Episode 9

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7th Mar 2024

8:09 Citizen Fang

AI Show Notes (I think our robot overlords knocked it out of the park).

Summary

In this episode, Diana and Liz discuss season 8, episode 9 of Supernatural titled 'Citizen Fang'. They share personal updates about their week, including attending a splits workshop and going to a country music concert. They then review the episode, highlighting the directing and writing credits, as well as the plot and character development. They also discuss the use of euphemisms for death and burial. In this episode, the hosts discuss various euphemisms for death and their origins. They also delve into Benny's situation and the conflict between Sam and Martin. Dean comes up with a plan to resolve the tension, but it leads to further complications. The hosts express their frustration with the deception and manipulation in the episode. They also discuss the emotional responses and dislike for the Amelia flashbacks. The fate of Benny and the consequences of Sam's betrayal are explored. The episode concludes with a cliffhanger as Dean receives a distressing call.

Takeaways

  • Personal updates and anecdotes can add a personal touch to podcast episodes.
  • Reviewing the directing and writing credits of an episode can provide insight into the creative process.
  • Analyzing the plot and character development can help listeners understand the episode in more depth.
  • Exploring the use of euphemisms for death and burial can be an interesting topic of discussion. Euphemisms for death often have interesting origins and can be used to soften the impact of the topic.
  • Deception and manipulation can lead to complicated situations and strained relationships.
  • Emotional responses to fictional characters and their actions can be intense and varied.
  • Flashbacks can provide insight into characters' pasts, but excessive use can be tiresome.
  • Betrayal and its consequences can have a significant impact on relationships.

Chapters

00:00

Introduction and Personal Updates

08:01

Review of Episode 'Citizen Fang'

14:57

Flashback to Mental Hospital

32:00

Dean Confronts Benny

33:03

Euphemisms for Death

33:25

Euphemisms for Death

34:11

Origin of Euphemisms

34:37

I Bought the Farm

34:44

Kick the Bucket

35:29

Pushing Daisies

35:45

Sleeping with the Fishes

36:03

Vermicomposting

36:25

Carted

37:16

Benny's Situation

37:47

Dean's Plan

38:40

Sam's Betrayal

39:11

Benny's Great Granddaughter

39:46

Benny's Backstory

40:09

Dean's Strategy

40:44

Sam and Martin's Confrontation

41:26

Sam's Flashback

42:37

Dean's Escape

43:49

Benny's Decision

44:04

Sam's Betrayal

44:23

Sam's Flashback

44:44

Martin's Fate

45:04

Benny and Dean's Mission

46:45

Fight with Desmond

47:00

Benny's Tendency

47:16

Sam's Abandonment

47:47

Dean's Phone Call

48:46

Sam's Flashback

49:32

Benny's Phone Call

50:20

Martin's Revenge

51:36

Martin's Death

52:05

Sam's Loneliness

52:30

Dean's Return

53:55

Sam's Location

54:45

Dean's Phone Call

55:12

Amelia's Surprise

57:12

Elizabeth's Call

58:13

Deception and Manipulation

59:14

Frustration with Sam's Actions

01:00:09

Emotional Responses

01:01:09

Dislike for Amelia Flashbacks

01:01:39

Benny's Fate

01:02:22

Sam's Betrayal

01:02:29

Conclusion

Research Links

Transcript
Jerk (:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana.

Bitch (:

and I'm Liz.

Jerk (:

And we're going to talk season eight, episode nine, citizen fang.

Bitch (:

Fantastic.

Jerk (:

Indeed. Shirt even says it. There we go. All right. How are you this week, Liz? Sore. Hey now.

Bitch (:

Indubitably.

Bitch (:

I'm sore.

Yeah. Yeah, no, not from anything fun. Well, I guess it was fun. I just, I went, I went to a splits workshop and so it was basically 90 minutes of hip flexors and just weird like wall stretches and just, I don't know, but it was also lots of fun. Like, you know, like we were like doing like working and getting the splits while like rolling out your calves. Like that was super nice, but.

Jerk (:

fun.

Jerk (:

this.

Bitch (:

those to the back of my legs though. She took the instructor though, took a picture, we were working against the wall, we're basically doing a forward split. So I guess imagine someone doing the split, standing with their back against a wall, but with one leg on the wall behind them, right? So I can't do that.

Jerk (:

Oh wow, okay.

No.

Bitch (:

to work on it, what you do is you basically put your leg up, you know, in like kind of like a perpendicular way and then you like work and then eventually you work and then you you're all the way flat again. So while you're gonna do the splits like I don't look like that though and the instructor like there is people in this workshop who clearly did and the instructor is like you all look great can I take a picture and I'm like oh my god.

everyone else is like sure and I'm like so they're gonna be like all these like super like there's always like graceful like people like all with their legs like splayed out the splits against the wall and there's this little goblin like in the corner with like a little leg like just a little tongue down a leg like where's the good soul and just like probably just like sweat like dripping down from my face.

Jerk (:

Oh my god, no.

Jerk (:

Ugh. Splits are hard.

Bitch (:

But you couldn't see my... Yeah, it was a super hard class, but it was fun. And 90 minutes is like... That always... It doesn't seem that long until you're in a class for 90 minutes. You're like, my attention span is not for this anymore. That was... At the end, she was like, okay, I built some time in for Shavasana. And there was this girl next to me who... Bless her.

Jerk (:

Until then.

Jerk (:

Okay, that's a very long time. Very long time.

Bitch (:

probably like early 20s, but you know, I can't judge age. She could have been five or like 90, I don't know. But she was a very tall and I think a dancer and was asking like, you know, the instructor just like, can you just help me? Like she was like, why can't I get my split down? She was like three or four inches off the ground. I just wanted to be like, you have fear, but, that wasn't my class, so I didn't say that.

Jerk (:

in five or 30, who knows?

Bitch (:

And so, but when we get to the end and the instructor is like, you know, we have time. We're so awesome. And that girl goes, are y'all just doing yoga stuff now? And then everybody's because there's like, it's just like six or seven people in this class. And everyone's kind of like, what? And we're just like, yeah, we're gonna lie down. And she's like, well, yeah, we're just gonna rest. I'm gonna come around and like.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

put a cool towel on your head with some essential oils. And I'm like, fuck yeah. And all the rest of us are like, this is what we're here for. And she's like, yeah, I'm gonna go. I just wanted to work on the splits. And she laughed and door shuts. And I was like, what the fuck? And I feel bad because as a person who sometimes thinks, this is apparently an ADHD trait that you think other people are talking about you, or maybe it's a narcissist thing.

Jerk (:

Ahhhh...

Bitch (:

But that poor girl should know that we were all talking about her when she left and just not understanding why she wanted to leave before they turned off the lights and they put a cold towel with like some nice essential oils on it. And like that instructor I really like who's when she goes around, I'm sure she's doing some yoga thing, but she like presses it into your forehead, like right into your temples and then kind of like drags it down like.

