11:13 Love Hurts
Oooh oooh Love Hurts, but Season 11, Episode 13 doesn't. What bars is Dean hitting to hook up with women at? Will sage ruin your garbage disposal? When can you see Liz's new band Ironic Werewolf? We answer all those questions plus some quick tips on the Crime Scene Clean-up Business, and a discussion on the Qareen(aka qarin).
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On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we might have come up with our next band name.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker B:Catskulls?
Speaker A:Detachable Boob?
Speaker B:Ironic Werewolf.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we're going to Talk Season 11, Episode 13, Love Hurts.
Speaker A:Well, what have you been up to, Liz?
Speaker B:Oh, you know, not a whole lot.
Speaker B:Just working on a house remodel and also bringing this crazy screaming goat in here, screaming right into the microphone for all of you.
Speaker B:He's pretty amazing.
Speaker B:I bought him for my mom and I let her have him for a couple of like for a week or two after.
Speaker B:Well, I bought him in the hospital.
Speaker B:My mom was in the hospital and so I feel like it entertained her enough.
Speaker B:I also found it like back in the box in the house, so I figured she was probably maybe entertaining herself too much with the screaming goat.
Speaker B:So Halloween is in full sale.
Speaker B:Actually, they're starting to put like Christmas out.
Speaker B:But you know, you can still get some Halloween stuff if you hurry, right?
Speaker A:I mean, it's only the beginning of September.
Speaker A:What are you doing?
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker B:Why didn't you already buy your Halloween stuff?
Speaker B:I. I'm just looking for home decor.
Speaker B:Really is most.
Speaker B:Most the time I'm just like, oh.
Speaker A:Thank you for putting year round home decor, not Halloween decor.
Speaker B:But also people do put out some special things and they do.
Speaker B:Yeah, anthropology has some pretty good.
Speaker B:No, West Elm has some good spooky plates.
Speaker B:I need to replace my spooky animal plates.
Speaker B:So those are on sale.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna try and get some of those.
Speaker B:But yeah, just getting ready for spooky season and.
Speaker B:Which is now we're in September, so it's.
Speaker B:It's spooky season.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And what about you?
Speaker A:I. I went out two nights in a row like a crazy person.
Speaker A:No, Yeah, I went to this.
Speaker A:I've been.
Speaker A:I went to a comedy show.
Speaker A:It was pretty fun with some friends.
Speaker A:And then I went to two concerts in one night.
Speaker A:I did one of my.
Speaker A:My run arounds.
Speaker A:I got to see this country singer named Hannah Juanita.
Speaker A:And then I went and saw a really.
Speaker A:There's a really cool fundraiser for Amplified Minds with a band called Cure for Paranoia.
Speaker A:It's like a hip hop band.
Speaker A:They are.
Speaker A:I mean, it's a rap.
Speaker A:Rap, but it's like a full band.
Speaker A:It's really cool.
Speaker A:They're so good.
Speaker A:Anyways, so that was my.
Speaker A:That was my exciting weekend And I'm getting ready to go out of town time for Nashville, my annual trip, literally.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And other things.
Speaker B:So they have.
Speaker B:The video from the Jensen and Jared panel is up on YouTube from Austin.
Speaker B:I mean the only.
Speaker B:The only city that I care about really.
Speaker B:But so I. I recommend going and watching that from the creation convention from August.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B: convention will be in Novemb: Speaker B:There is a possibility it will be 90 degrees because it is Texas, but slightly better chance that we could like take pictures and not be sweating.
Speaker B:So looking forward to that and how.
Speaker B:And Jensen just looks swole as right now.
Speaker B:And he was like, oh, it's like I have a keg belly.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, dude, you look like you work out.
Speaker B:Like wake up.
Speaker B:Eat protein bar work out.
Speaker B:You know, that's what he's like.
Speaker B:Sizes swole.
Speaker B:But they just started shooting Vaughn Rising, fought Rising.
Speaker B:I can't say vaught.
Speaker B:But so they just started filming that.
Speaker B:So that's pretty exciting.
Speaker B:And also I noticed that the person who directed this episode.
Speaker B:I'm going to tie myself in.
Speaker B:Who is also a producer on the Boys, which will be coming out soon.
Speaker B:Phil Scruccia was also producing and directing some of the new episodes of Twisted Metal, which were fantastic.
Speaker B:And I really want to be a doll.
Speaker B:So if you've not watched Twisted, huh?
Speaker A:I've only watched the first season.
Speaker A:Still.
Speaker A:I need to watch it.
Speaker B:Oh no, you need to catch up.
Speaker B:Yeah, like.
Speaker B:And I'll just spoil it.
Speaker B:There's like, you.
Speaker B:It's, you know, the.
Speaker B:The girl group from the first one.
Speaker B:Well, they getting better in the second one.
Speaker B:And there's a whole new girl group of like people like just riding on top of things that are on fire.
Speaker B:Which is like what I'm hoping to take my pictures of in a couple of weeks in the desert.
Speaker B:But just like there's just girls riding on.
Speaker B:Basically it's like Mad Max Furiosa type stuff.
Speaker B:And it's just insp.
Speaker B:We're just preparing me for my future life, you know, of like, this is how when, you know, my good apocalypse finally comes.
Speaker B: Because whatever happened in: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Phil Scripture will get.
Speaker B:We'll get you there.
Speaker B:So he directed this and the title of this was Love Hurts.
Speaker B:And so they say it is a reference to the song of this.
Speaker B:The song by the Everly Brothers, but I don't think so.
Speaker B:Then they're like, well, it was covered by Nazareth.
Speaker B:I'm like, yes, yes, that is true.
Speaker B:And then it was also used in episodes of Season 6, Episode 14, Mannequin 3, the Reckoning, which, coincidentally, was also written by this week's writers Eric Carmelo and Nicole Snyder.
Speaker B:So that we all last saw.
Speaker B:We saw Phil Scritchia this season with Forman Void, which was episode two.
Speaker B:And Nicole and Eric, we saw them do episode seven.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that was plush.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Also, one thing on the.
Speaker B:On the panel, Jensen and Jared, they were talking kind of about their favorite episodes and other things.
Speaker B:And one of the.
Speaker B:The people got up and was talking about how the episode with Scully, the Just My imagination episode that we discovered, like, how important that was for their family who had schizophrenia, and kind of learning about, like, this different reality world that exists and how it was just this really touching moment about using Supernatural as, like, this metaphor for their life that just kind of made it a little bit better.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And then they started talking about this week's episode.
Speaker B:So I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker A:So that is cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, so we start off Valentine's Day.
Speaker B:Maybe not.
Speaker B:This week's episode is some episode that was around here.
Speaker B:I told you, we got sound bites for something.
Speaker B:So some recent episode in this season they talked about.
Speaker B:All right, so yay.
Speaker B:Jensen and Jared, I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Valentine's Day in Hudson, Ohio.
Speaker A:And we've got the song Heartbreak by the James Hunter 6 playing, which is a really good band.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And we've got, you know, his husband and wife or what we know that.
Speaker A:We find out.
Speaker A:Husband and wife.
Speaker A:She's straightening his tie.
Speaker A:Their kiss, their doorbell rings.
Speaker A:They're getting ready for a date, clearly on Valentine's.
Speaker B:And the wife is pissed because they know, like, whoever is ringing this doorbell is gonna wake up Tegan.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B: That is such a: Speaker B:We're gonna wake up Tegan and which, funny enough, we.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go in.
