10:15 The Things They Carried
Cole is back and so very thirsty, as are we, talking about Season 10, Episode 15 The Things They Carried. It is the unfortunate return of the Khan worm and so Liz quizzes Diana about happened way back in Season 6 of Supernatural.
Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:What's Cole so thirsty for?
Speaker B:A safe word.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Liz.
Speaker A:I swear we know what we're doing.
Speaker A:We've done this a few times now.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, so many times.
Speaker B:So this is a podcast where we talk about the television show Supernatural, which Diana has never seen and I have seen a million times.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:And then we talk about every episode and you share fun lore, facts, or different things.
Speaker A:End quiz.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, but first we talk about ourselves.
Speaker A:So, Liz, what have you been up to?
Speaker B:I am overestimating Texas weather because I have my windows open and the AC off and I'm starting to sweat because of this ring light.
Speaker B:And now I'm thinking that maybe I should have turned my air conditioner on.
Speaker B:But that's okay.
Speaker B:I'll just be sweaty, which is pretty normal for Texas.
Speaker B:And it's also making me think about yard work.
Speaker B:And like, should I, you know, should.
Speaker B:Is it time for me to invest in buying a lawnmower?
Speaker B:And then I found out that they make robot lawnmowers now.
Speaker B:And now I'm kind of into it, but I don't know how.
Speaker B:I just don't know if they would work at my property.
Speaker B:But for your yard with blades, which sounds like a very not great idea.
Speaker A:I mean, true, but when the robot.
Speaker B:Overlords take over, I don't know if they.
Speaker B:I want them to have self propelled blades.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So I don't know.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And some of them are.
Speaker B:Are a lot of money, and then some of them are a lot, a lot of money.
Speaker B:And I don't know which if it's worth a lot, a lot of money, or.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:So lawnmower shopping sucks.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:There's too.
Speaker B:There's too many choices today.
Speaker A:Way too.
Speaker B:With our timeline.
Speaker B:Luckily, you know, we're not going to have that problem soon.
Speaker B:We just won't be able to afford it at all.
Speaker B:So maybe I should buy the robot lawnmower now.
Speaker B:Maybe I should buy all the robot lawnmowers now.
Speaker A:Make an army.
Speaker B:Make an army of robot lawnmowers.
Speaker B:Why do all these lawnmowers have googly eyes on them?
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:My lawnmower is totally gonna have googly eyes.
Speaker B:You know, it should.
Speaker A:It should.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, so the thing is though, so I'm looking at.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:So today it's 73 degrees where I live, which for Texas is like the.
Speaker B:It's a holy grail of weather.
Speaker B:Like, it wasn't too windy.
Speaker B:It was just like.
Speaker B:It was a perfect fucking day.
Speaker B:But it happens like once a year.
Speaker B:So that makes you be like, I could have a weed eater.
Speaker B:I could have a lawn mower.
Speaker B:I could do all this stuff outside myself.
Speaker B:When like the 363 other days it's hot as Satan's balls and.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:Or zero degrees.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or just humid as.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:Or things are biting me.
Speaker B:Or there's, you know, snakes biting me.
Speaker B:Or there's just a lot of snakes biting you.
Speaker A:What is.
Speaker A:There's a lot of biting.
Speaker A:What is happening?
Speaker B:Well, that's just like what happens if the robot vacuum cleaner lawnmower like hits a snake.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I don't have an answer to that, so I cannot help you there.
Speaker B:So many questions.
Speaker A:That's a lot of questions.
Speaker B:Yeah, I saw like some of them have to be tethered, I think.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know if they're all.
Speaker A:Like tethered, but so they don't escape.
Speaker B:Well, they.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker B:It's like you train them.
Speaker B:Like you train the invisible fence maybe.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So you have like, I think you.
Speaker A:Put stakes out and then like a geofence.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then it learns like where those stakes are and then it's kind of knows to be tethered.
Speaker B:The really expensive ones.
Speaker B:Like we'll send people out to your house to do that.
Speaker B:And I can only imagine them coming out to my house and being like the leaving.
Speaker A:Like, nah, we're not doing this.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But unless, you know, if I get a.
Speaker B:Riding a lawnmower, I still have to consider like that hill that I had to consider with a robot lawnmower.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And it's so.
Speaker B:I don't know, it's not that big of a hill like, like mass wise, you know, but it's just a steep hill.
Speaker B:And so whatever you do has to like go up and get up and over that without killing someone or a dog.
Speaker B:You know, not rolling over would be the.
Speaker A:The good thing.
Speaker A:That's the goal.
Speaker B:But some of the riding lawnmowers seem very excessive.
Speaker B:Like, and I think that's a man thing maybe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We also teeter into tractor world.
Speaker B:But I kind of like the trap.
Speaker B:Like, I think there is a.
Speaker B:There's two sets of riding lumbers today.
Speaker B:This is what I know everyone comes to the Supernatural podcast to learn about.
Speaker B:So there is the one that looks kind of like the tractor, Right.
Speaker B:That, you know, Hank Hill would ride around on, that's got the little wheel and you put your beer on it and you do, you know, and then there's a one that has got like the two.
Speaker B:Like, it's got two handles, so, like, you're pushing it.
Speaker A:That's what the city guys.
Speaker A:That's what the guys do.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:Guys from that work from the city do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's zero turn ones, which supposedly, when you have like a.
Speaker B:A more rugged area like me, like, it's supposed to be a better thing, but I think they're excessive.
Speaker A:Oh, I've seen them.
Speaker A:They rock and roll on those gas line the other day, and it was a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah, I.
Speaker B:I did see somebody riding a John Deere down my street earlier today, and I almost stopped and I'm like, so how's that?
Speaker B:Do you like.
Speaker A:Can I have a review, please?
Speaker B:Do you work for the.
Speaker B:Are you working for the property?
Speaker B:Do you just like this.
Speaker B:You're a house owner.
Speaker B:Like, tell me, like, how did you choose your.
Speaker B:Your lawn mowing appliance?
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, also, I.
Speaker B:I've done cyber security for a lot of companies that make a lot of tractors and lawn things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So a lot of them I kind of don't trust to be robots.
Speaker A:Well, you don't buy the robot.
Speaker A:I mean, if you don't buy the robot kind, that.
Speaker A:That part doesn't really matter.
Speaker B:I mean, kind of.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Probably everything has a computer in it now.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:Probably everything is WI fi in it.
Speaker B:Even like that zero turn lawnmower.
Speaker B:It's got an access point on it.
Speaker A:My oven.
Speaker A:My oven doesn't need to be on the WI fi.
Speaker A:I stand by this.
Speaker B:Putin needs to tell you when your cookies are done.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Well, it was cold as here this past weekend, so I didn't do a whole.
Speaker B:I mean, it was.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, we got cold, but see, no, it was cold, but it was like, do stuff.
Speaker B:I got to work in a garage, so it was fine.
Speaker A:I just was like, gray, windy, big storms.
Speaker B:You could have worked in a garage.
Speaker A:I went to.
Speaker A:I went to an art show, though, an art fair.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker A:The house.
Speaker A:I got out of the house.
Speaker A:I saw.
Speaker A:I did see.
Speaker A:I saw one artist at a show, and then I saw a girl I know named Avra Boom, and she did an amazing show at the Kessler Theater.
Speaker A:And then I went to the Deep Ellum Arts Fair.