So it was just a nice little forehead massage. Well, the room of therapy is like, you're like drifting over you. And like, I just like fucked a wall. Like I would really like to have this essential oil, but I don't know. I just like, are you guys doing yoga shit? It was like the funniest thing.

Jerk (:

mean, I feel splits. I feel splits girl. I feel splits girl. I mean, I, but, but I also would have, I wouldn't have laughed, but I would, but I wish I would have. I hate that part of it.

Bitch (:

I do too.

Bitch (:

Well, the thing is, is like...

Bitch (:

I don't know, because sometimes I sit there and that will be when my mind explodes. It was like, I just want to leave. But I was really tired because we just worked out for 90 minutes and that towel feels really good because it's cold and I couldn't move. So, yes, I want to lie there like a bug or a corpse for a good five minutes. And it's not because I'm trying to reach a conscious self. It's I just want to lie here with this cold rag over my head because it feels good.

Jerk (:

Yeah, there you go. That's fair.

Jerk (:

No, that's okay too.

Bitch (:

Oh yeah, so what about you?

Jerk (:

Uh, I went and I guess what have I done? I went and ate a delicious dinner at New Off or beat night on leap day, which was super yummy as usual. And then I, um, we went to Billy Bob's in Fort Worth, the world's largest honky tonk to go see. Yeah. To see, uh, we went to go see Taylor honey cut who is an, uh, up and coming.

Bitch (:

Yee-haw! And you took an epic picture.

Jerk (:

I'm going to be doing a live stream of her. She's a country artist out of Alabama, who I am a super fan for. Right this minute, even though her first album fully hasn't even come out yet. And I am sold. She's a bad ass and she's really nice and she gives really good hugs. So if you give, I mean, I don't know if she's going to hug you all my grandos, but she's like really. Well, now I've like hung out with her a couple of times. So she's like, no, please don't. I'm not saying that. Go see her because she's a bad ass musician from Alabama. I don't do not ask her for a hug. That's weird.

Bitch (:

That sounds creepy. Like, it was like, you should go see her. She'll give you a good hug.

Jerk (:

It was a super fun night and saw a bunch of friends. Got to see buddies from like what? Vandaliers folks were there and some are Dean. So a lot of like Dallas, Fort Worth music folks were there. And so that was pretty cool. And yeah, got to hang and chat with folks and have a big old steak dinner at Cattleman's beforehand. We did not eat. We did not eat any calf fries. We missed the bull riding, unfortunately. So I was kind of bummed, but it was just the way the time worked out.

Bitch (:

Did you see any ghosts?

Jerk (:

So, I know it was good. And we did, babe and I took a pretty epic picture on the photo op bull. Maybe I'll share it, it's pretty. It's a winner, it's a winner.

Bitch (:

pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. All the people I've sent it to have also thought it was good.

Jerk (:

I'm, I've gotten a lot of comments, so it's pretty funny. But yeah, they, uh, the disappointment is that, uh, babe did ask if he could take his shirt off for a picture and he was told and they said, no, it's against policy to take.

Bitch (:

You said no.

emphatically no, we had to make a policy and you know why Doug. Way to go Doug, you ruined it for everybody.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's pretty funny. But yeah, no, Billy Bob's is a cool spot. If you're in Fort Worth, it's worth checking out just for the spectacle of it all. But there's always music. There's a bunch of pool tables. Very, very Fort Worth, Texas. So that's fun. That's it. I mean, that's my big thing. I just watch a bunch of TV this weekend. Yay. Here we go. Yeah.

Bitch (:

That's also exciting. Good times. Yeah, at least you had something to watch. There's nothing to watch right now.

Jerk (:

I'm also watching, well, I watched Wolf Like Me, and then I'm also watching Insatiable, which came out a couple years ago on Netflix, and I don't know how I feel about it, but I'm entertained because it's just so bizarre. And then, of course, my, it's love is blind season, so I'm deep in that world, deep in that world. Golden goblets, all right, thanks. So yeah, there we go.

Bitch (:

Cool.

Bitch (:

Well, there is a new Noel Noelle Noel Fielding show that I do. Like there's some good there's some good British comedy that's coming out. But anyhow, it's yeah. So it's March. It's. Today is Texas Independence Day when we're recording. So that that's a thing that happened on today. And it was today was also like 89 degrees. That was also a thing that happened today.

Jerk (:

Yes. Yay Texas!

Jerk (:

Yay, Texas. I love it.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I also, there is part of me that gets very nostalgic because this is a time like in RML elementary schools where we would have rodeos and fiestas and we'd have like the bike rodeo. And so those things will all happen like during these next few weeks. And so there is a part of me is like, oh, like, I want to go to like, you know, we've we just had the San Antonio rodeo just finished here. But, you know, we're moving into the spring season. So it's always a good time.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it is.

Bitch (:

So are you ready to talk about this thing? Well, I mean, there is some good, I don't know, it could have been better for that. I've got some points I will call out on, why wasn't Benny naked more? Okay, so, that was a valid question. So Citizen Fang, Wicom is a reference, if you couldn't figure that out, according to Supernatural Wiki to Citizen Kane, or her.

Jerk (:

Yeah, I am. Just kidding. I'm kidding.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

I mean, always a valid question. Always, I'm just kidding.

Bitch (:

It was season eight, episode nine, first aired December 5th, 2012. It was directed by Nick Coppice. And this was the only episode of Supernatural that he had done. He is however, a prolific TV director and producer, originally from Yorkshire, England. And his credits include Nikita, Arrow, The Flash, Siren, Leaves of Weapon, American Gods, Animal Kingdom, Bel-Air, Titans.

and a number of other things and is currently in production to direct three episodes of the new Amazon version of cruel intentions and I Think this is very controversial. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. So in this version Two Brutus step siblings will do anything to stay on top in this case of the Greek life Hierarchy at an elite Washington DC college system

They'll do after a brutal hazing incident threatens the entire panhellenic system. They'll do whatever is necessary to preserve the power and reputations, even seduce the daughter of the vice president of the United States. What the fuck does that have to do with cruel intentions? I mean, obviously, I can see like the power things like we'll go but y'all made a Greek

Jerk (:

Weird, weird.

Bitch (:

What Delta is just I don't like it. So Sarah Michelle Geller saying that. All right. So it was written by Daniel Laughlin and this was like last week's was the first time that Andrew Dab had his solo credit. And this is the first time Laughlin had his solo credit. So I think that's, that's nice. How do you see him? Back to back. So.

Jerk (:

Hmm.

Hmm.

Jerk (:

So, back to back.

Bitch (:

Our intro, our prequel, our recap starts off with a flashback to the mental hospital with Martin.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm. Yes.

