9:07 Bad Boys
Diana and Liz break down the Austin SPN Creation Road So Far ... convention (#SPNAustin) then discuss Season 9 Episode 7 Bad Boys.
AI Generated Takeaways:
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- The Supernatural Austin Convention provided a great experience for fans, with performances by Misha Collins and DJ Qualls.
- The camaraderie among fans was a highlight of the convention, with many attendees forming long-lasting friendships.
- The layout of the convention and the vendor hall could have been improved for better flow and accessibility.
- The hotel experience was mixed, with some issues in service and organization.
- Overall, the convention was a fun and enjoyable event for fans of Supernatural. Lying to children can have long-lasting negative effects
- The Winchesters' childhood was filled with trauma and instability
- Ghosts can be difficult to banish, even with traditional methods
- The Winchesters are determined to help those in need, no matter the cost The episode explores Dean's past and his experiences at the boys' home, shedding light on his character and motivations.
- The theme of bullying is prevalent throughout the episode, highlighting the long-lasting effects it can have on individuals.
- The importance of confronting and resolving past traumas is emphasized, as Timmy and Dean both find closure by facing their ghosts.
- The episode also touches on the theme of family and the sacrifices Dean is willing to make for his brother, Sam.
Chapters00:00
Introduction and Overview of the Supernatural Austin Convention
Highlights from the Convention: Performances by Misha Collins and DJ Qualls
The Camaraderie and Dedication of Supernatural Fans
Mixed Experience with the Hotel and Venue
Improvements Needed in Convention Layout and Vendor Hall
Conclusion: A Fun and Enjoyable Event for Supernatural Fans
Unsuccessful Ghost Hunting
Ruth's Tragic Death
Dean's Conversation with Sonny
Conclusion and Next Steps
Dean's Sacrifice and Reunion with Sam
Conclusion and Farewell
Research Links
- The Biggest Celebrity Scandals Of 2013 | HuffPost Entertainment
- Top 10 Scandals | Top 10 Everything of 2013 - Pop Culture and Social Media | TIME.com
- 1995 in music - Wikipedia
- Pop Culture in the Summer of 1995
- 1995 Fun Facts, Trivia and History -
- A Look Back at Pop Culture From 20 Years Ago | Vogue
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Transcript
Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. I'm Diana. And we're gonna talk about season nine, episode seven, Bad Boys, eventually. But first, let's talk about this week.
Bitch (:And I'm Liz.
Bitch (:Make me feel so good.
Bitch (:There's a number of ways you can go with that title in that song. There's so many medleys of bad boys that you can have here. Like it was karaoke at a supernatural convention. See how I did that segue into there? Sink you. I sink you'd.
Jerk (:bad boys, bad boys, what you wanna do? All of them.
Jerk (:What? That was good. Very good. Well done. So good. Yeah, so we just got back from Austin where we attended the Creation Entertainment Supernatural Austin Convention.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:coming down. And yeah, it was the first time that it's been in Austin, I think. And it's the first time that I have been to one in the Austin Marriott and it was in the downtown one. So it was nice to have things in a hotel as opposed to a lot of the conference halls or other places like the the other Plano things like hotel like being able to go up and down to your room.
Jerk (:mention.
Jerk (:like convention centers and stuff yeah
Bitch (:is certainly way nicer. And yeah.
Jerk (:Yeah. And having like nice bar, a sit down bar and restaurant on site and things like that for sure.
Bitch (:That was fine. wish that was not, I that could have been better run, but that's not on the convention. That's on that hotel who just needs a better run, hotel, bar and restaurant. But that's just me because I'm a snob. So anyhow, it ran fine. Yeah.
Jerk (:Yes.
Jerk (:I'm still waiting for my coffee. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Sorry, Austin Marriott. Go ahead.
Bitch (:No, apologize to them. took fucking forever to bring. The service was not great. Maybe they were understaffed. Maybe, I don't know. There's a lot of things that could have been inspiring. It could have been better, but it was also, I'm not dead. So it's fine.
Jerk (:show.
Jerk (:There we go. It was,
Bitch (:It was fun. And the vendor hall also, I kind of wish there had been more goodies, but maybe also the vendor hall was really spread out. So because it was so much bigger than I think it has been in the past, maybe it was like, this looks smaller, like less vendors now that we're all the way out here. I would have made the roadhouse bigger in order to make the vendor area look smaller.
Jerk (:Yes.
Jerk (:Yeah.