Speaker A:I did not go to another show.
Speaker A:I wanted to go to because it was cold.
Speaker A:But, yeah, that's my excitement.
Speaker A:Pretty laid back in my little world for right this minute.
Speaker A:I'm really busy, so I say that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't even know what you're.
Speaker A:I think you're lying, but it was just.
Speaker A:I didn't do all the things.
Speaker A:I just did some of the things.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:You tell yourself that.
Speaker B:You tell yourself you're laid back if that makes you feel better.
Speaker A:I went to the mall and walked around.
Speaker B:Yeah, you did do that.
Speaker A:That was kind of fun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But anyway, so let's talk about an episode well before.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So Supernatural News.
Speaker B:So in that world, Jared Padalecki and Genevieve are going to be hosting the.
Speaker B:Is it 20th?
Speaker B:And it's not 20th, it's 50th.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's an anniversary thing for Austin City Limits.
Speaker A:For acl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not for acl.
Speaker B:For Austin City Limits.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Those are two very different things.
Speaker A:TV show.
Speaker A:The show.
Speaker A:The show City Limits, not the festival.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:That'll be fun.
Speaker A:I think it's on pbs.
Speaker A:So you'll check your local listings and you should be able to watch that.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:If you'd like to do that.
Speaker B:If you have pbs, if you still.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:I do have PBS on some streaming apps.
Speaker A:I think we do, too.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker B:Well, I have one specifically in order, because I was trying to get the.
Speaker B:The one that.
Speaker B:The document.
Speaker B:The Finding your roots.
Speaker B:I wanted to watch that.
Speaker B:So I needed one PBS for that.
Speaker B:And then I was trying to watch some documentary for this.
Speaker B:For this podcast.
Speaker B:So I have PBS for something else.
Speaker B:But, yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right, so now we can talk about this episode.
Speaker B:Sorry, we forgot to talk about that last week.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this episode, the Things They Carried, which is a.
Speaker B:Comes from a collection of short stories of the same name by Tim O'Brien, which chronicle a platoon of American soldiers in the Vietnam War and based on O'Brien's own experience.
Speaker B:Experiences.
Speaker B:So some.
Speaker B:Some uplifting and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That this was season 10, episode 15.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:And we open with a very dramatic scene.
Speaker A:And I say that not like silly dramatic like, whoa, there's like water dripping.
Speaker A:We see some long hair and we know that we are in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and we zoom out to see a young woman hung upside down by her feet, struggling with tape on her mouth.
Speaker A:And a dude that looks like he's got, like, severe scarring of some kind on his skin walks in with a bucket, has a giant knife.
Speaker A:And as she struggles more and more, he crouches down, slits her throat, and drains her blood into the bucket.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But as she is struggling, she is doing the world's most awesome core workout.
Speaker B:You see, this girl is so badass.
Speaker B:Her obliques are going.
Speaker B:She is going, like, right to left, side to side.
Speaker B:As someone who hangs upside down a lot, I would tell you it's much harder to do the upside down than you think.
Speaker B:Think, like, she is just phenomenal.
Speaker B:And so even though, unfortunately, he slits her throat, like, she's still a badass.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And then he licks the blood wound on her neck.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was gross.
Speaker A:That is gross.
Speaker B:He's just lapping it up.
Speaker B:It's not great.
Speaker A:So we cut to the bunker, and we've got Sam trying to pretend he's not researching the mark of Cain, but he clearly is and trying to hide it from Dean.
Speaker B:He's, like, researching.
Speaker B:He's looking at an 18th century painting by Joseph Vergara.
Speaker B:Came and Abel.
Speaker B:Them just like, what you studying?
Speaker B:Like, the painting being like, what is the glue in here?
Speaker B:This is what I can learn.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, so Dean comes in and say, Sam slaps the laptop closed so fast that Dean assumes it's porn, right?
Speaker A:And Sam's like, no.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, it's fine.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:But either way, I found a case.
Speaker B:Oh, also, please don't jerk off where we eat.
Speaker B:He did say that.
Speaker A:He did say that.
Speaker A:I was skipping past.
Speaker B:No, you can't.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:But at least Dean has standards.
Speaker B:And Sam's just like, it's not foreign.
Speaker B:Dean's like, fine, it's erotica.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:So then Dean tells him all about.
Speaker A:The woman the army private's body found.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:Apparently, she was trained not only in krav maga, but also jiu jitsu, and was found with her organs drained and her bone marrow sucks.
Speaker B:Can you drain organs?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't feel like that's something you can do.
Speaker B:I feel like you can drain blood and you can take organs, but I don't feel like you can drain an organ.
Speaker B:Like, I don't think you can't drain.
Speaker A:My liver, but you can drain your heart.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, you're still draining the blood.
Speaker B:You're not.
Speaker B:And then you're just squeezing the heart.
Speaker B:I mean, but, like, can you drain the blood?
Speaker A:You really want what's in the stomach?
Speaker A:What about the stomach and the intestine?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker A:If you really want to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's weird.
Speaker B:This is a bad choice of words.
Speaker B:So they're like, well, is it a rougarou?
Speaker B:But it's not a rougarou.
Speaker A:Is it a God?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Let's, like, pretend to be feds.
Speaker B:That sounds fun.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But Sam is not.
Speaker A:He's like.
Speaker A:Sam's, like, fine.
Speaker A:Like, he is not excited, and he's.
Speaker B:Hipping and hawing right.
Speaker B:Like, he doesn't want to, like, go.
Speaker B:He's trying to find a reason to.
Speaker B:Maybe he just wants to nest, you know, sometimes.
Speaker B:You know, he just.
Speaker B:He's been on the road a lot, and he wants to be in the bunker, you know, he wants some time, I guess.
Speaker A:So they get on the road either way and drive through the night.
Speaker A:And Sam is still in the car looking back at that site and trying to research Mark of Kane.
Speaker A:And Dean calls him out and he's like, look, we have checked every website twice at this point, and you're still.
Speaker B:Not looking at porn.
Speaker B:Why would Sam be looking at porn in the car also on your phone?
Speaker B:I think people who look at porn.
Speaker B:Porno.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No judgment, but a little judgment.
Speaker B:If you look at porn on your phone, I think it's a little weird, but you mean.
Speaker B:It's each his own.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But sitting in the front next to.
Speaker B:Your brother, and then I'm gonna judge the out of.
Speaker B:You don't look at porn while you're sitting in the car next to your brother.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And unless this is like a slash fiction thing that's happening.
Speaker B:Okay, so moving on.
Speaker B:So Dean is just going really dark, Right?
Speaker A:Well, but I think he also is trying to, like, he's.
Speaker A:He's sharing with Sam how he is coping with the situation.
Speaker A:He's like, look, with every case we reach.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But they also know his situation probably may not have a solution.
Speaker A:So he's figured out that how he wants to cope with it for the now.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:It doesn't bother me as much.
Speaker A:It's a little.
Speaker A:It's dark.
Speaker A:But I also feel like it's.
Speaker A:It's proactive in a way.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:Knows what he wants to do is to work cases.
Speaker A:He's like, if.
Speaker A:When we.
Speaker A:When we face the truth with a case, even if we don't like it.
Speaker A:We know what has to happen.
Speaker A:We saw what happened to Kane.
Speaker A:Don't like that either, but have to move forward.