Bitch (:

and Amelia Dawn crap and then Benny.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Yep. And our episode opens at, uh, Goodry's Cajun Cafe in Karenco, Louisiana. And we got.

Bitch (:

And they've got oysters, po' boys and gumbo and that sounds so good. And they have this neon and it's got the super alligator.

Jerk (:

Alligator. And then Born on the Bayou by CCR is playing. And we've got a woman. Oh, is it? That's exciting. Well, we've got it. Your research trip.

Bitch (:

And this is a real place that is outside of Lafayette. Yes. Yes, so now I almost went there this week, but I had shit to do. I was like, I will jump. I was like, well, the problem is also cause it's Lafayette. Like it's just, you had to fly it. Like you can fly into New Orleans and then drive like, it's like a two and a half hour drive in New Orleans. And then it was just like, ah, oh, this is the only time like I would consider going like March. Like it's, the mosquitoes probably aren't that bad.

Jerk (:

It's not hot as balls. Well, we've got the woman behind the counter is telling Benny how to shut things down for the night, but she calls him Roy. And we find out her name is Elizabeth. And there's so she's getting ready to leave and she walks out and Roy is going to shut things down for the night. And there's old dude at the counter who's creeping on fucking Elizabeth. Gross. And then we've got Martin.

Bitch (:

Oh!

Jerk (:

is sitting at one of the booths drinking some coffee. Oh, shit.

Bitch (:

No, he's not drinking his coffee. He's banging his coffee cup on the table and asking for a refill like a douche bag. Fuck you, man. Like immediately I'm just like, fuck you. That's so rude. Never ever, I don't know why I should have to say that. Like you shouldn't have to be told to not do that.

Jerk (:

Like a jerk.

Jerk (:

No? Well, Benny closes up. It's all dark. He's walking through the woods near there. I don't know what's happening.

Bitch (:

So like she like Elizabeth gave him a very long list of instructions about how to close down and they were very specific And he left and those neon lights are all still on and I think that is a closed down fail I think you have to close those things off one. You're just wasting electricity to like that electricity is probably really old It's been there for a while like that neon could catch fire and then get your ease or whatever the fuck is that in Cajun is just gone

Jerk (:

I don't know if you're supposed to turn the neon off.

Bitch (:

There was like a lot of excessive neon, but like, I would say it gets turned off and just, you don't generally like if you drive down the street, like there's usually neon lights are on.

Jerk (:

Well, Benny's walking through the woods for some reason, and Martin's stalking him. And then Martin trips and falls over a dead guy who's the old dude who was creeping inside. And Benny's not there anymore. Oh, no.

Bitch (:

Oh no, and this is what you get for running in the woods in the dark. And then we go to a lost in the fifties drive in and they've got pies and coffee and corn dogs and hamburgers and hot dogs and onion rings and french fries and sandwiches. And I was really hungry when you watched this episode. I was very hungry now, but the things all sound very good. And I would like them all like as a buffet.

Jerk (:

Well, Sam, Sam and Dean are getting food. They're getting food there. And Sam is on the phone with Martin about a vamp kill in Louisiana. And Dean calls out, he's like, you mean crazy Martin, like WTF. And Sam's like, oh, yeah, he's been discharged. He's back on the job. So I'm helping him back, get back into the hunter game by tracking Benny.

Bitch (:

Right, which is just a douche thing to do. And so like while they're talking over this, Dean is also just getting dreamy over the atufe that is in Louisiana as you do, but also at that point, could you see a scuff mark like on Dean's face?

Jerk (:

Yeah it is.

Jerk (:

it.

Jerk (:

Cuffmark.

Bitch (:

If you didn't like, so I mean, while you're watching the scene, and you go back and you look in the car, like he is got legs and some scuff marks legs and like scabs that are like on his forehead. So Diana would like to like, why do you think he has those on his face? Cause that didn't happen in the last episode. So why, why does Jensen Ackles have these scratches on his face?

Jerk (:

Oh.

Jerk (:

No, I don't know.

Jerk (:

That's a good question. Sounds like a continuity error. It sounds like he was doing a fight scene for something else and they shut out of order.

Bitch (:

Take a guess.

Bitch (:

Okay, I am so that's a real thing that's on Jensen Ackles face. I am going to share you the story of this and let's see how this fucking goes. And it's we're gonna just maybe I'll just try doing this. Okay, that I'm gonna let's see if you hear audio.

Jerk (:

Okay.

Bitch (:

No, you don't hear audio. Son of a bitch. Why? Why do you do this to me? Okay. Let's try this another way. Oh, so put a pause here and a mark so Dave can go in and show those. So see, let's see. I don't know why we don't test this shit out before. Cause it's more fun this way when we do it on the fly.

So stop.

Bitch (:

I don't know why it won't share the audio.

Jerk (:

It looks like it was up in two screens.

Bitch (:

Well, that's the screen that you're seeing. Share screen.

Jerk (:

Right, but I was saying I'm seeing it two times on top. Like, I don't know, it was like there's me and you, and then I was seeing it twice over here. So I think it was doubling up, maybe.

Bitch (:

Okay, so using that. Okay, we're gonna play this.

Bitch (:

No audio.

Bitch (:

So I have it downloaded. There's also a YouTube. Let me see if we do it in a browser if it'll show up.

Bitch (:

I love technology.

Bitch (:

That was very good. Open.

Bitch (:

Okay, so close this.

Bitch (:

Two, three.

Bitch (:

I wonder if I do it as a presentation. All right, so I'm going to try.

Bitch (:

So you can see that, right? So you can hear it.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm.

Bitch (:

Okay.

Bitch (:

So you're ready to pretend like none of that just happened. All right.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Bitch (:

Okay, so that was a real thing that was really across Jensen's face. And this is what happened in Black.

Jerk (:

Hahaha. Hmm.

Bitch (:

So that is how Jensen's face got that scab across it. So if you go back and rewatch, if you go back and rewatch the episode, you will see that. And I just, one, that's just hot. So I'm like, so really, like, it's like dudes like imagining chicks get together for like slumber parties and we have pillow fights and shit. And I'm like, what?

Jerk (:

today.

Jerk (:

Hilarious.

Jerk (:

Pillow fights and pillow fights and we're like, we're like, wrestling hurt each other.

Bitch (:

wrestle like rip off your shorts and fight. So yeah, so I wish I could have seen that. But anyways, so yes, the crazy caller was Martin and Sam has been tracking him for the past.

Jerk (:

Yeah, so Dean is pissed, but like fine, we'll go look into this if there's supposedly a vampire victim. So they drive to Louisiana and meet Martin at a motel where Martin is acting kinda sketch. He's definitely a little weird still.