Speaker A:Spoiler.
Speaker A:We never meet Tegan or see Tegan.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Thankful.
Speaker B:Thankfully, Tegan, I think, is Tegan is.
Speaker A:At mom's house for this whole.
Speaker B:She goes to Grandma.
Speaker A:Grandma's at Grandma.
Speaker A:Thank God.
Speaker B:But I don't know.
Speaker B:Grandma raised Melissa, so we.
Speaker B:We let.
Speaker B:He let Stacy in downstairs, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not a realistic apology for the Durabelle.
Speaker B:She's like, sorry.
Speaker B:I remember, like, right when I go in there, and then she starts, like, making out with this Dude.
Speaker B:And then shits on the mom lipstick.
Speaker B:And I'm like, you, Stacy, you home wrecker.
Speaker B:Like, and normally I'm not like, I'm not blaming the side of cheaters who are in the relationship.
Speaker B:And not like, I'm definitely not gonna let this hard off the hook.
Speaker B:But I can't stand Stacy.
Speaker A:No, she's not.
Speaker A:She's not likable.
Speaker A:She's not likable at all.
Speaker A:And she wants him to tell his wife what is going on.
Speaker A:And he's like, but it's Valentine's.
Speaker A:Because he's a too.
Speaker A:And then she's like.
Speaker A:And he tries to be like, we've been.
Speaker A:He's like, we've been together for a long time.
Speaker A:We've got a house, a baby, a life.
Speaker A:And she's like.
Speaker A:She's like, yeah, that's what I want.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, okay, well, at least you're honest.
Speaker B:I've been saying that this is what you want.
Speaker B:You thieving a little.
Speaker B:But he like, yeah, you have a baby.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God, you rose little.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, everyone.
Speaker B:This is just.
Speaker B:We're not really just me pissing on them the whole up.
Speaker B:But that this is just a lot.
Speaker B:So I viscerally want to claw her girl her eyes out in this next scene, right?
Speaker B:And so because Stacy like goes going through and is like, I'm gonna do an ultimatum.
Speaker B:And she is like, tell her tonight.
Speaker B:He's like, or what?
Speaker B:I'm like, well, and then Melissa comes into the room and this little has the audacity to tell her she looks pretty and that she likes her lipstick.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:This, this bitch 100 that.
Speaker B:And not in a good way.
Speaker B:Like, man, you Stacy.
Speaker B:And so the couple leaves and Stacy's there by herself making herself a song snack, right?
Speaker B:And the TV shows you surfing through one shows your pretty face is going to hell.
Speaker B:So Henry Zabowski from the Gate from the last podcast, the Left, who I love is on there.
Speaker B:So, like, what are the people who I listen to obsessively was metaphor like in.
Speaker B:On a TV in an episode of Supernatural that I'm doing a podcast on.
Speaker B:It is very meta for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then there also was Neon Joe werewolf hunter episode Bark bark yum yum.
Speaker B:Oh, the your pretty face is going to hell was true love will find you.
Speaker B:And the Rick and Morty episode is Rick potion number nine.
Speaker B:So all those episodes revolve around the concept of love.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's clearly being stalked by someone outside the house while she's doing this while she's flipping channels and snack.
Speaker A:Having a snack.
Speaker A:And there's clearly a nanny cam in the fucking teddy bear, which just makes me angrier.
Speaker B:I'm like, what, you knew there's.
Speaker B:One of you knew there was nanny cam there, if not these, both of you.
Speaker A:Of you.
Speaker B:And you are making out in front of it.
Speaker B:And like, I know business before you were streaming.
Speaker B:So, like, you're lucky you couldn't just, like, stream that to your phone right now.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Dumbasses.
Speaker B:And the door opens.
Speaker B:So how did you feel about what happens now?
Speaker A:Oh, I jumped.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did you get a little.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This isn't the worst one in this episode, though.
Speaker A:This one I jumped because they hate this.
Speaker A:You see a man's hands touch her shoulders and she jumps.
Speaker A:But then she turns around because she.
Speaker A:And she knows him.
Speaker A:So this is the husband, Is it Dan?
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker A:Yeah, Dan.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, but we can't.
Speaker B:Well, we don't really like as observers.
Speaker B:They don't show him, but you kind of get the.
Speaker B:The concept maybe.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a hint.
Speaker A:But we see man's hands.
Speaker A:And she turns and she's obviously not scared when she sees who it is.
Speaker A:She ain't scared.
Speaker A:And she's glad he's there.
Speaker A:And he massages her shoulders and then punches her heart out.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And just goes clear right on through.
Speaker B:And then she did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, she did.
Speaker A:And there's a beat.
Speaker A:Her beating heart is briefly in this hand.
Speaker B:It's very weird as he walks out with her.
Speaker B:Like, it's very odd.
Speaker B:I guess it's very awkward.
Speaker B:Like walking out with it.
Speaker A:Yeah, super weird.
Speaker A:So we cut to the bunker where Sam is reading an article on his laptop about a suburban girl dying of a broken heart.
Speaker B:And that was really quick of them because that was yesterday.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And Dean shuffles into the kitchen looking like he smells terrible and is in pain from the night before.
Speaker A:And by in pain, I mean like.
Speaker B:Hungover and hungover and smells like sex juice.
Speaker A:Sex and sex and hangover.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he tries to eat these really old Chinese leftovers.
Speaker A:And I almost threw up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, then he spits it on the floor, which then that makes me ask the question, who's cleaning the bunker?
Speaker B:Like a really good question.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess I can see Sam, like, being kind of anal and uncleaning up after it, but he's not being homey.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so are they bringing in somebody to clean it?
Speaker B:And here is the also other thing.
Speaker B:Lebanon, Kansas, where the bunker is.
Speaker B:The population there is under like, 200.
Speaker B:And there's nothing but small towns around there.
Speaker B:Like, the closest, like, quote unquote city.
Speaker B:That's Salina.
Speaker B:And then someone's, like, two hours away.
Speaker B:So there's no way a man who looks like Dean Winchester is, like, going out to these local bars and not being noticed by all the girls that are there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So how is he not getting a girlfriend, a hookup, chicks just showing up outside the bunker, you know, like.
Speaker B:Or also.
Speaker B:Or just a reputation where nobody would, like, touch him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:After a while.
Speaker B:Or, like, he got chlamydia and, like, gave it to everybody.
Speaker A:You know, like, how, like, they travel a lot, though.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like his.
Speaker B:I just feel like this is too small of a town for you to be like, you go out.
Speaker B:Yeah, I feel like you burned.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:Whatever happened this Valentine's Day probably burnt.
Speaker B:Dean's hard around the bunker.
Speaker B:That's what someone said.
Speaker A:Well, he's got.
Speaker A:Definitely has a hickey and needs coffee.
Speaker A:And I'm glad he spit out the Chinese food leftovers, because that made me want to bomb.
Speaker A:But he was saying that he is.
Speaker A:He likes Valentine's Day.
Speaker A:He was doing his duty for single ladies, which also made me want to bomb.
Speaker B:He's just being a boy this episode.
Speaker B:So such a boy.
Speaker A:And then he's super judgy about Sam not being into it.
Speaker A:It's annoying.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was also annoying.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, whatevs.
Speaker A:Look out this case.
Speaker B:And then we find out that not only was Stacy being cheated on or, like, the girl that he was cheating on his wife with.