Speaker A:I'm going to do what I do and what I like to do for as long as I can.
Speaker A:And I need you with me.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker B:But also, I feel like the.
Speaker B:The cane comparison looks very different because Kane was a demon or someone who became a demon, but then he also was fine eating his kale and living.
Speaker A:His thing, so maybe away from people.
Speaker B:He was away from people.
Speaker B:But, I mean, that's not a bad life to live.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, you can kind of just hang out in the bunker, Dean.
Speaker B:You know, you've got research to do there, like make a podcast.
Speaker B:So they go like they.
Speaker B:So they pull into Fayetteville, right?
Speaker B:And because it's Fayetteville, there are soldiers every.
Speaker A:Everywhere, there's a lot of random soldiers just wandering.
Speaker B:Just wander around, just like, this is what we do.
Speaker A:So they go into city hall, which is where the sheriff's office is, and interrupt a sheriff's birthday party with a cake that was baked by the sheriff's partner.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker B:The cake looks really good.
Speaker B:And the sheriffs assume they are feds with their fed stitch.
Speaker B:At least that is what Dean assumes.
Speaker B:And Sam tells them they're there for Private Jackie.
Speaker B:And I don't know why.
Speaker B:That just sounds like a TV show to me.
Speaker B:So we're there for Private Jackie, and the sheriff's like, oh, no, we.
Speaker B:We solved that one.
Speaker B:We're good.
Speaker B:We don't need to be here.
Speaker A:Yeah, because have cake.
Speaker A:Because Rick Willis's fingerprints and his dog tags were found all over the place at where her body was, but he's not in custody because he drank a boatload of gasoline and himself on fire.
Speaker B:This is fine.
Speaker B:This is literally the meme, right?
Speaker B:Like, instead of, like a dumpster on fire, it's Rick.
Speaker B:And everyone's just like, this is fine.
Speaker B:No one's going to.
Speaker B:To do anything else.
Speaker B:Problem solved.
Speaker B:Would you like some cake?
Speaker B:And then Sam just keeps keeping Dean from eating the cake, and it's just mean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Just let Dean have the cake.
Speaker A:Let him have a piece of cake.
Speaker A:Very rude.
Speaker A:Very rude, Sam.
Speaker A:And why are you not participating in the birthday celebration?
Speaker A:Because now you just look like jerks.
Speaker B:You look like dicks.
Speaker B:You should be nice.
Speaker B:You get.
Speaker B:You catch more flies with honey.
Speaker B:And they will give you more information and more cake.
Speaker B:So, once again, this is probably why the AI algorithm thinks this is a podcast about cake.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Well, but either way, the.
Speaker A:The sheriff's like, well, it's a military town.
Speaker A:There's a lot of suicides.
Speaker A:And, like, has written off the suicide of Rick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's also depressing.
Speaker B:So we leave.
Speaker A:There's no bite.
Speaker A:They verify there's no bite marks on the body because the.
Speaker A:She was killed with a bowie knife.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So nothing was gnawing on her.
Speaker B:So we can rule out Rougarou.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And I do think it's.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I hate to laugh at it, but I do think it's entertaining as they walk out that it's how bonkers it is to Molotov cocktail yourself.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So Dean thinks that self Molotoving is demon possession.
Speaker B:Bonkers.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Which tracks.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, I think that does.
Speaker B:Sound like something that somebody possessed by a demon would do.
Speaker B:I don't think it sounds like somebody not.
Speaker B:Not possessed by a demon.
Speaker B:You know, like, I don't think a normal person likes to swallow gasoline and set themselves on fire.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:So they're gonna go talk to the wife.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The widow.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Who has a young baby.
Speaker B:Young, young baby.
Speaker A:And she's obviously.
Speaker A:Beth is very sad, obviously.
Speaker A:And insists that Rick was really kind, but the deployment changed him.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, it's just.
Speaker A:You know, she's just not.
Speaker A:She doesn't want to sit in there and, like, deny.
Speaker A:But also, you can tell that she's like, not.
Speaker A:Like, she knows something was wrong.
Speaker A:But Sam has asking about mood swings.
Speaker A:Dean's asking about smells.
Speaker A:And she's like, no, none of that.
Speaker A:But he was very, very, very thirsty.
Speaker B:Thirsty for dad.
Speaker B:Ass.
Speaker B:No, that's not what he was.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So they're like, yeah, like, how thirsty?
Speaker B:He is so thirsty that she caught him drinking bath water.
Speaker B:And his skin was so dry that it bled and immediately went and put lotion on.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:The skin does make you want to hydrate.
Speaker B:This episode makes you.
Speaker B:The skin.
Speaker B:This episode makes you want to hydrate.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And she's like, I took him to the VA and that went like you would think it would let go.
Speaker A:They put him on a list.
Speaker A:Gosh.
Speaker A:That was just.
Speaker A:There's a couple, like, really, really sad, like, truths in this one where they're like, oh, it's a military town.
Speaker A:Thus the suicides.
Speaker A:Oh, I took him to the doctor to get that dry skin checked out.
Speaker A:That was obviously, like, cracking and bleeding.
Speaker A:And he was desperately drinking water from a hose.
Speaker A:But they put him on a list anyways, so but she was like.
Speaker A:She just kind of assumed that this was, like, some really, really, really severe PTSD kind of situation.
Speaker B:I mean, maybe I'd be like, yeah, he came from the sandbox.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:But she didn't know exactly where.
Speaker B:She didn't know exactly where because it was classified.
Speaker B:And they wouldn't let the wives in on it because that is what classified means, as we will learn later during this episode.
Speaker B:And maybe some other, like, people don't understand what that means.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Weird.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But one other thing before they go, she ran into her friend Gemma, who is married to Kit Burson.
Speaker B:He was also on rips.
Speaker B:I don't have Rick's team.
Speaker A:And that's not the Rick.
Speaker A:That's what she said.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:She says, rick's team.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And then I was like that, okay, fine.
Speaker B:So she called it that.
Speaker B:We called him whatever.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But she was like, kit came back different.
Speaker B:So this is also happening.
Speaker A:Might be the same thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So obviously, where Sam and Dean gonna go next to Gemmas.
Speaker A:And we see a lot of photos of Kit in his military uniform where he is not only wearing an infantry rope on his shoulder as an army soldier, but also has a beard that the infantry would not typically allow.
Speaker A:That's what I got.
Speaker B:So, anyhow, just saying, just thanks to you.
Speaker B:So Kit's wife, though, is just kind of first playing it all off, right?
Speaker B:And just like, no, no, things are fine.
Speaker B:No, he's fine.
Speaker A:He just takes a minute to get back to himself after deployment.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:Everything's fine.
Speaker A:We're just all hanging in.
Speaker A:But he went out last night, and he should.
Speaker A:He should be home soon.
Speaker A:And they're like, wait, so.
Speaker A:So he didn't come home?
Speaker B:So your husband went out and didn't come home?
Speaker B:But that's.
Speaker B:That's cool, right?
Speaker A:And they're like, so is he.
Speaker A:Has he been thirsty?
Speaker A:And she's like, how did you know?
Speaker B:Drink?
Speaker B:Yeah, he's been drink out of the dog bowl Thursday.
Speaker B:Which I thought was a really good descriptor.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:It is very good.
Speaker A:It's a solid descriptor.
Speaker A:You know what that means?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:So they go outside and they're.