Bitch (:

Yeah. And so this motel though, so why we are one beyond the beyond the boot, like, damn it. I had it beyond the new beyond venue on Louisiana. That's the sign when they come in. So they're staying at the Baudelaire and the Baudelaire has rooms for rent by the hour, the weekly and monthly and assessor's reasonable rates. Housekeeping in clean linens. But. And it's like, if it says hourly, you should just go.

Jerk (:

Bienvenue.

Bitch (:

Right? Like I don't think you should see, but this also looks like a very cool place. Like gas doesn't look like someone could be doing crack in like the next floor, but it looks like a place that could be a nice rehabbed Airbnb.

Jerk (:

Yes.

Jerk (:

Yes.

Jerk (:

Sure.

Bitch (:

Anyway, so in the in the Baudelaire, Martin is just cracking out.

Jerk (:

Yeah, he's a little out there and basically he kind of Martin gives a low down that he's working at a gumbo shop goes by the name Roy and all that. And Dean's kind of like asking Martin, like, are you all there? Are you on a full charge? And Martin says a little shock therapy in the morning. It's all he needs. So here we go.

Bitch (:

And I can just, I'm pretty sure he's giving himself the shock therapy. Like he's just going outside with some like jumper cables and his truck battery and just...

Jerk (:

Yes, that's how it reads. He is giving himself shock therapy.

Jerk (:

That's that's not usually how that treatment is administered. Anyways, I'm not a doctor. But basically, what comes down to is he never saw Benny kill anybody. He just thinks it's us. And he's convinced it's a vamp because Benny's a vamp period. The end Dean's like, nah, I'm not convinced. This is not going to be a fucking witch hunt. And I'm going to figure this out. And Martin's just like, how the fuck is a was a does a Winchester Oh, a vampire anything?

And but Dean's like, too fucking bad. I'm going to go figure this out. I'll be back in a few hours. Bye.

Bitch (:

Well, and he's, but he literally asked Sam for these hours, right? And he's talking more to Sam than to Martin. And, you know.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm. Oh, he is. He's ignoring Martin. He is not. Dean is not sold on Martin being involved in shit.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and I don't understand. Well, I do. I think Sam's just being butthurt and lashing out at Dean and doing this and lashing out because Dean loves Benny and he doesn't like being the second. I don't know. So there's something like just I don't feel like a rational Sam would be making these are these are all anti Sam behaviors. Like, Sam should be we give a

Jerk (:

Very weird. It's very odd. It's very not like him. Yes.

Bitch (:

maybe the crazy guy is fucking crazy. And, but Sam's like, okay, you're gonna have a couple of hours, no more.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's weird. Anyways, so he, so Sam kind of gets a Martin calm down a little bit and while Dean leaves and then Sam gets a flashback. Cause of course he does.

Bitch (:

But Martin wants to go behind Dean's back, which is like immediately like, I hate like, I know like I came into this hating Martin because I knew like what happened during this episode. So I already like had extra Martin hate, but you wanna go behind is like, this is all, it's just this episode makes me so frustrated and so mad. And I just wanna take Sam and just maybe like,

Jerk (:

Oh yeah.

Jerk (:

I hate it, Martin. Immediately. Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

The episode is full of lies. There's so much fucking lying and shittiness to each other in this episode all around. Now just call it out now.

Bitch (:

Yeah, so like maybe like I want to like go back to where like in that YouTube thing where Sam was like, you know, and then Jensen asked me to slap him like I want to slap Sam real bad real bad, but I don't know. It's just yeah, we're about to this horse shit of a flashback. Whatever. I'm gonna go look up recipes for boot in

Jerk (:

Yeah. So Sam and Amelia are at a house and they got the dog and she's trying to figure out what she's going to say to Don. And they Sam and Amelia agree they don't want to give each other up, but she needs a few days to clear her head. OK, this makes that's like two different things you just said there, ma'am. But whatever. Dean's going to go get some fucking gumbo. So that's what matters now. Or is he getting gumbo? What's he getting? He was going to get.

gumbo at first, but...

Bitch (:

So we were to the cafe so we were done with the flashback we were to the cafe I think this is gonna make a point we're done Okay, so we have transitioned and there are a lot more people at this cafe at this time like it all like is lit up it's very key that there's all sorts of things and Elizabeth has dropped down a menu in front of Dean. There's just like I know what you want Well, he's like, I know what I want and she's like, let me guess you want the gumbo

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm, and he thought he wanted the gumbo, but then he saw that they have pie

Bitch (:

This is PB's playhouse, I mean the pie is the secret word of the day

Jerk (:

AAAAAAAA Pie is the word of the day. Um.

Bitch (:

Yeah, so we're doing a giveaway. We don't know how this is going to work. But so the reason like I've got this pie thing that we're going to ship to somebody and it smells really good in my house smells like cherry pie. Your house can smell like cherry pie. Uh, so Dean is fucking with us. Cause basically he's like, I'll go, I want pie. And then she's like, the cons is special. And I would be like,

Jerk (:

Huh, but they show cherry pie on the screen.

Bitch (:

Yeah. And so like, I'd be like, I don't want pecan pie. I want cherry pie. Like, why do you want pecan pie Dean? She just served you cherry pie. So

Jerk (:

Well, it's cherry pie on the counter, but she says pecans the pie of the day and she goes to get it for him. And guess what? They're fucking out of pecan pie. So Dean gets no fucking pie after this whole thing. What the fuck?

Bitch (:

Yeah. So the secret word of the day, and we'll figure out is going to be pecan. If you say pecan, you can't get anything. Um, the word is pecan and I also really don't like pecan pie. No, it's too sweet. It's too sweet.

Jerk (:

Really? It's not my favorite, but I like it. Oh.

Bitch (:

Like I like I can eat the like the I can eat like the underneath the pecans by itself And then I can eat the pecan separately like you can split it and then it's okay Anyway, so pecans are where the day also there is a pictures like on the register and there's a picture of benny with his arms around elizabeth and This has the timeline of this seems to me like It seems weird

Jerk (:

Yeah?

Bitch (:

Well, like, well, he says that he's working there for two weeks. It seems like he, they just got out of purgatory like a couple of days ago. But I guess like time is like.

Jerk (:

No, it's been like, it's been time. It's been a longer time than that. It's been like a couple of months.

Bitch (:

Yeah. I don't know, but like long enough for like them to like be chummy enough that she has a picture of him on the register.

Jerk (:

I don't know that two weeks seems a little short for that, but either way. Yeah. So, um.

Bitch (:

Yeah, okay.

Jerk (:

Dean's trying to get a hold of Benny. He tells Elizabeth this and she's like, well, here's, he's like, I'll leave my number. Apparently he's gone fishing for a few days or some shit. And, but he's also very flirty when he hands his number to her. So he leaves another voicemail for Benny and we cut to Benny where he sees Dean's voicemail while looking at a dead girl's body and

is burying a body while he and then washes his hands the next day. Now it's daytime. It's like it's like a it's like a weird like time thing. I don't know.