Speaker B:She was 19.
Speaker B:Yeah, you gross ass, nasty ass son of a. Ew, Dan.
Speaker B:Ew.
Speaker B:Ew.
Speaker A:And Dean is like, whatever.
Speaker A:Is that even a case?
Speaker A:It's not, Amara.
Speaker A:And then he's like, fine, okay, we can go check it out.
Speaker B:We can go.
Speaker B:Because, you know, a heart ripped out on Valentine's Day.
Speaker B:Ironic Werewolf, which is the name of my next band.
Speaker A:So we cut to the house where.
Speaker B:This occurred, where that occurred.
Speaker B:So baby hits the road.
Speaker B:We go to Ohio.
Speaker B:And so there is that feeling where I sent.
Speaker B:I was about to.
Speaker B:There's forensic cleaning services there.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, well, one.
Speaker B:They're there fast.
Speaker B:Like, everything is moving very fast in this episode.
Speaker B:The news got out, they got an article on it, and so forensic services are there to clean up.
Speaker B:And according to an undated article on how stuff works, and I think this is very dated, they said that it could cost between 1,000 and $5,000 to clean and decontaminate a homicide in a single room with a lot of blood in it might run up to $3,000, but that price will go up by the amount of grossness.
Speaker B:First and last restoration said the cost can range from 500 to $25,000 or probably about 80 to $250 an hour, depending on the severity of the location and the cleanup required.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Also insurance though will often cover this.
Speaker B:So if you have something that happens in your house, this is good to know.
Speaker B:So it can often cover me covered under auto, homeowners or business insurance.
Speaker B:In the case of homicide, the company usually sends the bill to the federal crime victim Reparations Agency, which provides financial assistance towards the price remediation.
Speaker B:And then in some communities like churches and stuff may help help out too.
Speaker B:So on Reddit six years ago, a guy named Nick Anthony Zamuckin of Bio One, a brand that sells crime cleaning services, said that in Greenwood, Colorado, he made $1.2 million a month with five employees doing crime cleanup.
Speaker B:There is, however, a high investment to get into the cleanup business, including making sure you stay in contact, compliance with the local regulations, and you also have to have your own insurance.
Speaker B:Now, the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not specifically list crime scene or as an occupation, but because it involves dealing with blood and bloody tissues, they say that it falls under hazardous materials removal workers heading.
Speaker B: e or cleaner salary though in: Speaker B:2019 was $43,900.
Speaker B:So I would say that if you're going to do crime cleaning, you should be an entrepreneur and start your own business because you're not going to make a. I think it's a better return.
Speaker B:Return on your, your time and your money.
Speaker B:So if you're me cleaning up blood, blood, like you need to own that.
Speaker B:That's my opinion on the crime scene.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So your next business endeavor maybe I.
Speaker B:Said there is, there's some investment getting started into it.
Speaker B:And you know, that's a, it's a pretty depressing business.
Speaker B:I don't want to be.
Speaker B:I, I know I've known like when it's happened, you know, like those things are always like really like awful to deal with.
Speaker B:And I don't have the emotional bandwidth for that, I don't think.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I mean I can handle the gross.
Speaker B:Like, but I don't.
Speaker B:If I could just have the gross and not the, the people, I would be fine.
Speaker B:But having to deal with emotions of that stuff, that's too much for my nerves.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I mean, so, but these Guys are there.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're in PPE and they're just cleaning up around Melissa and Dan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because they're just like standing around kind of.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Like with their backs turned to it, but nearby while this is happening.
Speaker A:It's weird.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It's a strange.
Speaker B:I think I don't feel like this is how the situation goes, but I could be wrong.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam and Dean are there and they are getting the rundown from Melissa and Dan of what happened.
Speaker A:And then Dan makes this comment about how anyone who met Stacy fell in love with her.
Speaker B:You're an idiot.
Speaker B:Like, of course.
Speaker B:Like, of course she knew.
Speaker B:Sorry, we're like, I'm spoil that later.
Speaker B:Like, of course your wife knew, you idiot.
Speaker B:Like, you're so stupid.
Speaker B:This man cannot cheat.
Speaker B:I think that's why I hate him even more.
Speaker B:Like, you're a bad cheater.
Speaker B:Like, if you're at least gonna be a.
Speaker B:If you're gonna be a crook, if you're gonna be a criminal, if you're gonna do bad, do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So Dean's like, well, maybe this was a crime of passion with his heart ripped out.
Speaker A:Maybe it was a.
Speaker A:They ponder if it was a robbery.
Speaker A:But the only thing missing is nanny cam.
Speaker A:And our.
Speaker A:In the background, our forensic dudes are loading up a very bloody sofa.
Speaker A:It is splattered everywhere.
Speaker A:And they're.
Speaker A:So Sam and Dean are going to depart while Sam is going to go to morgue and Dean is going to go to Dan's office to see if he can watch him one on one.
Speaker B:Take a sick day, buddy.
Speaker B:Someone was murdered in your house.
Speaker B:They just took a bloody couch out.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure you don't have to go to work today.
Speaker B:So we go from there to said morgue and Sam is there with the coroner, medical examiner, whatever she is.
Speaker B:I'm sure there's a way to tell, but.
Speaker B:But they're.
Speaker B:They're just.
Speaker B:They're stumped.
Speaker A:Yeah, but they know that she was conscious when her heart was ripped out.
Speaker A:I feel like I.
Speaker A:You would know if they were alive by the autopsy, but I don't know if.
Speaker A:How you know if they were conscious?
Speaker A:That's my observational question that I don't have an answer to.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker B:I didn't research that.
Speaker B:I was looking at forensic climbs, crime scenes.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And then I was just pondering that and then the.
Speaker A:But the coroner does say that they would typically have assumed this was an animal attack.
Speaker A:But there was no clothes yeah.
Speaker B:And there's no other markings everywhere.
Speaker B:It's just like this very nice, clean hole all the way through.
Speaker A:So Dean gets to Dan's office, and Dan is being totally not sus.
Speaker A:And doesn't know anything about technology because he is just, like, staring at Stacy's Facebook page.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Until his secretary comes in and tells him that Agent Weller is there going underground.
Speaker B:And he hides it, and he's just like, oh, no, I'm not looking at anything here.
Speaker A:So Dan just calls it out.
Speaker A:Or Dan, Dean calls out Dan and just like, are you banging.
Speaker A:You're banging the babysitter, Right?
Speaker B:Well, and he does it with, like, eyes, right?
Speaker B:Because basically he's like, play it straight like Stacy.
Speaker B:And he's just like, eyes, look at me.
Speaker A:And then finally he's like, I want to tell you what's going on, but I can't because it's just too weird.
Speaker A:But I definitely did have the nanny cam, but I'm the one that took it.
Speaker A:And I had it was having an affair, but I took it.
Speaker A:I took the nanny cam because we definitely kissed in front of it.
Speaker A:And I forgot about it, so I needed to take that.
Speaker A:But look at this.
Speaker A:And he popped up the memory card out of the nanny cam and puts it into the computer.
Speaker A:Because we see the person come through the sliding doors, massage Stacy's shoulders, punch her heart out and leave.
Speaker A:And it was Dan.
Speaker A:He's looking at.
Speaker B:It wasn't me.
Speaker B:Shaggy.
Speaker B:Defense.
Speaker A:Wasn't me.
Speaker B:Even though you saw me punching through her heart.