Yeah, it was a weird layout in my opinion.
Jerk (:I would have rearranged the vendor setup, but that's my hot take for the day. And I don't want to, and that's because I do events. I don't do them anymore. I work, my company does events and we have people that work really hard on layouts.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:Your opinion is valid. I don't think you need to justify why you have an opinion. You can just have an opinion. I am.
Jerk (:Well, I'm just saying there's there's ways to do it where you control the flow of people. And that is how things there's like people that like do this for a reason. So I bless the. I know, but that's what's confusing to me that. Yeah.
Bitch (:I'm sure they also do this for a living and a reason. But you know, it was our first time in this space. There's a lot of things, miscommunications that can happen between people setting up spaces, blah, blah, blah, blah, getting vendor tables in. you know, it was, I know we're sounding like very negative. I think I'm just going to get all the vomit stuff out of the way and then we'll just go to all the positive things. so the last like, last thorn, if we're going to be like gross corporate people.
Jerk (:for sure.
Bitch (:The best thorn on the convention was we went and saw Misha Collins' What the fuck is it called? So we went and saw Misha Collins' performance, but instead of having that at the same hotel,
Jerk (:I have it in front of me.
Jerk (:Good idea. Misha's good idea.
Bitch (:Is that what it is? I thought it had different name. Yeah, it sounded like a good idea at the time. I think it was like a long title. But that was at a separate Marriott space and that space was not set up well for this. It was, set up like I think you didn't have like, you know, your bar mitzvah, your, you know, your Greek high school.
Jerk (:or it sounded like a good idea at the time.
Jerk (:They were not prepared.
Jerk (:corporate meeting.
Bitch (:corporate reunion and corporations have reunions and Your retirement party maybe you know like some things but not something where you had to sit and watch somebody on a stage Because it was just not good eyesight eyesight. It was not good sight levels
Jerk (:I
Jerk (:Well, they had lighting issues that made my eye twitch and that was there. There was some lighting issues in the room. Basically, I don't think that space was ready for this. They were not prepared as far as setup. There was miscommunication on how the bar was going to operate. We had to take a Uber to get over there. It was not walkable. And here's my my thing. I'll say is maybe they had a Marriott relationship. That's why it was there. Possible guessing. I don't know. However, there are so many amazing quote unquote stages in Austin that it's very odd.
Bitch (:There was that, that also happened.
Jerk (:to me that they would have chosen to like, you're in the what's called the life music capital of the world, I have hot take, but that's okay. But you're in that place and you don't have a place to do this show. And I thought that was odd, my opinion.
Bitch (:Yeah, I mean, and maybe again, we don't know what went behind those seeds. And so we cannot judge anything on that. Just saying, would have preferred something else. Okay, so I would...
Jerk (:No, we don't.
Jerk (:To be clear, we're not talking about the show when we say that. We're talking about the set up. logistics and set up.
Bitch (:know that, you know, just the, just the venue and the, and the, the fact that I may need to go get, I may need to get Diana's husband head thing and go use that to stretch my neck out because I had it. I know I definitely would kink in my back and it is, yeah, I can't stop. It was definitely, I just, I didn't, I'm going to move away from it. I know she's, Diana's going to take me out. All right. So.
Jerk (:You
Stretch your neck out that sounded real weird
Jerk (:Don't talk about your kinks and my husband's head thing.
Bitch (:Those are the main things that I'm sure we have more things to bitch about. I'm sure this is what we do best, but there are many things. There are many things I loved at the convention. Diana, what are some of the things that you highly, that you enjoyed?
Jerk (:That's our main com
Jerk (:That's why you love us.
Yes.
Jerk (:so, I mean, I'm going to talk about things we did straight up then. I mean, I'm going to go right in. I just want to say that I find DJ calls to be a delightful human being. And I very much enjoyed not only we did the I don't know what it was even called, a post, the post karaoke post party, whatever, whatever that and then watching him speak on Saturday. Like, I don't know, like he and just watching him interact with fans when he was signing stuff.
Bitch (:Yeah, that's fine.
Bitch (:It was for the after -per -cary -cary -caryoke after party, yeah.
Jerk (:I just think he is a good human and that's my hot take of the things that made me happy and very much enjoyed. The other thing I think I would share that's way more general is the in the sense, I'll get a little cheesy, the... I enjoyed seeing the level of fandom and dedication until it gets weird, but I enjoyed overall seeing the level of fandom that is so...
you know, into the show. And I think that's cool. Other than when it gets real weird and I won't talk shit and say anything about that.