Bitch (:

No, no, you can't just, you can't just...

I know, but you can't just jump over Benny digging. Now we love a man digging a grave on this show and you can't just like go over it. So it's Benny's turn to dig, but I want to know like he takes off like his outer shirt and he has like this long sleeve undershirt with suspenders on and like it's Louisiana and that's hot as shit. Like just take that. Why is that shirt still on? And then like, he goes like wash the blood off his hands. He's got the other shirt back on.

Jerk (:

It does. It seems quite warm. Yeah.

Bitch (:

already. Like, dammit, Vinny. It's fucking gross, man. It's not practical. It's not practical.

Jerk (:

You can't water all over it. Not practical. Well, Dean has found him and is armed and ready to confront Benny.

Bitch (:

And he asked, Denny, dammit, I'm already like in their couple zone, but he asked Benny, like who he planted. And I really liked that phrase for burying things. You planted, right? And that sent me down a rabbit hole looking up other euphemisms and phrases for death and burial, because that's what I do now that I don't have a job. And I found this list on the website, Cake, which is oddly not about cake, but

Jerk (:

planted

Bitch (:

a funeral and end of life planning site. So on there, Kate White has written about 36 popular euphemisms for death and examples. And we're going to go over a few because we don't have time to go over 36. So what we're going to do, Diana, is I'm going to give you the definition or some kind of hint and then you just need to guess like what the euphemism or this phrase for death is, right? So like, I planted him, right?

Jerk (:

Huh.

Bitch (:

So our first one is going to be easy so you get the hang of this, right? So this euphemism refers to the typical depth of a below ground grave.

Jerk (:

like what six feet under? Okay.

Bitch (:

Yes, yes. So that is the euphemism for death, right? So we're, he's not dead. He's six feet under, right? Because we're nice and we don't say people are fucking dead. I don't know. All right. So number two, there are a few different stories about the etymology of this popular euphemism. One common theory is that GI benefits paid out after a soldier's death. So you can pay the mortgage on the family link.

Jerk (:

Six feet under, yeah.

Jerk (:

Oh, I bought the farm.

Bitch (:

Yes! Yeah! Interesting, right? Like, that's, yeah. Okay, so this one. While nobody is quite sure of its exact origin, one rumor is this phrase refers to the com- as a method to commit suicide by hanging, or that in a moment in depth- in death, a person stretches their legs and might kick a receptacle placed by the-

Jerk (:

I had to think on that one.

Jerk (:

I'll kick the bucket.

Bitch (:

Kick the bucket. There were actually quite a few other theories of where the kick the bucket came from. Apparently there's much controversy over that. Controversy, woo! Number four, this comes from the flowers that often grow above burial plots.

Jerk (:

Pushing daisies.

Bitch (:

Yes, Pushin' Up Daisies, also a fun television show. All right, often used as a description for murders committed by organized crime into burial at sea.

Jerk (:

Swimming with fishes? Sleeping with fishes. Sorry, sleep with the fishes. Yeah. I can't. You can do that when I'm alive. Yeah, that's not dead. We've been swimming with fishes.

Bitch (:

Sleep with the fishes.

Bitch (:

You can also swim with the fishes, but I think you do that when you're alive. All right. There were six Diana punched a shark. All right. Number six. I'm just going to give you one word. Verma composting.

Jerk (:

Almost.

Jerk (:

What?

Jerk (:

vermicomposting.

Bitch (:

Vermicomposting is a thing that I tried to do, but then I had to bring the things that were creating, I had, yes, become worm food. Vermiculture, vermicomposting, yes, all right. And this last one, I just really like this. So this Australian idiom is possibly derived from shortening the word carcass.

Jerk (:

Worm food.

Jerk (:

I don't know.

Bitch (:

It's carted, but that don't, you know, my mate, he just, he, he carted. I don't know. It just sounds like a fun, imagine somebody who could do an Australian accent saying that because I could try and do it. This would not be successful. So, but it is a, it's a fun thing. It's just, that's a front, a fun turn of phrase for death. Yes. So, all right. So back to our show and.

Jerk (:

It is interesting.

Jerk (:

Yeah, no.

Jerk (:

It is. It is.

Bitch (:

Benny did not answer the calls because he did not want to get Dean involved.

Jerk (:

But basically what it comes down to, Benny claims that a rogue vampire named Desmond from the good old days has shown up and wants Benny to join his new nest and that he's basically crewing up his nest and is killing people around Benny to try to force Benny to join.

Bitch (:

Which I don't think is a good strategy.

Jerk (:

because Benny hasn't always been this cute and cuddly.

Bitch (:

Yes, and while he is cute and cuddly, I just don't feel like this is a good way to get your gang. Like, if I'm like, bitch, be in my gang, I'm gonna kill your mom. Like, I'm not gonna join your gang after you kill my mom, you know? Like, we're not gonna be friends. You can't sit with us.

Jerk (:

No, but it's like basically blackmailing him.

Jerk (:

Well, I don't know. He thinks this is like a strategy and that this is because also these like vamps that have been around for a long time and don't have any human connections probably don't understand this. So anyways, Benny's like, yeah, he's just trying to fuck up my life. I'm in my own hometown. I've got my job at the cafe. I've got someone to hold me accountable because Elizabeth is my great granddaughter. Surprise. And I know about Martin following me and it's fine that Martin's following me.

Bitch (:

Okay, so slow down. That was important news that you just dropped. So this girl that, you know, we had some of the perv earlier being like, can I take a swing at her and then like had Dean being like, baby, here's my number. That is Benny's great granddaughter, which doesn't mean Benny had kids. We didn't really talk about that. And that, we, yeah, and that makes me feel

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

Yes, which we haven't really gotten to, no. We talk about his love after he became a vampire, but not his human life.

Bitch (:

Right. And this feels very true blood to me. Like this is like when Bill's like Bill Compton came in and like he had his great, great grant, you know, that was a what's her name. And like they were fucking and they're like, oh, but that's, that's what's happening here. At least Benny was not working her. They're just working together in a diner.

Jerk (:

Oh yeah.

Jerk (:

And then he's like, I'm going to go and get some food. And then he's like, I

Jerk (:

stepping back and holding off.

Bitch (:

My nerd says Dean doesn't think he should expose himself and then I'm just laughing because I'm thinking about then exposing yourself.

Jerk (:

Well, Dean's going to try to talk Martin and Sam into standing down on this one. And Martin is aggressively unconvinced is how I wrote it.

Bitch (:

pounding whiskey like in not a healthy way like why is anybody like being okay with what's happening

Jerk (:

So Sam is like trying to rationalize. He's like, hold on, are we just really going to go on trust here? And Dean's like, look, Benny's never let me down. And so this is real snarky kind of like Sam and Dean thing going on. And Sam's like, nope.