Speaker A:And as they're leaving cold.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Someone's leaving on the car, there's cold, and he's back.
Speaker A:Ends up.
Speaker A:Cole is best friends with Kit because.
Speaker B:All military people know each other.
Speaker A:And they kind of.
Speaker A:They kind of do.
Speaker A:A lot of them do.
Speaker A:And he's concerned.
Speaker A:Gemma called him.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker B:That yeah.
Speaker B:And he's.
Speaker B:He's trying to tell them that he's known Kit forever and he's a good man.
Speaker B:And they're.
Speaker B:But they're there to work a case and the case is probably Kit.
Speaker A:And he's like, well, now I'm concerned and I, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker A:I'm gonna work it with you.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with you.
Speaker A:That's all there is to it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And first off, like during the scene, it's really great because you have baby with Dean on one side of the car and Sam, like on the passenger side.
Speaker B:And then Cole is next to Sam.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So they had to distance like Cole like far back because Padalecki is so fucking tall.
Speaker B:And you know that he's just a normal sized human being, but just being next to either the two of them, they're like, okay, you need to stand over here.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it looks.
Speaker B:It looks really great anyways.
Speaker B:But also.
Speaker B:So he wants to help them because he has friends and military intelligence who will clearly don't care about sharing classified intel.
Speaker B:They just said this was fucking classified.
Speaker B:He was like, yeah, I've got friends in military intel.
Speaker B:Intelligence will just tell me what the happened in Iraq.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker A:Well, we don't even know it's Iraq yet, but yeah, we're just gonna go.
Speaker B:Into our Discord Channel or whatever chat group we're playing in our Call of Duty.
Speaker B:It's probably.
Speaker B:There's probably some dude plays Call of Duty with.
Speaker B:He's gonna call and they're just like shooting things up.
Speaker B:He's like, hey, bro.
Speaker B:So like, you're the guy, Kit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you were like, what happened to him?
Speaker B:Like, what you got in these?
Speaker B:Oh, dog.
Speaker B:I got this video.
Speaker B:Let me drop it in your email.
Speaker A:But Cole really just wants to make sure that Sam and Dean don't kill Kit.
Speaker A:That's his goal.
Speaker A:Don't kill Kit.
Speaker B:Which I think is a very reasonable goal.
Speaker B:And he like.
Speaker A:Like he is a war hero and my best friend.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah, I agree.
Speaker A:We don't really want to kill him either.
Speaker A:So I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker A:We'll figure it out.
Speaker B:Yeah, but they're also just not that reassuring that they're like.
Speaker B:Because like, we're like, we're not not gonna kill him.
Speaker A:Like, he might not be Kit any.
Speaker B:You just have to prepare yourself that we are likely going to shoot your friend.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So then we go for that to.
Speaker A:The Gas and Sip where we Find out why they're gonna have to kill Kit.
Speaker A:And Kit looks rough and he's slamming bottles of water.
Speaker A:Now I am gonna say this store clerk is a little aggressive.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The guy's like drinking a bottle.
Speaker B:He gonna come in and start cheating.
Speaker A:Might still pay.
Speaker A:Like you haven't even given him a chance.
Speaker A:Not like out.
Speaker A:He might like in this, like, like.
Speaker B:You know, hoovering ho hos.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He is like drinking water and looks like my first question would be, are you okay, sir?
Speaker B:Not immediately.
Speaker B:Just like, what the.
Speaker A:And then you can't drink that water without paying for it first.
Speaker A:Like he hasn't even tried to leave.
Speaker B:And then smashing this, escalating it so fast by smashing the water bottle out of his mouth.
Speaker B:Like, what the.
Speaker B:The are you doing, bro?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Well, but then kid does take it next level because I am going to.
Speaker B:Say.
Speaker A:Getting a water bottle smashed out of your hand to taking a wine bottle, breaking it on the shelf and prepping to stab the fucking clerk.
Speaker A:We have just.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that he didn't.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He asked.
Speaker B:He also took it too far.
Speaker B:However, I don't think the appropriate.
Speaker B:I'm going to smash this out of your hand is I just let the man drink the water.
Speaker B:Anyways.
Speaker B:So it was.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:The scene is almost bizarre.
Speaker B:Well, and then the best thing is like also Mark, the other employee is just standing there with his mouth open.
Speaker B:Like, just like.
Speaker B:He's just like, what the.
Speaker B:Like I don't get.
Speaker A:I get paid.
Speaker A:As his co worker bleeds out in the water cooler.
Speaker B:I get paid $5 an hour.
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker B:India.
Speaker B:So like now his friend, like coworker, manager is just like gushing blood all over the cooler.
Speaker B:And Kit's really interested in this now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Kit's gonna start licking the blood off the floor.
Speaker B:Gross.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he's like Mark finally does something and calls the cops.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But we cut to Sammy's Highway Cafe.
Speaker A:The best gourmet burger entire highway in these in the usa.
Speaker B:I would go to Sammy's.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker B:I would eat there.
Speaker B:I would stop there at evening Sammy's.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:It's a cute little food trailer with like a cute little setup.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, it does look adorbs.
Speaker A:So Sam, Dean and Cole are eating Dean.
Speaker A:It has been researching but does not found any signs of demons in the area.
Speaker A:So Cole's like, cool, cool.
Speaker A:Maybe it's not a case at all.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:But hey, I've got this encrypted email.
Speaker A:From my to my.
Speaker A:To my civilian email address.
Speaker B:To my civilian email address, which is also from his friend at the mi.
Speaker B:Which is not a thing that exists.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:And then his friend is just like, oh, yo, here's some.
Speaker B:This mission in Iraq.
Speaker B:Peace.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They went to go on this mission in Iraq to rescue a POW at a cemetery.
Speaker B:And clearly, like, this is not.
Speaker B:Like, this is.
Speaker B:This is not stuff you should be sending in an email to your buddy.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:And it has footage of them in these.
Speaker A:The cemetery, prison.
Speaker A:Because apparently they were hiding prisons and cemeteries.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:So they say in Iraq.
Speaker B:They said they say some of those things here, but, you know, so in Iraq, they were using cemeteries as prisoners persons, so it's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But they also like the.
Speaker B:The videos.
Speaker B:All night vision, there's a firefight.
Speaker B:And so the video is very disturbing.
Speaker A:And they find this pow, and then the POW attacks both of them at.
Speaker B:The camera like a rabid goat.
Speaker B:And it's just terrifying, and I don't like it.
Speaker A:And the video ends.
Speaker A:And apparently the report is that he was, quote, shot by guards and the mission failed.
Speaker A:Yeah, but that also doesn't make sense.
Speaker A:But whatever.
Speaker A:So as the.
Speaker A:After they watch that, Sam's phone pings because he set it up to get local alerts.
Speaker A:And Cole says, is it bad?
Speaker A:And Sam says, it's bloody.
Speaker A:Which now I want to know what that alert is and how Sam knew it was bloody.
Speaker A:Alert already.
Speaker B:That's what the alert said.
Speaker B:It just said bloody.
Speaker B:Something bloody has happened.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:Or it's a Brit.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, it could be like.
Speaker B: So even though this was: Speaker B:Yeah, I have an app that has police scanners on it that you can just tell it.
Speaker B:Like, I want to listen to the Hays county emergency, like, police scanner.