Speaker B:Wasn't me.
Speaker B:So Dean's like, all right, Shaggy, I'm going to take this SD card.
Speaker B:And that holds up all this memory.
Speaker B:And I just really want to know how this teddy, this.
Speaker B:This teddy worked back then.
Speaker B:But actually he believes Dan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because he sees something.
Speaker A:But he tells Dan to keep a lid on it while they.
Speaker A:While he looks into it.
Speaker A:So Dean goes back to this motel room where Sam's at.
Speaker A:And Sam's got nothing.
Speaker B:But Dean's like, is sitting on the couch in this white button up, which is very 50 shades of gray to me.
Speaker B:But, you know, but he's.
Speaker B:He's found nothing.
Speaker A:Well, Dean's like, look what I have.
Speaker A:He's got this memory card to show.
Speaker A:And there Sam's like, I thought he was at dinner.
Speaker A:And he's like, that's not Dan.
Speaker B:And in the camera, they can catch a flare.
Speaker B:And so we can see by their light and their eyes that that's a ship shape shifter person of some kind.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So back at Dan's office.
Speaker A:His secretary checks on him and he's like I'm fine.
Speaker B:And then she's like be kind of pointingly being like maybe you should go home and be with your family, you dick.
Speaker B:Like, you know, like someone was just murdered in your house.
Speaker B:Your wife is probably just wife and baby maybe.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Good idea.
Speaker B:Stay here working instead.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker A:And then she goes to the elevator and she's just standing there politely.
Speaker A:And some gets off the elevator and shoulder checks her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she's got really cute boots on though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this person that this take off the elevator, comes around to Dan's office and it's Stacy.
Speaker A:Casey's supposed to be dead.
Speaker A:So he is super confused.
Speaker A:And she says, I want you to give me your heart.
Speaker B:Give me your heart.
Speaker B:What a pun.
Speaker B:What a pun.
Speaker B:And she takes her nicely manicured hands and rips out his chest.
Speaker B:All the way through a cubicle wall.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Punches his heart out and walks away.
Speaker A:So we go the next day we've got Dean talking to.
Speaker A:It's his secretary Gladys.
Speaker A:His assistant actually.
Speaker A:And she's like, no, I just remember this rude buxom 19 year old.
Speaker B:Gladys.
Speaker B:Why are you using the word?
Speaker A:What the Gladys?
Speaker A:It was just funny.
Speaker B: I was like, are you in: Speaker B:Like I don't know.
Speaker A:So weird.
Speaker A:And Sam confirms with a photo that that was her.
Speaker A:So now they know it was the shifter.
Speaker A:And so now they're sure that Melissa is behind the.
Speaker A:This all.
Speaker B:Well, D's not really sure.
Speaker A:He thinks he's.
Speaker B:He is laying odds that Melissa is the shifter.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So they have to go see her, of course.
Speaker A:And she's holding two bottles.
Speaker A:But the baby's not there.
Speaker A:Because the baby's with grandma.
Speaker A:Why are these bottles half full?
Speaker A:Did she just have these laying around?
Speaker A:That's not how that.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I'm not trying.
Speaker B:Tegan was not very hungry.
Speaker B:Tegan has an eating disorder because her name is Tegan.
Speaker B:Of course she does.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But Sam is just like, look, I gotta ask you something uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Did you know that your husband was your 19 year old babysitter?
Speaker A:And she's like, I did.
Speaker A:But I still loved him and thought we had a chance to fix it.
Speaker A:Girl so Dean's like, hey, break into.
Speaker B:Destiny's Child girl so I'm gonna let it go.
Speaker A:Let it go girl Made her choice.
Speaker B:Oh girl so Dean's just like, here's a pen and a card.
Speaker B:Write down your number.
Speaker B:Which is a good way to be like Touch my silver.
Speaker A:Touch my silver pen.
Speaker B:But she's a heavy pen too.
Speaker B:I guess it must be silver plated.
Speaker B:That would probably have the same effect, but I guess.
Speaker A:But it doesn't phase her.
Speaker A:So now we know that Melissa is not the shape shifter.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, well, we're.
Speaker A:By the way, we're at this motel if you need anything.
Speaker A:And yeah.
Speaker A:So Dean's like.
Speaker A:They leave.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I want a beer and to go find some more chicks.
Speaker B:He wants to be a boy in Ohio.
Speaker B:Because the.
Speaker A:He's burned.
Speaker A:He's burned.
Speaker A:He's burned lamb at Lebanon, Kansas.
Speaker B:Well, maybe his dick is burning by now, but.
Speaker B:So Sam is.
Speaker B:Sam is gonna go hit the lore while Dean goes and does like super.
Speaker B:He's just being super.
Speaker B:Gene Winchester was like an older version of Dean that we have seen in a while, which is kind of good but also kind of weird.
Speaker B:Well, I guess was it.
Speaker B:He's likely compensating for something is what we will figure out.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:So Melissa, though, she may not be a shifter, but she may be shifty.
Speaker A:Oh, there you go.
Speaker A:Because she watches them leave and then runs to this hidden box full of witchy stuff and starts shoving it down the drain without the disposal or the water running.
Speaker B:Okay, first off, that's not how you use your garbage disposal, Melissa.
Speaker B:Okay, second, I don't want to be misogynistic here, but I don't think you know how to fix a garbage disposal.
Speaker B:And your husband is dead, so I would not put sage in a disposal.
Speaker B:We do not put our sages in the disposal.
Speaker B:We certainly don't put a fucking cat skull in our disposal.
Speaker B:That is how you break the disposal.
Speaker B:Then you have to have the repair band come out and explain to him.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:There's a cat skull in your garbage disposal.
Speaker B:Yeah, also just turn on your goddamn water before you put in there.
Speaker A:I mean, she.
Speaker A:She eventually does.
Speaker A:It's just annoying as no man to watch.
Speaker A:But she's calling a number that's programmed in her phone as the art of dying and saying that she messed up, Dan's dead, and the FBI is asking questions.
Speaker B:You don't leave that out of voicemail.
Speaker A:No, you don't leave that voicemail.
Speaker A:Do not leave that voicemail.
Speaker B:If I'm like the person that we learned it would be.
Speaker B:I mean, you man, like, I'm just never.
Speaker B:What, a new iPhone?
Speaker B:Who did this?
Speaker B:I would go get a new phone completely.
Speaker A:Well, later on that evening, she's having her glass of wine that she deserves.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know, but she was my glass of wine.
Speaker B:She poured a bottle of wine into that glass.
Speaker B:Because that's a big glass glass.
Speaker A:It is a big glass of wine.
Speaker A:That's like, when I have, like, my glass of wine and it's half a bottle.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Your glass of wine is the whole.
Speaker B:The bottle is a glass.
Speaker B: nocking at the door, and it's: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so you don't know who's on the other side.
Speaker B:It's even worse.
Speaker A:She's got a people.
Speaker B:Somebody has shown up in person and you can't tell who they are.
Speaker B:That's even worse, man.
Speaker B:She has a peephole, but you have to, like, go look at it, and then, like, they can see you.
Speaker A:Well, she does.
Speaker A:And it's Dan.
Speaker A:Dan's supposed to be dead, and he's doing this real creepy knock, and he wants to be let in and that he loves her.
Speaker A:And then she's backing away, terrified, as you should be, and he punches a hole through the solid door to reach through to unlock it and let himself in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:At least she had the bottom block, even if she didn't have the deadbolt locked.