Bitch (:

And it's pretty bad, like is the way he says it, like it is like very pointedly at Sam and like, it's so passive aggressive. And Sam's just like goes like bright passive aggressively back, which is the only response you can do as an emotionally unstable person.

Jerk (:

It is an attack. Oh yeah.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jerk (:

So Sam's like, fuck it, I'm going to go after Benny. And he's like, y'all be lucky to get out alive. And Martin punches Dean in the fucking face, says, tell Dean that he made his choice. And they handcuffed Dean to the fucking radiator in the motel room and leave him there. And as they're going down the hall, Martin's raving to Sam about how, you know, how their father should have been like, take it. You know, he'd be how upset he'd be. And he'd take him by the.

Bitch (:

Yeah, John, when a job would have taken you out to the wood shed and I and I would take you out to and Sam then throws him up against the wall. And so then I have like this horrible like, oh my god, no Sam is like physically a big throwing this tiny leg crazy person like against the wall, which is not good. This is

Jerk (:

taking you behind the woodshed.

Jerk (:

He's- but he's the one- but Sam's the one that brought him into this shit? It's Sam's fault he's even there, in danger.

Bitch (:

Like none of this I hate I hate all of this and he like and then like and Sam's just like get in line but Martin won't stop poking the moose and you can't just poke the moose and he's just like you can't like I just any pokes him so bad that it goes into a flashback

Jerk (:

Shit talking. Shit.

Jerk (:

Yeah. So Sam has a flashback. He's drinking a beer at a bar and a dude shows up. Obviously, it's Don, Amelia's husband, and he's not here to fight. We just in the situation. I don't blame y'all, but it's weird. I came back to this and part of her loves me. Part of her loves you. But we've got to respect her decision about what she wants. And he throws beer money on the bar and tells the bartender, Sam's going to need another one and leaves. It's real kind of weird and disrespectful.

but trying to be like super cool. Like look how mature I'm being, but it's actually disrespectful AF. That's my hot take.

Bitch (:

Cool, I was looking at recipes of red beans and rice, so I don't know what happened. All right, so Dean is unhandcuffing himself from the radiator, which takes him like two seconds, which is hot.

Jerk (:

Kista.

And he calls Benny and Benny's like, I'm not scared. And Dean's like, no, Sam's going to really try to kill you. Like, I'm not really worried about Martin. Sam will try to kill you. And Dean.

Bitch (:

Do not underestimate my gigantic brother. Like you've met my gigantic brother. He's a moose. Like he's, and you're Vinny. Like you're a dude. Like, but like that, Ooh, that fight would be nasty. Like.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

And yeah.

Jerk (:

Well, Dean's like, we've got to go after Desmond. You need to lay low. And Benny's like, Nope, it's my fight. I can draw Desmond out. Son of a bitch. So Benny's going to go after Desmond.

Bitch (:

Well, Benny won't tell him, won't tell Dean where Desmond is until Benny, like until Benny's allowed to go with him. And then we get a Benny just being like, are you in or are you out? And so thanks Benny Klum for that moment.

Jerk (:

Well, Sam and Martin are in the woods looking for Benny. And then Sam gets a text from fucking Amelia saying that she needs help and to come quick. WTF.

Bitch (:

He just ditches Martin in the woods. He just takes a car and leaves. Ah! Boy, it's a picture that Betty was looking at this earlier when Dean called. But yeah, like the fact that Sam just gets in his car and the station wagon just rives off is like, fuck you, Martin. I'm going to... Ah! This is the best part of this episode. Like, if we could just like...

Jerk (:

Oh, yeah. Martin's finds like a photo of Benny and Elizabeth on the ground. And. Yeah.

He just like fucking bail leaves him leaves him.

Jerk (:

by yeah I think I think Sam realized that he done fucked up bringing Martin into this shit I think this is when he's like what the fuck was I thinking yeah

Bitch (:

I don't think so. I don't know. Ben Martin's just like Winchester's, bad.

Jerk (:

So stupid.

Bitch (:

Oh, I want it like I just would like and they should just like have never found him and like he just gets eaten by an alligator and that's how

Jerk (:

That would have been, that'd be better than what happens.

Bitch (:

Yep, yep. So babies like we come from that to baby pulling up to the camper where Benny is just chilling with his machete.

Jerk (:

Ugh.

Jerk (:

in like a shipyard and there's they go to trunk and they've got deans like loading up on giant syringes of is this dead man's blood? I assume. OK. Because I was also like, or is it that they save a bunch of the Leviathan infected blood that also upset vampires? But I guess not. It's to be dead man's blood. Anyways.

Bitch (:

It's that man's blood, yeah.

Bitch (:

That would have been better. Like that would have made more sense. Maybe, I don't know, maybe it is the Leviathan, but I thought that demand's blood doesn't kill them. It just makes them all right. I don't remember. Okay. Sorry. Lore fell. Um, but yeah, so like.

Jerk (:

I mean, I guess both work. I just thought it was interesting.

Jerk (:

I don't know.

Jerk (:

I think, you know, it kills them. I think I think it kills them. But either way, so but so does the Leviathan blood. Tainted blood. Both could.

Bitch (:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I have a good with Leviathan good. So, but they're walking around with flashlights and this is where I just say, you need thermal imagers, man. Like you can't just be walking around these dark things without a thermal imager. Like you should be able to see this little leg and I don't know what the heat sensor a vampire would have, but I mean, they're cold-blooded, I'm guessing, but I'm sure they would still show up.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. They go into this building with.

Bitch (:

Like I'm relying the fact that I can use a thermal imager to see a snake, so I'm assuming you can see a vampire.

Jerk (:

That's true. That'd be, that's probably true. So they go into this building with machetes and there's something following them. And all of a sudden we've got a fight right away. Desmond's fucking there. Dean's getting beat up. The syringe gets shattered in his hand, but, um, and, and Dean gets like a cut on his neck. It's real weird, but as the Desmond's dumb enough to lick his hand after the syringe breaks in it, I don't know why the fuck he would do that, but okay. Good.

good I guess because it distracts him enough that Benny can behead him. Yeah, that's very odd. But we do get a scene here where we see vampire tendency Benny which is he we get a heartbeat noise and he is fixated on Dean's neck.

Bitch (:

And he is on he is and just like that pulsing and that thumping just reminds Benny of all those nights that they spent together in proctor Tory.

Jerk (:

Anyways, so outside.

Bitch (:

Do you think it's like, betting this line of things that like you're not safe, like hunters are going to come for you? But I'm like, but why? Like, why? Like, who's Martin going to tell? Like, what Martin in the loony bin? Like, fuck, like, case closed. Bye!

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's real weird. Like, why are like, why can't you go back? Because he's like, yeah.

Jerk (:

Nobody's listening to Martin. Yeah, cause it's like, oh, well, his life is over in his hometown and he can't go back. And like, I don't know, it's real weird. It's lame.