Speaker B:And just like, you don't.
Speaker B:You're passionate dispatch.
Speaker B:But you.
Speaker B:You hear what's going on here.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But yeah, so conceivably is something he could have done.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I don't think he would say it's bloody, but maybe it did.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So they go to the gas and sip and.
Speaker A:Yeah, and this is my thing.
Speaker B:Cole was surprised that his friend licked blood off his floor.
Speaker B:And I'm just saying, if you have really been friends with this dude as long as you say you have, and you're both like, military brats, like, you have seen your friend do worse than lick blood off a floor.
Speaker A:I mean, maybe.
Speaker B:I'm the same.
Speaker B:I ride or die.
Speaker B:I see him.
Speaker B:I've seen him do worse than, like, blood off the floor.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, like, you know, like.
Speaker B:So anyhow, so the soda jockey is with Dean.
Speaker B:Calls the guy who works in the gas and Sip.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:That is an interesting title.
Speaker B:And I kind of like it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:It goes back to, like, old fountain soda.
Speaker B:Guys like soap, Jackie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Makes me want to ice cream Flip flop.
Speaker A:Well, our.
Speaker A:Obviously, our guy's dead, and they are just.
Speaker A:They're discussing.
Speaker A:But Cole's phone rings, and it is Gemma.
Speaker A:And she is very, very concerned that whatever happened at Gaston Sip might involve Kit.
Speaker A:Which is a weird thing to assume, but also, you must know something.
Speaker A:But her.
Speaker B:I mean, she was like, her dude's gone psych.
Speaker A:And like she said, something's gone not right.
Speaker A:And he's not in the right mind.
Speaker A:You need to save him.
Speaker B:But it's also kind of that sometimes, you know, someone gets described on the news and you're like, oh, no, like.
Speaker B:Like this.
Speaker B:When you do realize that someone on the news is someone you know, like, oh, that person who drove that car into that house.
Speaker B:Oh, Ernest, what did you do?
Speaker B:You know when that.
Speaker B:That happens sometimes.
Speaker B:That's saying I speak from.
Speaker B:Anyways, so.
Speaker B:Well, Gemma wants him to save Cole, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's like, I keep getting.
Speaker B:I kept writing Cole.
Speaker A:Gemma wants Cole to save Kit and says, by the way, when he want to be alone.
Speaker A:So I'm taking it up to his dad's cabin up north.
Speaker A:So Kell's like, all right, Sam and Dean, what's your plan?
Speaker A:This needs.
Speaker A:It's not a bullet or a knife.
Speaker A:My friend needs help.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, well, well.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, is he a monster?
Speaker A:I'm gonna have to put him down.
Speaker A:That's just the job.
Speaker B:You Winchesters, you know that's not the job.
Speaker B:You know, he's a human being.
Speaker B:You haven't even seen him.
Speaker B:And I just want to.
Speaker B:You shake.
Speaker B:You Winchesters, you.
Speaker A:But it was a trap.
Speaker A:I know it was a trap.
Speaker A:Because they wanted Cole to bail so they could follow him to go find Kit, which they do.
Speaker A:They drop him off.
Speaker A:He pretends to go into the house at Jama's.
Speaker A:He doesn't.
Speaker A:He gets in the Jeep, drives away.
Speaker A:And Sam and Dean have hit around the corner, and they follow him to the cabin.
Speaker A:I don't know why.
Speaker A:I just, like, I knew.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker B:You can have a duty do there if you want.
Speaker A:I felt like I needed that.
Speaker A:So they get.
Speaker A:He gets the cabin.
Speaker A:Cole goes in.
Speaker A:It looks super quiet.
Speaker A:And Sam and Dean are there, too, but Cole is, like, trying to call out to kid and that, hey, there's people looking for you.
Speaker A:And there's a trail of dead mice and rats and blood on the floor, and it doesn't look good.
Speaker B:Hey, maybe that's what's happening at my mom's house.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then Cole's like, hey, this is bad.
Speaker A:It's either me or them, though.
Speaker A:And kids coughing, and he looks terrible.
Speaker A:And he says, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I can't stop.
Speaker A:And then he tackles Cole, and he's gonna vomit a worm into Cole's mouth.
Speaker A:But Sam and Dean have machetes, and they're there.
Speaker B:Here.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's still really gross.
Speaker B:There's a worm.
Speaker B:Worm coming out.
Speaker A:He's gonna vomit a worm into Cole's mouth.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:It was so gross.
Speaker A:I had to pause, rewind, like, four times and made babe watch it.
Speaker B:I was like, you made him watch it?
Speaker B:That's so amazing.
Speaker A:Gross.
Speaker B:So gross.
Speaker B:Especially because it's in the mouth.
Speaker B:Like, I think it's worse because it's, like, coming out of the throat.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So one of the worms get killed.
Speaker B:But one.
Speaker A:But one goes in Cole's mouth.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And Kit runs away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Cole's got a worm in him, kid escapes.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, hey, you know, Cole, you just need to stay calm.
Speaker A:We're gonna get it out of you.
Speaker A:And Cole's like, I can feel it moving.
Speaker A:And I'm like, even worse.
Speaker B:It is worse.
Speaker B:It's so much worse.
Speaker B:So I would just cut my stomach open and take it out.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Why don't they do that?
Speaker B:Why don't they heim.
Speaker B:Like it?
Speaker B:Heimlich.
Speaker A:Why don't they hide?
Speaker B:How are they Heimlich him?
Speaker A:I don't like Heimlich it.
Speaker A:Or, like, do a little, like, extraction surgery or can you, like, drinkable?
Speaker A:Remember, like, when they would, like, give people a whole lot of charcoal to make them, like.
Speaker B:Or get feather down his throat.
Speaker B:Like, make him throw up.
Speaker B:Take some ipecac.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Like something, like, make you.
Speaker A:Can I go get my stomach pumped?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think there's a lot of options we have not considered here to get things out of.
Speaker B:Have something that's inside of you.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So they're still gagging on that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And Dean calls out Cole for being a dumbass, for going on this mission on his own.
Speaker A:But Cole's like, well, it's better than Letting machete brothers cut my.
Speaker A:Cut his head off.
Speaker A:So anyways, Dean's like, well, now you're choking on a Kong worm.
Speaker B:A con worm.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Or it's freakish cousins, and he's like.
Speaker B:Cole's like, what?
Speaker B:You know this.
Speaker B:You know how to kill it.
Speaker B:And, like, well, you can headshot the person it's in.
Speaker B:So the worms crawls out.
Speaker B:We can stomp it.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker B:Electrocution.
Speaker B:Worked last time.
Speaker B:So last time we talked about this.
Speaker B:We first met the con worm in season six, episode 16.
Speaker B: ich we talked about in May of: Speaker B: can you remember from May of: Speaker B:Let's find out, shall we?
Speaker B:All right, number one, what or who created the original con worm?
Speaker A:Oh, I feel like I can remember.
Speaker A:What I can.
Speaker B:Here's a hint.
Speaker B:Was created after they escaped from Purgatory.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it was Leviathan.
Speaker B:No, it was Eve.
Speaker A:Eve, Damn it.
Speaker B:The mother of Leviathan.
Speaker B:The mother of.
Speaker A:Mother of monsters.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker B:All right, number two.
Speaker B:Besides Sam and Dean, there is another hunter pair stuck with him in the cannery.