Speaker B:But then we start going through Melissa's fight school, and she just, like, grabs the water hose from the sink and just gives him the hose.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker B:Oddly, that doesn't work.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's, like, trying to.
Speaker B:In your kitchen when you're trying to find an app.
Speaker B:I had to.
Speaker B:I had to kill her.
Speaker B:The anthropods, whatever you call a scorpion.
Speaker B:I had to kill one with a knife this morning.
Speaker B:It was a hardcore, hardcore slaying of a scorpion in my sink.
Speaker A:So just call you Scorpion Slayer from now on.
Speaker B:I am Scorpion Slayer.
Speaker B:So she's like, all right.
Speaker B:Like, water that won't work.
Speaker B:Let me try throwing some flowers at you.
Speaker A:And then she's like, this is all bad, and she runs out the door.
Speaker A:Luckily.
Speaker A:Luckily.
Speaker A:So we go to the Too Tired Motel, which sign is really cute, I.
Speaker B:Would say, at the Two Tired Motel, if I was driving down the road.
Speaker A:And Dean pulls up for after trying to bang some chicks somewhere while Sam is researching.
Speaker A:And apparently neither of them had any luck.
Speaker A:And Sam, Dean wants to know what a dad bought is.
Speaker B:Mr. We all know Dean, you do.
Speaker B:You really do not have one.
Speaker B:Mr.
Speaker B:I don't think Mr. Ackles, like, even what you said you had a keg for instead of a six pack.
Speaker B:Like, sir, I really doubt, like, your abs have seen anything but a six back in, like 30 years.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But he opens their unlocked door.
Speaker B:And so someone comes pounding on the door.
Speaker B:And Melissa comes in and she locks the door, which is at least we find, like, pointless.
Speaker B:But at least she locks the door.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's like, dan tried to kill me.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, wait, your dead husband?
Speaker A:And she's like, yes, it's all my fault.
Speaker A:I loved him, but I loved him too much, and I just wanted him.
Speaker B:To love me back.
Speaker A:So I told my hairdresser about his affair because women do that.
Speaker A:And then she said she knew how to get her get him back.
Speaker A:And she was a white witch.
Speaker B:And then I cackled hysterically because this woman listened to somebody who called herself one.
Speaker B:I thought about doing a whole thing about white witch versus black witch.
Speaker B:And, you know, like, in dark magic versus white magic, because, you know, you can.
Speaker B:We can really go into that and rip it apart and, like, how most.
Speaker A:Of that is just.
Speaker B:Even if you go deep into magic, like, there's maybe not good magic or bad magic, there's just magic.
Speaker B:But it depends on, like, Anyways, there's a whole lot to be broken down there.
Speaker B:But also, just calling anybody a white witch makes me cackle.
Speaker A:It sounds kind of silly.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's really dumb.
Speaker B:And they use the words way too much in this episode.
Speaker B:Episode.
Speaker B:So she has been given a return to love spell, which she figured out that she just had to chant.
Speaker B:And all you got to do is seal it with a kiss.
Speaker B:And we get a flashback to them kissing, and it just looks sadder.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, I would like a copy of that spell, please, so I can look at this and research it.
Speaker A:And she just happens to be carrying it with her.
Speaker B:That was good.
Speaker A:I mean, which is convenient.
Speaker B:But it is convenient.
Speaker B:I mean, Lisa's surprise is not just, like.
Speaker B:Isn't a text message on her phone own.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam does his research.
Speaker A:We have some time passed.
Speaker A:And he's like, it's not a spell.
Speaker A:It's an Aramaic curse.
Speaker B:Don't like that categorization because Aramaic is a language.
Speaker B:And maybe you could go into, like, specific times of it.
Speaker B:But anyways, I don't like that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But there's no lore because it was the quote unquote, white witches home cooking.
Speaker A:White witches home cooking.
Speaker A:But it's transmittable by a kiss.
Speaker A:Like magic std.
Speaker A:That's what they say.
Speaker A:So Melissa's like, I killed them both.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, it's on the Witch, not you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that happens.
Speaker B:And then basically they go through like, it's coming for you, Melissa.
Speaker B:It's coming for you, but we won't let it happen.
Speaker A:And then the glass shatters.
Speaker A:And I almost died because it scared me so bad.
Speaker B:That was like a jump scare.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was a terrible jump scare.
Speaker A:Terrible.
Speaker A:Anyways, Dan's there and he wants to walk in and just.
Speaker A:He's gonna break the.
Speaker A:Break the glass.
Speaker B:He smacks the.
Speaker B:Out of Sam.
Speaker B:And the.
Speaker B:Dean's like, well, I am just going to shoot.
Speaker B:Shoot you with all the guns.
Speaker B:Bullets in my gun.
Speaker A:With silver bullets, too.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And that did not work.
Speaker B:And so then he is like, let's make out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he makes out with Melissa.
Speaker A:And then Sam is able to hit Dan with a chair, which is just enough to knock him off.
Speaker A:And then they are.
Speaker A:And he's pissed at Dean for kissing Melissa because now Dean's the target.
Speaker A:So they run outside the baby and drive away.
Speaker A:And we see our Dan shift into something else in a silhouette in the window.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam and Dean pull baby over on the side of the road and get out with leaving Melissa in the car and just start discussing and going through trunk.
Speaker A:So we have a trunk sighting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Sam is at least venting things that we have all thought at some point about.
Speaker B:Dean Winchester, you don't have to be a martyr.
Speaker B:You don't have to be the guinea pig to figure out how to solve this curse.
Speaker B:Mr. Winchester.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:But Dean's just like, I want credit for figuring out because I'm smart.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Melissa gets out of the car like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker A:What the fuck is happening?
Speaker A:And what the hell is this trunk?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is all very reasonable.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I think it's a Shape Shifter.
Speaker A:But I didn't flinch at the silver.
Speaker A:And she's like, you're not FBI, are you?
Speaker B:Even if it's not a Shape Shifter, it's still shifting shapes.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:And she sells sea cells by the sea store.
Speaker B:So Shape Shifter is still shifting shapes.
Speaker B:And then Dean's like, what do you know about the White Witch?
Speaker B:And then it's like, oh, I mean, sorry.
Speaker B:There's just like.
Speaker B:It's like her name is Sonia.
Speaker B:And then she's kind of weird.
Speaker B:And she's only been doing my hair for a couple of months, but I still trusted her with this.
Speaker B:And so it's in the spell.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, she is my hairdresser.
Speaker A:So, yeah, there you go.
Speaker A:To my hairdresser.
Speaker A:So we are gonna go to the.
Speaker B:Salon to the Art of dying, where Dean gets to have a dad joke.
Speaker B:It was like.
Speaker B:Can't say she didn't warn her.
Speaker A:So they want her to.
Speaker A:They want Melissa to stay in the car armed with a knife.
Speaker A:And she's like, wait, what?
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, no, you.
Speaker A:You probably need to stay here.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:But then he has to, like, pump her up because she's like, I can't.
Speaker B:Like, I can't use this knife.
Speaker B:And he's like, yo, she is a wicked witch who offed your husband and tried to kill you.
Speaker B:You punch her, you stab her, you drop a freaking house on her if you have to.
Speaker B:And they go, stop dropping houses on witches.
Speaker B:All right, so they go inside this one.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Maybe this one.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But they go inside the salon, which has no alarm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're.