Bitch (:

I don't think so. Like, none of these things implicated Benny. Like, he's fine. It's just Martin. Get rid of Martin. You've got no Benny problems.

Jerk (:

Well, and Sam, but either way. So Dean's like, yeah, you got to go deep underground. And.

Bitch (:

No, but it's not saying, because what Dean is saying like other hunters, like it was this implication that like, yeah.

Jerk (:

No, I know, but yeah, it's the main thing, but yeah.

So he's like, there's one thing I've got to do first. OK, so we cut to Sam driving, who's trying to call Amelia. Her phone calls aren't going through. So now we get a flashback and it's him.

Bitch (:

And because it's 783 miles from Caracro, Louisiana to Kermit, Texas, and that's an 11 hour drive. So you've got nothing but time for flashbacks.

Jerk (:

Oh, yeah, that's not that's not feasible. Yeah, that's not really feasible in the storyline either, but OK. Sam's packing and tells her he's leaving. And she's like, Oh, no, Don must have threatened you. Yeah. He's like, No, I just doing the right thing. I want to give you a chance. And she's like, No. Anyways, it's stupid. So.

Back to the cafe or back at Goodreaves Cafe and Benny is there with Dean and they're like shaking our hands and Dean's leaving. And Dean calls Martin who is walking alone at night and tells him, hey, by the way, Benny was telling the truth. It was another vamp and we ganked him together. Fuck you, brah.

Bitch (:

Yeah, this is all resolved. It's resolved.

Jerk (:

Yeah, do not follow him. There's nothing to follow. It's all done. And Dean tells Martin to find a new line of work.

Bitch (:

You should have told him, go back to your crazy house. You belong, like go paint some fingerprints, whatever. So we cut to Benny driving and his phone rings.

Jerk (:

And it's not Elizabeth. It's Martin trying to draw him back to the cafe. And he is, anyways, he's grossly, he's like really grossly eating this cherry pie. It's very distressing. It's so gross.

Bitch (:

Yeah, he's just murdering the cherry pie that I should have. And he has told her that he left his phone on his bus and like, this is all, it's just creep fucking essential.

Jerk (:

Yeah, he's lying to Elizabeth to use her phone to call Benny to draw him back. And tells Benny he's got 45 minutes to get there. So Benny gets there and everything's like turned off and lights are off. And Martin has been Elizabeth tied to a chair and tells Benny, lay down your arms, you unholy thing. It has a knife to Elizabeth's throat.

Bitch (:

Yeah, it's all not good and Betty like busy begging him to stop and crazy Martin cuts her neck and not to make her bleed and like Make Benny vamp out

Jerk (:

Mmm.

Jerk (:

And well, and he knows that, too. He's trying to do it because he wants to prove that Benny's a fucking monster. He has decided that Benny's a monster. So he is going to do whatever he can to manifest that. So it's sad. And then but Martin's like, don't worry, he won't feed on his own flesh and blood. Is that a lower thing? I guess. I don't know. Apparently it is.

Bitch (:

No, it's not a lore thing. It's just he's basically spilling the beans that this is your great grandfather and he hasn't told you He's being a dick because he knows that benny hasn't told her that he's his great fan father. He's just being a dick Is that a lore thing?

Jerk (:

And he's not just a dick, he's a fucking bitch because he's hiding behind Elizabeth this whole time while he talks about being the grandfather, the great grandfather and all this kind of stuff and being a monster. So Mitch Martin hides behind Benny to tell all of this to Elizabeth. And finally, but he's just like, what the fuck do you want? And Martin's like your head on a stake. So he's like, all right. So frickin Benny walks up and lays his head down on the fucking counter.

tears in his eyes as he looks at Elizabeth and I'm dying.

Bitch (:

Oh, that's so sweet.

Jerk (:

And dickhead fucking Martin rambles on about a fucking place in hell and all that kind of shit, raises his knife to cut off Benny's head. Well, Elizabeth screams and I write sad faces and no with exclamation points on my. No.

Bitch (:

Yep, and we come from that to saying racking is good.

Jerk (:

Yeah, because now he's going to clear the yard at Amelia's house, apparently, where he creepily looks through the window. The large picture window stands in the middle of her yard, looking through her big picture window right at the sofa where Dawn and Amelia are sitting together, smiling with beverages.

Bitch (:

Yep, now this is good.

Bitch (:

Yep, that's it, being a happy couple, and he leaves.

Jerk (:

Yeah, so and we've got feel all right by Steve Earl playing as Dean drives down the road. His phone rings and it's Elizabeth. She is we see her covered in blood and crying and she. Won't tell Dean how Roy is, but just tells him he needs to come back. So here. Like just come. Yeah.

Bitch (:

Yeah, it was just kind of like sobs out was like a serical like, can you come? And he just like flips a bitch immediately into speeds back. The use being is bad to find a Elizabeth. And I want you to know that every time that I type Google that G Google tries to put my last name in afterwards. So it was very annoying typing up this episode. Thank you, Google.

Jerk (:

Ah!

Jerk (:

You're welcome. Well, she's crying and just very shaken and points him inside. And he gently places a bandana on her neck wound.

Bitch (:

You know, he puts a dirty rag on her neck and like gently places it, but he puts a dirty rag on her fucking wound and now she's going to get staph infection. So.

Jerk (:

Ah! Things like that. I was gonna say, this is definitely Duncan infection, bitch. Here you go. He goes inside and there's just so much blood and flipped furniture and one body. Martin's dead! He's not Benny! Yay!

Bitch (:

Yeah, yeah.

Jerk (:

So we cut to Sam at the same bar that he was at in his flashback.

Bitch (:

because that's the only bar in Kermit, Texas, I can bet. But it also looks like, it looks like a bar, like I've been to that bar in Texas somewhere. Yeah, it was like, we've been there. Yep.

Jerk (:

Apparently. Hey!

Looks like a cool little country bar. Yeah. And he looks at the text message from Amelia and he calls the number. And we cut to baby where Sam's, where Dean is driving and the phone is ringing in the glove box.

Bitch (:

Waa

Jerk (:

It's Sam because Dean swapped Amelia's number in Sam's phone with one of their burner phone numbers. A while back, just so he would have this in pocket if he ever needed this plan. Whoa, okay, this is brilliant and so fucked at the same time, right?

Bitch (:

Yep, yep, yep.

Jerk (:

So fucked. He says he knew it was the only way he'd get Sam to lay off on Benny. Sam asks if there's any casualties. Dean says Martin had it coming. And Sam does not want to hear anything else Dean has to say, so he hangs up and does a shot.

Bitch (:

right before he gets back in the room, which seems like a great idea, and returns around.

Jerk (:

But wait!

Who's there?