Speaker B:What hunter duo was.
Speaker B:Was.
Speaker B:There.
Speaker A:Was.
Speaker A:There was a chick.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:No chicks.
Speaker B:No, it was Bobby and Rufus.
Speaker B:It was so far from being Rufus.
Speaker A:Never mind.
Speaker A:I thought I was just envisioning Rufus, too, but I was trying to think.
Speaker A:I thought for some reason, I was gonna go to Joe anyways.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Supposed to.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be really bad.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is a bad one.
Speaker A:I can remember this episode.
Speaker A:I knew you were gonna do this.
Speaker B:You never.
Speaker B:You know, you just never check and, you know, I keep notes.
Speaker B:All right, number three.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Number three.
Speaker B:I told you about the world's most metal cryptid.
Speaker B:It is called the Mongolian.
Speaker B:What works Worm.
Speaker A:Mongolian.
Speaker A:Oh, I know what you're talking about, too.
Speaker A:I don't remember.
Speaker A:A blood worm, death worm.
Speaker B:The Mongolian death worm.
Speaker B:All right, so the question about the Mongolian death worm.
Speaker B:Does it, A, spit venom, B, have spikes on both ends, C, send electric shocks, or D, all of the above.
Speaker A:All the above.
Speaker B:That is correct.
Speaker B:You've got one.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker B:Number five.
Speaker B:During this episode, Sam showed you can kill the con worm by shooting the host in the head.
Speaker B:When he shot which family member.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:That was a female, right?
Speaker A:That was why it threw me off.
Speaker B:No, it was Samuel.
Speaker A:Samuel in that episode, or no, no, no, no chicks.
Speaker B:There are no.
Speaker B:No women at all, as far as I know.
Speaker B:In this episode.
Speaker A:Damn, My brain is doing something.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, number six.
Speaker B:Rufus dies in this episode how?
Speaker B:Dean shoots him, Samuel shoots him, Sam stabs him, or Bobby St.
Speaker A:Bobby stabbed him.
Speaker B:That's correct.
Speaker B:Bobby stabbed Rufus while he was possessed by the con worm.
Speaker B:Number seven during this episode was the last question.
Speaker B:I also told you about booby traps.
Speaker B:What theoretically, are booby traps named after?
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:Was.
Speaker A:I know it.
Speaker A:I just can't.
Speaker A:I got nothing today.
Speaker A:My brain's messed.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:So it was because sailors use TR to try and catch the booby bird.
Speaker B:A bird that was named that because it is so dumb.
Speaker B:The boobies.
Speaker A:Not my day for quizzes.
Speaker B:It is not.
Speaker B:It is not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now you had to go back and it was like.
Speaker B:Your punishment is you have to go watch that episode.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna watch the episode again.
Speaker B:It's very traumatic.
Speaker B:It's very traumatizing.
Speaker A:That's why I didn't watch it again.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So Cole, it wants to be electrocuted.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so Sam's gonna go fucking look for Kit while Dean sits and electrocutes Cole.
Speaker A:This seems like a bad plan, but that's just me.
Speaker A:So either way, Dean's like, it's gonna hurt.
Speaker A:And Cole's like, I've got a wife or kid and upside down mortgage.
Speaker A:Whatever it takes.
Speaker A:Dino.
Speaker A:Because he likes to call them nicknames.
Speaker A:This whole episode, it really gets into Dino.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they have, well, two car batteries.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah, last time there was mind control components.
Speaker A:At least we don't have to worry about that.
Speaker A:But here we go.
Speaker A:And Cole wants to pontificate.
Speaker A:He's like, so y'all just run around saving people from things that they can't even imagine.
Speaker A:And nobody notices that you do this.
Speaker A:And he's like, at least, you know, if.
Speaker A:At least we get an award or medal in the army.
Speaker A:Dean's like, yeah, no, that's just what we do.
Speaker A:That's what we do.
Speaker A:Time to shock the out of you, Cole.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So he's got these jumper cables and it's kind of hot when he sparks them together.
Speaker B:I don't know what's wrong with me, but it just kind of like.
Speaker B:I don't know, like, it's.
Speaker B:This is sexy.
Speaker B:So then, like, Cole then sets himself back in his chair with spoon in his mouth.
Speaker B:And then Dean just goes to town.
Speaker B:And then you could see Uncle's arm in the World's Worst Curly Cues.
Speaker A:So bad.
Speaker B:Terrible script.
Speaker B:That leg is on the COVID of some 5, 8 year old girl's notebook.
Speaker B:Bad.
Speaker B:What is this script?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:It says, strength to change.
Speaker A:That's not a good tattoo.
Speaker B:No, this isn't.
Speaker B:But you can see it while he's getting zapped.
Speaker B:It is, like, zap him on that tattoo so we can get rid of it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe he'll accidentally like it up.
Speaker B:Like, just burn.
Speaker B:Like, brand him there.
Speaker B:Burn that off.
Speaker B:Like, transfer the mark of Cane to Cole so he can get a fucking tattoo.
Speaker A:New tattoo removal methods.
Speaker A:Mark of Kane Transfer So bad.
Speaker A:Well, there's no worm coming out of Cole's ears.
Speaker A:So they try again and they go longer.
Speaker B:I want to ride that lightning.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:And Cole's like, no, keep going.
Speaker A:So they do it again.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, this might kill you, but I'm gonna do it anyways.
Speaker A:But I'm not gonna watch, so I'm not gonna be able to tell when you.
Speaker B:It's better that way for me.
Speaker A:He's like, this is too hard to watch.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna watch.
Speaker A:Hope you don't die.
Speaker A:It's so ridiculous, right?
Speaker A:He has, like, beat on his chest to make him recover.
Speaker A:And Cole's like, again.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, absolutely not.
Speaker A:Absolutely not.
Speaker B:So it's gotta smell real bad, too, because he's, like, doing it on his arm.
Speaker B:So that had to be, like, all the armhole burning off smell.
Speaker A:Oh, well, Dean tells.
Speaker A:Calls Sam and said the worm is a no show.
Speaker A:Sparky struck out.
Speaker B:So maybe is like another species, right?
Speaker B:So maybe it's not exactly the same.
Speaker B:So, like, cool.
Speaker B:Maybe there's more than one.
Speaker B:Kind of these disgusting worms that can just, like, get in people and do different things.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker B:I love this.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So for some reason, Sam is going to kits just in case he shows up there.
Speaker A:And Cole is like, so this is what's.
Speaker A:What being in over your head.
Speaker A:Looks like I'm thirsty already.
Speaker A:So he's like, I want water, and then I want blood.
Speaker A:And I don't know.
Speaker A:And they're like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker A:Maybe if you dry out, you can create a hostile environment for this parasite.
Speaker A:Well, more than you already are.
Speaker B:Environment.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But yeah, okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So we make a hostile environment, and the world will want to go.
Speaker B:So let's go to rapid dehydration.
Speaker A:Big fan.
Speaker A:It was good dialogue.
Speaker A:I was amused.
Speaker A:And so they build.
Speaker A:They decided to make a sweat lodge in the cabin.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And then we go to Gemma's.
Speaker B:And Gemma's following flowers.
Speaker B:And it's not like somebody left her, like, pretty flowers.
Speaker B:Like, no, it's because Kit dumped them out to get to the water in the bottom of the vase because he couldn't get to the sink.