Speaker A:He's trying to think of the kill.
Speaker A:Which killing bullets.
Speaker A:He wants a better name.
Speaker B:Sam Cox's gun.
Speaker B:And now is the time that he decides to tell Dean that he's using witch killing bullets in his gun.
Speaker B:They didn't strategize this about this car.
Speaker A:No, not when they were at trunk.
Speaker A:They just.
Speaker A:They didn't talk about anything at trunk other than, like, kind of telling Melissa their hunters, but not really saying it, not explaining what that means, and just getting ready to go to the salon.
Speaker A:That's all they did.
Speaker B:And maybe if skin.
Speaker B:If you had a witch go bag, they would just know that he had the witch pilling bullets in it.
Speaker B:You just need to be more organized in your trunk.
Speaker B:But Dean does want a better name for witch killing bullets.
Speaker B:So they never give us one.
Speaker B:And I'm very disappointed by that.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:But they're also standing in front.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, is WKB like, a good name for it?
Speaker B:Like, I feel like we're gonna go after acronym.
Speaker B:We're gonna talk about what they do.
Speaker B:Like, there's so many ways you can go in this marketing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And just missed opportunity.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, because you can be like, what it does.
Speaker B:Like, or.
Speaker A:Which bitch.
Speaker A:I don't know which.
Speaker B:Which bullets.
Speaker B:I like which bullets.
Speaker A:I like which bullets.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:All right, so as they're not coming up with the brilliant which bullets.
Speaker A:But they should have standing in the window with flashlights as cars are driving by inside the salon.
Speaker A:And I was dying.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I thought that was.
Speaker B:I would even skip.
Speaker B:Like, I would have peed every time a car went by.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:Like, how do you.
Speaker B:How do you do this?
Speaker B:But they break in.
Speaker B:They break into houses a lot more often than we do.
Speaker B:So now they've got to open a door and go into a dark basement, of course, which thankfully is very organized.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It's a lot of storage and a desk.
Speaker A:So, I mean, that's reasonable.
Speaker A:A little bit of construction, but.
Speaker A:And the desk in the basement has locked.
Speaker A:A locked drawer because of course it does.
Speaker B:Which is a desk in a business.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:The sail manages to pop it open and find text bags and a book.
Speaker B:And they figure out it looks like a grimoire.
Speaker B:There's a sigil in the front of it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what does he learn in the book?
Speaker B:All right, so he learns in the book that his stuff about a careen.
Speaker B:And Sam says it's a creature corporeal in form, a slave to your commands.
Speaker B:And Dean's like.
Speaker B:Kind of like a genie and Sansa.
Speaker B:Well, I guess so.
Speaker B:And then he tells him that someone chants a curse, lays a wet one on you.
Speaker B:Then the victim is seduced and killed by the careen, and instead of taking the form of Barbara Eden, they present themselves as your deepest, darkest desire.
Speaker B:And then you kill it by stabbing in the heart.
Speaker B:And the person who possesses it can command it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So we're going to talk about whether or not what Sam said is somewhat fine, but it's not.
Speaker B:So let's talk about lore.
Speaker B:Anyhow, so much of this is coming from Rosemary Ellen Guy's the Vengeful Gen unveiling the hidden agenda of genies.
Speaker B:Did you know they had hidden agendas?
Speaker A:Hidden agenda, yes.
Speaker B:And they say, you know, her, her findings were based on Middle Eastern lore, which is passed down from oral traditions and also also English translations of the Quran and not from the original Arabic.
Speaker B:So keep that in mind as you're going through.
Speaker B:Just, you know, some things may be lost in translation and also things that are passed down in ancient when you know, things, telephone, you know, exchange.
Speaker B:So a kareen, also known as a Karen, which is what I'll be referring it to, as to the rest of this translates to constant companion from Arabic.
Speaker B:And it, like I said, it's a fairly old concept.
Speaker B:It appeared in pre Islamic texts and there because of that, they're varying opinions on its exact nature.
Speaker B:In general terms, though, it is a spirit that accompanies a human, usually from birth earth.
Speaker B:And in the Islamic tradition, in addition to the concept of a guardian angel providing protection and guidance, there is a traditional concept of two recording angels on each shoulder who record everything you do so that it can be reported on judgment Day.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:But then there also is another tradition where the ones on your One's an evil Jen or genie, and the other is the angel.
Speaker B:And so the angel's telling you like to do the good things and the bad ones trying to entice you to do the bad things.
Speaker B:So the devil on your shoulder, right?
Speaker B:You know that concept.
Speaker B:So every person is said to have a Karen assigned to them at birth as their companion spirit.
Speaker B:And like I said, there's multiple interpretations of what that spirit is and what their intentions are.
Speaker B:But in some case it is like that one that's on your shoulder trying to lure somebody into temptation.
Speaker B:But in most cases are very similar to a Jinn, just maybe like a different genus or species, right?
Speaker B:Like related, but not the same.
Speaker B:Or sometimes it is an actual gen.
Speaker B:Some say that they're there for companionship, comfort and protection against evil gen. And the others say they're there to lead their assigned person astray.
Speaker B:And that's more fun to talk about.
Speaker B:So we're going to talk about that part.
Speaker B:So the wicked Korin gained their power and their strength from their person giving into temptation and evil.
Speaker B:And the only way to take away their power is by living a righteous life, right?
Speaker B:So Karens come in both genders and which one you were assigned Again, this varies on which version you ascribe to.
Speaker B:In the versions where the Jinn assigned is opposite gender to the person, they are very jealous of any love interest and they're responsible for interfering with relationships, right?
Speaker B:So they'll get jealous and break up like your would be husband through various means of.
Speaker B:Of.
Speaker B:Of.
Speaker B:Of trickery, right?
Speaker B:They're basically.
Speaker B:They're also a trickster and they.
Speaker B:Some of them can get jealous if you even just look in the mirror too much because you're buying yourself and not them.
Speaker B:If they are to please the person who has the Karen that they can get the headache, get headaches generally just get sick.
Speaker B:They can have nightmares, unexplained bruises, insomnia, depression, loss of appetite.
Speaker B:All these things can happen, but you can try and take control of them.
Speaker B:However, if you try to enslave them and you fail, then they can kill you or they can make you sick.
Speaker A:You can't.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's risky, right?
Speaker B:And there are professionals that you can seek to help you.
Speaker B:They can do a banishing ritual that is also risky.
Speaker B:You can summon them without meaning to just by talking about them.
Speaker B:So oops.
Speaker B:It is recommended that you speak of them either in whispers or use Euphemisms like them and those other people.
Speaker B:I think that's also risky in terms of just cancellation possibilities.
Speaker B:So I would not use those terms.
Speaker B:There have long been stories of humans marrying and banging Jedi.
Speaker B:I believe we have spoken about this before and about the people in the United Arab Emirates who claim they're descended from a line of Jin.
Speaker B:There is also some traditions, beliefs.
Speaker B:When men cannot find a proper wife, they will find a priest or a sheikh who can marry them to a Jin.
Speaker B:And but that comes with consequences and that includes jealousy and the need to.
Speaker B:If like if you're a dude and you marry a gen wife, you have to constantly talk nicely about your gen wise a wife.
Speaker B:Otherwise you will be driven insane and possessed to do horrible things.
Speaker B:And if you look at any other woman, that would also make your married correct crazy.