Bitch (:

But Amelia, because there's no way your giant ass could go in inside anybody's yard without them seeing you, Mr. Fatal Mikey. I'm pretty sure like the entire neighborhood saw the big old moose just like, walking outside with a gun. Everybody's ring camera was like, we saw a giant white dude with a gun walking through this yard.

Jerk (:

Yeah, then the next, he was reported in next door 17 times. I'm just kidding.

Jerk (:

Your veteran husband who just returned from a war zone definitely noticed some guy creeping in your yard. Like, what the fuck?

Bitch (:

Yeah, so that's how it ends. So do we have a casting couch?

Jerk (:

Yeah, because she saw him. So he. We do. So we will start with Elizabeth. Was played by Kathleen Monroe. She's been in episodes of shows like Ugly Betty and CIS LA, CSI New York and CIS New Orleans. That was fun. She was played Janet slash Jane in The Survival of the Dead. She's been in a couple of episodes.

repeat like ongoing character of law and order organized crime and also ongoing character in law and order Toronto.

Uh...

We've got our, um, goodness, sorry, I lost my spot.

Jerk (:

Don Richardson was played by Paul Campbell, and he has done a lot of Hallmark Christmas movies, but interesting was also a writer on many Hallmark Christmas movies. He also was, see, there we go, did a little bit of both. Billy in Battlestar Galactica, it's an ongoing character. He was also a character named Billy in Knight Rider in the 2008.

Bitch (:

around.

Jerk (:

2009 ongoing character there and episodes of shows like Days of Our Lives, How I Met Your Mother, Scrubs and more. Desmond, our vampire that we didn't see for very long, but he was played by Chad Rock. He's been in episodes of shows like Bates Motel, I Zombie and Once Upon a Time. He's been we'll see him again. He's in multiple episodes and we've seen him before and we'll see again. Multiple episodes of Supernatural, who was ongoing character or.

Repeat character, I should say, in The Flash as Clyde. Repeat character in Siren, named Chris. Repeat character in Virgin River, which is pretty popular right now, and was Boyle in War for Planet of the Apes.

Bitch (:

So what do you think?

Jerk (:

So.

Jerk (:

I loved hated this episode. Does that make sense?

Bitch (:

Well, what was the love what were your roses what your thorns?

Jerk (:

Well, you know my rose, it's Benny.

Bitch (:

Yeah, it was Benny digging a grave, right?

Jerk (:

Let us in general. I like Benny. I find him endearing. I'm a Benny fan, so I like Benny. I would say that my thorns. Well, I don't like Martin either, but because it's fictional television, I can cheer on when he fucking dies. I don't like to do that to real humans, but fictional characters. Sure. All day. And then I the level. Oh, God.

Bitch (:

I mean it's a fictional character that was portraying... you were supposed to want to kill him, right?

Jerk (:

Oh, yeah. Well, at the level, though, of the. I'm trying to think of there's a good word, there's a really good vocabulary word is not coming to me, but it was like the levels of like. Lies and betrayal between everybody in this just was very off putting to me.

Bitch (:

Well, I think it was an agenda, right? Like things like.

Jerk (:

And like, like Sam's lying to Dean about getting Martin involved. Dean's been lying, waiting to lie to Sam by reprogramming his fucking phone. Like, you know, I mean, like all this, like layers of like deception and deception and manipulation. That's what it was. Those are the words I'm looking for. It was deception and manipulation. I find that very off putting. But I feel like that's probably necessary for the story.

Bitch (:

They don't make for healthy relationships.

Jerk (:

But yeah, so that's the parts I didn't like, but the story was good. I thought it was an interesting story. Otherwise, with like vampire going after Benny's people because Benny, they want Benny to join the nest. I wish we had more of that story and less fucking stupid flashbacks and dumb shit with Martin. That's what I would have liked.

Bitch (:

Yeah, that's really interesting, right? Like you could have done this without the Martin, but it also is, it definitely got emotional responses, right? Like there is like, so I had a lot of emotion and a lot of feels to this because of, you know, the.

Jerk (:

Ah!

Jerk (:

Oh, sure.

Bitch (:

Basically, a lot of this is you're angry because people have these opinions that are set in stone that they aren't listening to facts and they're not changing them. And that is so frustrating as a human being. Right?

Jerk (:

Or open or just even open to other perspective. Or at all, that's.

Bitch (:

Right. And just having Sam being like shutting down, like not listening to Dean. And clearly to me, like there's something else beyond this. It's it can't be about vampires because of Lenore. Like you this does this isn't a Sam thing. It doesn't make sense for Sam.

Jerk (:

doesn't it's not in Sam's character.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I think that's also why it's so, this is very frustrating. This would make more sense for Dean. Why is, you know, and, so yeah, it's playing against what we know as a character isn't also like, but at least I will say this, I think.

Jerk (:

And they're just being outright shitty to each other at this point and that's getting uncomfortable.

Bitch (:

Yeah, because they were gone for a year and they don't know how to reconcile like what happened over that year. But I will tell you, I think we're done with the Amelia flashbacks. I think we have brought the this shit. She's there and we brought her up to the present because I can't take any more of a shit. I can't take any more of that days of our lives fucking bullshit. No offense, Johnson. Although that was which one of her which one he was on. But was that these realist? Yeah. But.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

Oh. Well, now she's there.

Jerk (:

Uh.

Bitch (:

Yeah, it's so proper bullshit without the monsters. Give me like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna like try and like work out some relationship shit, you need to put some monsters in there and I can then I can I can listen to you. But I don't want to watch this otherwise.

Jerk (:

Yeah, reasonable.

Bitch (:

So, yeah. But who knows what'll happen with Benny? I feel like, who knows what's gonna come. So, all right, with that, I think we'll end it. What will become of Benny, Denny, and Destiel, and will they all return? Will Sam and Dean ever love again?

Jerk (:

Poor Benny had to go on the road again.

Jerk (:

Listen more.

Bitch (:

Listen more on our next episode. Cheers, jerk.

Jerk (:

Cheers, bitch.

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About the Podcast

Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast
A Supernatural fan show where longtime fan Liz “trapped” Diana, into watching for the first time. Come along for a spoiler free watch with crafty urban fantasy enthusiasts.
We're going back to the beginning of the road and watching Supernatural from the beginning. For your host Liz, it's probably her fifth time through. For your other host Diana, it's her first. She claims she was scared. Naturally as a supportive friend, Liz will attempt to exploit this fear as much as possible. We also dive into the spooky spook in the show in whatever way we want - occult, folklore, true crime, shopping, GAME SHOWS?

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About your hosts

Elizabeth Waddell

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Liz, the maker of the Lore is a ne'er-do-well Texan, you can find her in the spooky places.

Diana Cox

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Diana is watching Supernatural for the first time and loving every minute. Diana lives in Dallas, TX and spends her time seeing/making music, going to car shows, drinking, and caring for 2 large dogs (+ the husband/Babe).