Speaker A:It's so weird.
Speaker A:Like, the sink was right there.
Speaker A:You had to walk past the sink.
Speaker B:You had.
Speaker A:Okay, past the sink.
Speaker A:And he looks terrible.
Speaker A:He's not lotion.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He needs some moisturizer.
Speaker B:And Gemma is just like, hey, bud, baby, like, let's fix you.
Speaker A:What you doing?
Speaker A:Also, this episode was really funny because I did definitely see a sticker this weekend at.
Speaker A:On the bathroom at three Links that said, quote, drink your water.
Speaker A:You dehydrated.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker A:Appropriate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's like, we're gonna fix this.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But then Kit grabs her by the throat.
Speaker A:That's not good.
Speaker B:It's not good.
Speaker A:And he says, I can't stop again.
Speaker A:And he tries to put a worm in her throat, but Sam's there now.
Speaker A:And he breaks the vase.
Speaker A:On kids.
Speaker B:Well, and one thing too, like, during, like, the worm to worm thing that's happening here, like.
Speaker B:So then are they trying to make.
Speaker B:Is it another worm that they're trying to add more worms or they, like.
Speaker B:Is that the one transferring it or.
Speaker A:Is it spreading it?
Speaker B:Because the other.
Speaker B:The first con worm was a transfer worm.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But, like, when they're out, when Cole got his down his throat, there was two worms, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think it's a spread worm, not a transfer.
Speaker B:Yeah, I like.
Speaker B:I like a very scientific classification of these have Transformers versus spread worm.
Speaker B:So we go back to the cabin, and the sauna is happening.
Speaker B:It looks still.
Speaker A:He is.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's.
Speaker A:Sam's still trying to talk.
Speaker A:Like, Sam's talking to Dean on the phone, and Kit is tied up.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, look, there's only one way to end it.
Speaker B:He seems very eager to shoot him in the head.
Speaker B:And I feel like there's more than one way to end this as we're proving, like, with the.
Speaker B:The sweatshot thing.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Got a plan?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so it's just super weird.
Speaker A:And then Sam is trying to explain to Gemma that something happened on the deployment to Kit and there is now something inside Kit that has made him a monster and has changed him.
Speaker A:And Gemma's like, who the are you?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, who are you?
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker B:Why are you here?
Speaker A:What are you talking.
Speaker A:Talking about?
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So then we go back to this, like, awesome sweat lodge that I think, like, people would pay a lot of money to go to.
Speaker A:A lot of money.
Speaker A:And Cole's skin looks like.
Speaker A:And Dean is just sipping a bottle of water, which just seems Rude.
Speaker B:Cole's also been eye.
Speaker B:Like, he starts eye that water bottle, and it becomes his new, like, thing.
Speaker A:But, like, why would you like Dean?
Speaker B:Well, at least he didn't have, like, a Stanley cup up.
Speaker A:But still, like, come on now, the.
Speaker B:Straw, like, just sip.
Speaker A:Can you, like, just turn around and take a little sip and, like, put it away so it's not, like, visible?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:He's like, watch my.
Speaker B:Watch me drink my water.
Speaker B:And then Cole's like, is this what happens?
Speaker B:Like, what my dad felt like when he turned.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know what your dad felt like.
Speaker A:He's like, he wasn't my dad anymore.
Speaker A:It's very sad.
Speaker A:He's like, if I go down the same road, do me into.
Speaker B:Do that to me, Dean.
Speaker B:And Dean will not give it to you.
Speaker B:But you're going to.
Speaker B:To fight.
Speaker B:And you're gonna fight harder than you ever have.
Speaker B:Now watch me drink this water.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Dean wants him to fight so hard, and then.
Speaker B:Dina, will you do me the honor of tying me to this chair?
Speaker B:Yes, please.
Speaker B:That's not what's happening here.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker A:Because as soon as Dean goes to time to the chair, he.
Speaker B:Cole loves water so much.
Speaker A:Cole hits the bottle of water, hits Dean, and goes for the bottle of water.
Speaker A:Water.
Speaker B:And Dean's gun.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:He went for water.
Speaker B:Why did.
Speaker B:Why are.
Speaker B:You have a gun out?
Speaker A:You know why.
Speaker B:It's too far.
Speaker B:It's too far.
Speaker B:He just went for some water.
Speaker B:You don't need to shoot him.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, that's the whole.
Speaker A:That's the worm talking, but.
Speaker A:That's the worm talking, but you can't, like, throw.
Speaker B:The worm's not gonna come out because you have a gun on it.
Speaker B:It's not afraid of your gun.
Speaker A:It might.
Speaker A:Might try to get in Dean next, so.
Speaker A:And Dean's trying to talk Cole down, though, and Cole's like, nah.
Speaker A:Because all I can think is I want to slice open your wrists and drink you like a fountain baby.
Speaker B:What's that safe word again?
Speaker B:Am I a monster?
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker B:So then they go to Gemma's, and you're like, you're a hunter and whatnot now.
Speaker A:What's up with Kit?
Speaker A:Wtf.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't care what you say he is.
Speaker A:But in the meantime, kids escaped, so it doesn't really matter, and the power goes out, which is.
Speaker A:There's weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:How does that happen?
Speaker B:He cuts the power like he knows where the breaker box is.
Speaker B:And somewhere in his mind, instead of.
Speaker A:Drinking water, he went off.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Yes, instead of drinking Water.
Speaker B:He went to go cut the breaker.
Speaker B:And they also flashed on something that looks kind of like a stripper pole.
Speaker B:And it was like.
Speaker B:Is there a super pole in their house?
Speaker A:No, it's what they were tied to.
Speaker A:It's a really weird, like, hole.
Speaker A:It's like a super, like, 70s, like, support beam in the kitchen, I think, which doesn't match the rest of the house.
Speaker A:It was a very odd.
Speaker B:Okay, well, she also has very 70s appliances.
Speaker B:Because I do have a note about how her appliances work.
Speaker B:They all look very old.
Speaker B:And then there's also this very weird sound that's like a ticking that I don't.
Speaker A:Like, I didn't notice.
Speaker B:It was like a.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was very unpleasant.
Speaker B:I can't believe you did not notice that.
Speaker B:So then Kate comes in, and he grabs Gemma, which Sam jumps in, the gun goes off.
Speaker B:They fight.
Speaker A:The phone rings, struggle.
Speaker A:And then there's a struggle for the gun.
Speaker A:The phone's ringing, and then the.
Speaker A:Dean's calling and Cole.
Speaker A:And then Cole's attacking Dean.
Speaker B:Cole flies in deep like a lost boy vampire.
Speaker B:And he's just like.
Speaker B:And just.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:And Dean gets his gun onto Cole's throat.
Speaker A:And Dean flips Cole over, and Cole is puking up green goo with the worm in it.
Speaker B:God.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker A:But the green goo is new.
Speaker A:There's not green goo in the other worm bottle.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:I don't want to see it.
Speaker B:And then he kills it, and it's.
Speaker B:Oh, God, go away.
Speaker B:Like, it looks like that centipede I saw on my floor once.
Speaker B:Which, frankly, wasn't at this house.
Speaker A:Well, Dean called Sam.
Speaker A:Good news.
Speaker A:We killed.
Speaker A:We did it.
Speaker A:The sweat lodge worked, but Sam's all too late.