Speaker B:And so they just need to be you to talk nice about the the gen that you married and don't cheat on her.
Speaker B:Don't look at other women.
Speaker B:Or is she going to drive you nuts?
Speaker B:Also season 11 we have moved away from the sex magic era and we have moved into the era of boob folklore.
Speaker B:So here we go.
Speaker B:So with the Karen, you are supposed to knock before you enter any room so as not to surprise them.
Speaker B:This story was told to Guy Le about someone's cousin.
Speaker B:He was married to an evil genie.
Speaker B:At least that's what I got from her stuff.
Speaker B:So quote For a year, he and his djinn wife had lived happily together and they even had a son.
Speaker B:One day, the man forgot about the stipulation of knocking before entering, and he stumbled upon a horrifying scene.
Speaker B:The Djinn had taken on a different shape.
Speaker B:She was hairy and ugly, with vertical eyes in her black face.
Speaker B:She was cooking and their child was crying hungrily in the other room.
Speaker B:The moment the man entered, he saw her breast, black and ugly, passing by on its own to feed the baby.
Speaker A:Her boobs walked off.
Speaker B:Her boobs split from her body to nurse the baby.
Speaker B:And that is practical as.
Speaker B:And I don't understand like why we haven't gotten the science yet.
Speaker B:Like I approve of this.
Speaker B:But apparently he freaked her out and he.
Speaker B:She ran off, taking away her baby and.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And her boob and like maybe she left the boob.
Speaker B:That'd be kind of awesome.
Speaker B:Like leave the boob behind.
Speaker B:Like, does it have to go back?
Speaker B:How does it really reattach?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like does it.
Speaker B:Like, what happened?
Speaker B:Is it just.
Speaker B:I want to know more about this.
Speaker A:I'm leaving and I taking my tit.
Speaker B:With Me, that's what say, yeah, leaving you my titty.
Speaker B:Like, I. I have to know like more about.
Speaker B:Like this is something that happens often in this folklore that I have been missing out on.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right, enough of the titty folklore.
Speaker B:If the jinn was a Karen and the jin could become something called a makawi, I'm probably saying that very incorrectly.
Speaker B:It's M A K H A W I, which is a term for Jen that fall in love with a human.
Speaker B:And so if it's a woman marrying the Koran, then she has like other stipulations on hers.
Speaker B:Things that are like, she is for forbidden from ever disclosing their true nature.
Speaker B:So she can't like get gabby with her girlfriends and be like, oh my God, did I tell you about Tony?
Speaker B:Tony is a genie.
Speaker B:Like, you can't say that.
Speaker B:If he does that, it says that you will be mistreated.
Speaker A:Don't tell your hairdresser.
Speaker B:Don't tell your hairdresser that your husband is.
Speaker B:Is not.
Speaker B:Is more than human.
Speaker B:So you can protect yourself from this.
Speaker B:And if you want to keep evil Jen away.
Speaker B:So this would be a non attached evil Corinne.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You wanted to get them away.
Speaker B:You read.
Speaker B:Read the second chapter of the Quran at night for three days.
Speaker B:Or just in general, don't be immoral.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Which I think is easy peasy.
Speaker B:So if you be a good person, then you're fine.
Speaker B:But also, I mean just, you know, just.
Speaker B:Just disconnected titty.
Speaker B:Maybe my next album.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we go back into our motel where we're at.
Speaker B:We're talking about things they've had.
Speaker B:The motel.
Speaker A:We're at the salon.
Speaker A:We're at the salon.
Speaker A:And so Dean's amused by this because he doesn't think it's a curse after all.
Speaker A:Because he's excited to get FaceTime with Daisy Duke.
Speaker A:That's his deepest desire.
Speaker A:Deepest darkest desire since he was 7 years old.
Speaker B:So come with her jeans.
Speaker B:Cheap.
Speaker A:Well, Sam is clarifying that this is Bach, not Simpson.
Speaker A:And he's like, either one.
Speaker B:No, either one.
Speaker A:Which I really appreciated because by the way, Jessica Simpson had a lovely dress on at the VMAs.
Speaker A:I did not watch them, but I saw a picture of her and I.
Speaker B:Will send it to you.
Speaker B:But not as good as Lady Gaga who looks like Nadia.
Speaker B:Yeah, she was doing full on Nadia channeling and it was amazing.
Speaker B:So the boys play rock paper, Simon scissors.
Speaker B:And this is the first time in the history of Supernatural and in of the Winchester's lore that Dean has ever won Rock Paper, scissors.
Speaker B:So he is stoked.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:So they have to go find the Corian's Heart, because it's hidden somewhere in the salon.
Speaker A:They're sure.
Speaker B:But much like her titty.
Speaker A:Like, so maybe that's, like, her heart.
Speaker A:Maybe it wasn't her titty.
Speaker A:It was a heart.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So maybe that's where they got that from.
Speaker B:Okay, I'm running with this now.
Speaker B:All right, we're on board.
Speaker A:So Sam is going to go upstairs to look for it in the hairdresser stuff and starts poking around in cabinets while Dean stays in the basement looking around.
Speaker A:And he finds a locked metal box, pops it open, and we have a heart.
Speaker A:But we also have Sonja the hairdresser.
Speaker B:Red Sonja has appeared, and she pins.
Speaker A:Him to a chair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:With her magic.
Speaker B:She's like.
Speaker A:So Dean, in the basement, hears a noise, calls out, and we have an Amara sighting.
Speaker A:But we know and he knows this is not actually Amara.
Speaker A:This is the manifestation of Dean's deepest, darkest desire.
Speaker B:This is Quamara Kwamara.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I started calling her.
Speaker B:We've gotten to Quamara, so I. Kamara is like, all right, so before we get to that part.
Speaker B:So he's just like, you don't have a heart.
Speaker B:And so upstairs, though, Sonia has tied up Sam, who has id'd him as a hunter.
Speaker B:So at least she knows, like, she's not a dumb.
Speaker B:Like, yes.
Speaker A:And she knows she has a villain speech to give.
Speaker A:And he's like, but you're just a witch hawking death curses as love spells.
Speaker A:And she's like, I want to punish these men.
Speaker B:And, okay, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:She may have some points here, because she's like, the only thing worse than cheating men are the cheating men who get away with it.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So we have that first part there, and then I'm just going to jump ahead because we're twitching things or.
Speaker B:But she's really pissed off about the women who, like, let these guys cheat on them and then come back for more, and then it's just a different guy.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And so these girls who just keep dating guys who cheat on over and over again and then come whine in her chair about, like, why is this guy cheating on me?
Speaker B:Like, like, the other 500 guys that I dated before.
Speaker B:So I get it.
Speaker B:Sodia.
Speaker A:She's killing the women, too, because she thinks she's weeding out the idiots.
Speaker B:And so don't agree with your.
Speaker B:With your solution.
Speaker B:Solution to.
Speaker B:To your problem, Sonia.
Speaker B:But I can get why you're frustrated at this.
Speaker B:I can understand.
Speaker B:I would also be if I was a hairdresser.
Speaker B:I probably like.
Speaker B:But also, she says Sam is nuts, but she really could have killed him by now.
Speaker B:I just like, she has a pen just like stab him, like, Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't understand.
Speaker B:So then we go downstairs to Quimara.
Speaker A:And she's talking about how she can see inside Dean's heart.
Speaker A:And he's cloaked in shame, but he can't help himself, which is really kind of an.