Speaker A:We killed him.
Speaker A:We already.
Speaker A:Because he already killed.
Speaker A:Because Kit is dead and Gemma is cradling her dead husband.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is not good.
Speaker A:It's sad.
Speaker A:It's very sad.
Speaker A:So I am unclear as to whether Sam or her did it.
Speaker A:Because Sam, they say okay, because he was on top of them.
Speaker A:But they made it sound like later.
Speaker B:That's the story that Jim is gonna have to tell because Sam wasn't there, so.
Speaker A:Got it.
Speaker A:So Cole leaves the cabin.
Speaker A:Sam wishes it hadn't ended that way.
Speaker A:But Cole knows what happened.
Speaker A:Gemma told him everything.
Speaker A:And Sam protected Gemma from Kit, so.
Speaker B:And then Cole says, I guess I've seen it all now.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:I mean, dude, like, you know, you think, like, you've seen two things, and you've seen with what The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:And they're like, go away.
Speaker B:Just go home.
Speaker B:Go home, Cole.
Speaker A:Go back to your family, bro.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:But he thanks.
Speaker A:He thanks Dean and.
Speaker A:But he hopes he doesn't see them again, which is fair.
Speaker B:This is fair.
Speaker B:Bye, Cole.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker B:Go away.
Speaker B:We don't want to see you anymore.
Speaker A:So Cole leaves, and Sam looks sad.
Speaker A:So Dean tells Sam that he doesn't.
Speaker A:He shouldn't blame himself for what happened to Kit and.
Speaker A:Sounds like, I just feel crappy.
Speaker A:I just really tried, and I couldn't save this one.
Speaker A:Dean says, sometimes good guys still dies.
Speaker B:And that is depressing.
Speaker B:And then Sam's like, oh, are you talking about yourself?
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Dean, you okay?
Speaker B:Are you okay?
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Okay, so I want to talk about this cast because obviously I want to talk about Gemma, and then we'll talk about the episode.
Speaker B:And there's, like, one little after thing, too, about this episode, too.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Okay, cast, people.
Speaker C:Casting couch is the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:All right, so this week's cast is.
Speaker A:Gemma is played by Michelle Morgan, and she's been in episodes of L Word, Good Doctor, Batwoman, Tracker, Virgin River Imperfects, and has this reoccurring character named Samantha Slash Lou in Heartland.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:So she's a main character in Heartland, which is like the world's most whoresome horse show where the horse whisperer teaches horses to dance.
Speaker B:And frankly, like, that show is so stupid and wholesome, but horses dance.
Speaker A:It's fun.
Speaker B:So I just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's worth it for watching horses dance.
Speaker A:Pretty horses dancing.
Speaker A:Well, Kit was played by Richard de Klerk.
Speaker A:He's been one other episode of Supernatural.
Speaker A: He has been in episodes of: Speaker A:And then he was a character named Taxi in the movie cbgb.
Speaker A:Beth, the widow, was played by Helena Marie, and she's been episodes of Suits and the Good Doctor.
Speaker A:And our Sheriff Corcoran was played by Peter Anderson.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of X Files, man in the High Castle a couple times.
Speaker A:And was Tom in the movie the Golden Seal.
Speaker B:And the role of Cake was played by Cake.
Speaker B:It was chocolate with.
Speaker B:With lots of chocolate.
Speaker B:Like, I had chocolate buttercream icing on it with a rounding of green icing that Dean suck his finger in.
Speaker B:So besides the cake, what did you think about this episode?
Speaker A:I think it was.
Speaker A:Was.
Speaker A:I was annoyed when Cole showed up because I think we have similar feelings about Cole.
Speaker A:I think the worm was effing Disgusting.
Speaker A:I do think it did a good job at propelling the storyline of Dean coping slash, not coping with his mark of Kane.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, there was a monster, but why we had to bring back the worm.
Speaker A:That's a gross monster.
Speaker B:We didn't need to bring back that worm.
Speaker B:I don't think so.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker B:Gross.
Speaker B:That's just what I think about this episode.
Speaker B:It's gross.
Speaker B:It does.
Speaker B:It makes you like Cole more like.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker A:I kind of like, hope this is the end of Cole, but I kind of like leaving Cole on a more.
Speaker B:I believe this is no spoilers.
Speaker B:I believe this is a Nicole, but.
Speaker A:Leave him on a better note than, like, a note.
Speaker B:It's better than it was before.
Speaker B:And, you know, I think they had to put him through the ringer and, you know, and you got sympathy for him and he did some use.
Speaker B:He did not.
Speaker B:It was kind of useless.
Speaker A:He had some character development for him.
Speaker A:Yeah, There you go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He still needs a safe word.
Speaker B:What is Cole's safe word?
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:That's all I got.
Speaker B:All right, so I just want to think this is from the Supernatural wiki to stop.
Speaker B:This was good to know.
Speaker B:So after the episode, writer Jenny Klein tweeted, Supernatural family.
Speaker B:There are families who need our help.
Speaker B:Brave men and women who face struggle when returning from military service.
Speaker B:Super proud of my cousin, Air Force pilot at Viper underscore Poison.
Speaker B:He recommended a few veterans charities.
Speaker B:Please donate if you can to Fisher House foundation and Disabled American Veterans Charitable Service Trust.
Speaker B:Neither of those have been vetted by Devil's Triumph podcast that was recommended by Jenny.
Speaker B:And then Jared also tweeted that part of the proceeds of his Always keep fighting would go to wounded warriors.
Speaker B:And Jared had already had organized for his campaign to be extended for 24 hours.
Speaker B:So it was still on during the broadcast of this episode.
Speaker B:And when it finished, shortly after 46,436 T shirts were sold.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Which I think is impressive.
Speaker B:And I think also another interesting point of the.
Speaker B:This that we kind of didn't really touch on, you know, that also underlying story, too, of the PTSD storyline that was going through it, which I think is obviously an important topic.
Speaker B:And I think putting it into this context is an interesting way to do it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:As opposed to the normal.
Speaker B:I want to say the.
Speaker B:The tip.
Speaker B:This is a normal pts, but the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The trope of soldier comes back, soldier gets drunk, soldier takes people hostage.
Speaker B:You know, this is.
Speaker B:This was almost like soldier like it's completely out of soldier's hands because it's completely, you know, and I think it makes it more empathetic but really puts it into perspective, like how out of control that situation is that, you know, this is.
Speaker B:But putting in the metaphor of, you know, this disgusting worm.
Speaker B:But I think it's an interesting way to carry that, to tell that story.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker A:I agree for sure.
Speaker A:Important.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Ah, so.
Speaker A:But they, even though they up with.
Speaker B:Classifications, they know they're always gonna.
Speaker B:They're gonna up.
Speaker B:They're gonna up at law enforcement, you know.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:And you know they're gonna up sending an encrypted email.
Speaker A:So, I mean, like, Sam's the greatest hacker ever.
Speaker B:Encrypt your emails.
Speaker B:Go look at Proton gets free.
Speaker B:Anyways.
Speaker B:All right, on that note, anything else?
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Cheers, sir.
Speaker A:Cheers, babe.
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Speaker A:Going up to the spirit in the sky?
Speaker A:That's where I'm gonna go when I die?
Speaker A:When I die and they lay me?
Speaker A:I'm gonna go to a place that.
Speaker B:Sat.