Speaker B:I think is an interesting.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:We're getting some interesting breakdown of the Dean, Amara desire relationship thing.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But then Sonia starts the Aramaic strangle spell, and it involves like mushing a lot.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But Melissa runs in and she's just like, no, Sonia, stop.
Speaker B:I have a knife and I have no idea how to hold it.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna hold it awkwardly.
Speaker A:Very awkwardly.
Speaker A:While Amara, Kamara and Dean now are officially in a full fight in the basement.
Speaker A:And Melissa's like, Sonya, enough is enough.
Speaker A:And it's just enough time that Dean is able to distract her.
Speaker A:So I'm sorry, Sam is able to distract.
Speaker A:Geez, I can't even talk.
Speaker A:So Sonia's distracted.
Speaker B:And Sam shoots Sonia while Dean and Kamara are fighting.
Speaker B:And so Kamara is almost about to rip out Dean's heart, but then she disappears right after Sam shoots.
Speaker A:So Sonya, because Sam is able to stab the heart immediately after stabbing.
Speaker A:He shoots, shoots Sonia stabs the heart.
Speaker A:Dean.
Speaker A:Dean survives.
Speaker A:Amara, fake Amara.
Speaker A:Kamara turns into like this weird dissolving into dust implosion of blue light.
Speaker B:That's pretty cool.
Speaker B:And Sam's is like.
Speaker B:Comes in.
Speaker B:He's like, well, are you good?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam did not see karma.
Speaker A:And that's where we're at.
Speaker A:While they go back to the motel.
Speaker B:Where Sam has called the cops.
Speaker A:Nobody's called the cops.
Speaker A:The windows smashed out.
Speaker A:They did leave cash.
Speaker A:They just leave cash for the window.
Speaker A:Which I appreciated.
Speaker A:But Sam wants to hear from Dean about Daisy Duke.
Speaker A:And Dean is actually honest and says it was not.
Speaker A:It was Amara.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:And Sam is the.
Speaker A:Does not seem surprised, but asks if Dean was surprised.
Speaker A:And Dean was like, I.
Speaker A:She can't be my deepest, darkest desire because that would make me complicit and evil.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like he's asking Sam for reassurance.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, well, do you think that you had a choice?
Speaker A:I think she picked you out of the whole universe.
Speaker B:Open minded and so not judging him.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I want her Dead.
Speaker A:And he is like.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, I know that, but how bad is this, really?
Speaker A:And he's like, I. I.
Speaker A:When I'm standing here without her, when she's not here, I want to kill her.
Speaker A:That's all I want to do.
Speaker A:But when she's nearby.
Speaker A:Can't do it.
Speaker A:Can't do it.
Speaker B:Just can't be screwed.
Speaker B:But we want to kill the Darkness.
Speaker B:We need to kill the Darkness.
Speaker A:So they agree that when it comes down to it, Sam has to kill Amara.
Speaker B:And so Sam has got it.
Speaker B:Sam has got.
Speaker B:Sam's got this, right?
Speaker B:And Dee leaves, and then Sam follows as a breeze kind of blows through all the broken window.
Speaker B:And then you'd hear, what a vape.
Speaker B:What if the t. The sound recordings of baby babies engine.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And that's our episode.
Speaker B:So do we have we.
Speaker B:I guess we got some Melissa's and we got some dance.
Speaker A:Casting couch.
Speaker B:It's the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So Melissa Harper was played by Luciana Caro.
Speaker A:She's been in episodes of L Word, Smallville and ncis.
Speaker A:She was a waitress in White Chicks.
Speaker A:She was in a reoccurring character named Lorraine in Battlefield, Battlestar Galactica.
Speaker A:She was Sam in Blades of Glory, and Crazy Lee in Falling Skies is a recurring character as well.
Speaker A:And then Dan Harper was played by Jim Thornburn.
Speaker A:He's been episodes of Degrassi, Next Generation, Smallville, Fringe, the Fixer, Superman and Lois, and a whole bunch of Hallmark.
Speaker A:Sonia was played by Venus Turzo.
Speaker A:She's been in episodes of 21, Jump street, dead Like Me, and Frequency.
Speaker A:She was Cindy in it.
Speaker A:The 90s version.
Speaker A:She just done a.
Speaker A:She was Glory and Lonesome Dove.
Speaker A:She was a hostage negotiator in skyscraper, and Dr. Schwarzenegger reports in Arrow as a reoccurring character.
Speaker A:She's done a ton of voice work dating back to the 90s, including the he Man, Ranma, Sonic the Hedgehog, Dark Stalkers, and X Men Evolution.
Speaker B:The Hedgehog, Matisse.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then our Gladys, our.
Speaker A:Our office assistant was played by Lucia Walters.
Speaker A: es of act X Files, Smallville: Speaker A:She was in 50.
Speaker A:She had a smaller machine, 50 shades of gray, 50 shades darker.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then she was Julia, a reoccurring character on Virgin river recently.
Speaker A:Our coroner was played by Carmen Aguare, and she's been in episodes of Tin Man V, Riverdale, and Superman and Lois and she was the hotel maid in Best in Show and was a Spanish teacher in the Santa Claus too.
Speaker A:And Stacy was played by Zoe Frazier.
Speaker A:She played herself in a short that she acted, that she wrote and produced called Worst Day Ever.
Speaker B:Stacy, you gotta go it on.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:That night, you were 19 in this episode and the man took advantage of you.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So what do you think about.
Speaker B:For the.
Speaker B:For, you know, I guess the reoccurring Supernatural Valentine's Day episodes.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I thought this was.
Speaker A:Look, I thought it was an interesting take.
Speaker A:I liked how they used the force of the deepest, darkest secret to address the.
Speaker A:To force the.
Speaker A:The storyline of Dean's tie to Amara.
Speaker A:I thought this was a really clever way to do that.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, they definitely pushed that through and got some clarification on Dean's feelings for Amara.
Speaker B:I'm glad that him and Sam are talked about.
Speaker B:It seemed to be the grown ups.
Speaker B:About what?
Speaker B:About this.
Speaker B:At least one thing.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker A:They had like an honest conversation about this.
Speaker A:So weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, you know, to go back to what I was talking in the beginning about the projection, right.
Speaker B:Of Dean, when.
Speaker B:Of going back to boy, Dean Winchester, as him trying to cover up for what he's feeling for the Darkness.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And how his confusion for that is.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know if that regression of.
Speaker B:I guess maybe is like.
Speaker B:If that regression of the Winchester of him was necessary for that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because he has grown so much.
Speaker B:And I can see.
Speaker B:But I can see him falling back to you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I can too.
Speaker A:Because I feel like if he's in an emotionally a state where he can't, you know, address his own emotions and it's Valentine's Day and he just has an excuse to be gross, he's going to be gross outside.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But then he was gross after Valentine's Day, and then he smelled.
Speaker B:Because, Dean, you gotta realize you gotta shower after sex.
Speaker B:Like, before you even come home.
Speaker B:Like, you should probably shower before.
Speaker B:I mean, like, unless it's.
Speaker A:Yeah, take a shower.
Speaker B:Like, why are you sitting.
Speaker B:No, that's just.
Speaker B:And that's how people get UTIs.
Speaker B:You know, it just is.
Speaker B:It's unhygienic.
Speaker B:You should shower.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:All right, so on that note, shower after sex.
Speaker B:Biting people and Cheers.
Speaker B:Jerks.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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