Bitch (:Yeah, well, I think also because it was the first time in Austin that there was a thing that was a much newer crowd. And to also to be fair, we didn't get this. We missed out on a lot because, well, we made of gold package money. But, you know, there was just a number of people who were first time goers to.
Jerk (:lot of newbies.
Bitch (:to the con and a lot of it was because it was in Austin so just I think that was neat. I saw a lot of dudes that were there that weren't there just because they were being dragged by their girlfriends like that was really nice. I thought even so I that was a nice blend. I mean I think everybody had a really good time and which is always a good thing.
Jerk (:Yeah. No.
Jerk (:Yeah, I mean, think when I was talking about like people really enjoying it, I think one of the cool things there was, like you said, there was a ton of newbies like and we've been to a few. We're not like like the con warriors like some of these people. But there was like we were talking to a couple of young ladies that were at the bar later on Friday night when we were ready to go to bed. And by that, I mean, we had had some cocktails, but they we were a little tipsy.
Bitch (:What? I don't know what you're talking about. Mainly just because I don't remember most of Friday, so it's fine. I don't know what you're talking about.
Jerk (:Well, what was interesting is we were talking to them about like, what makes them come to these and it was our friend with the TARDIS backpack. Anyways, and she was saying that the people that she started coming to the cons years ago, and as much as she enjoys the con activities, she's really there to see her friends because they all met at cons years and years and years ago. And this is their annual meetup. They pick a con and they go to this and that's when they see all their friends. And I thought that was really neat because it highlights
Bitch (:Mm
Bitch (:Mm
Jerk (:It's not just necessarily about watching the stars or the actors speak all the time. A lot of it was the camaraderie that they've built because of the fandom where it's not even like, they're not just talking about that. They're talking about life. not there. Anyways, I thought that was neat. Their friendships that were forged, if you will.
Bitch (:You know, the SVN family and, you know, the Kahn family that's around that Kahn is huge. it's, I don't know, y 'all are a fine bunch of little, little gremlins. No, they're very, well, it's very, it's, car club. It's anybody who's born of subculture around something that they love and something that, you know, they bonded together that maybe other, there was nobody else in their town who liked this or, you know, whatever, or they spent, you know, they sit in their discord and talk about this all the time.
Jerk (:But it reminded me of like car clubs. It reminded me of car club stuff. It reminded me of car club stuff, you know, it's.
Jerk (:Yeah, it was cool.
Bitch (:This is when they get to meet up. There was a lot of people who came from out of the country. There's a lot of international visitors. A lot of those people weren't there just for friends. A lot of those people were there just because they love Supernatural that much.
Jerk (:Yeah. Well, I think we saw more of that.
Jerk (:for fandom. Well, I think we saw more of that this time. Yeah.
Bitch (:So it's a mixture, so I think there's a mixture of both. So if you're ever on the line about going, like, if you don't know anybody, you can still go and you can meet people and you will be, you can be as involved as you want to be involved, let's put it that way, or as much as you want to pay to be involved.
Jerk (:No, no, yeah, of course.
Jerk (:Mm -hmm. I, yeah, and I think there was a lot of like further travelers at this one than the ones we've been to before. So, but it seemed. So that's that. So talk about what else we did. And so we went to, obviously we made it to, we, you know, had a lovely dinner that ran really long. And then we went to, we went to karaoke a little later than planned, but.
Bitch (:Yes, I...
Bitch (:Yeah, that is always kind of a gamble. We're going to do a dinner that's going to be alcohol heavy before going to events. And it just we went to a fancy restaurant. Yeah, I don't know why the lettuce and fancy restaurants, but they they the fancy restaurant took their sweet ass time moving through.
Jerk (:and fancy.
Jerk (:And then...
Jerk (:They did.
Bitch (:our fucking courses, were maybe they were slightly complicated, but they weren't even the memes. Y 'all was just slow.
Jerk (:Yes.
Jerk (:Yeah. Well, I feel like it was the mains that took eternity. Everything else was fine. And we're like, we got to fucking leave. And they're like, we'll your mains right out. I'm like, where the fuck? You're the one that made us order all at once. but yeah, so we got to the end of.
Bitch (:Yeah, I never say, like, if I want to, I don't know. I don't know. Are you holding on them? I don't think you're holding on my dishes. I don't think that's what's happening. But anyways, so we had a lot to, you know, so we pre -gamed before we got to the convention. Because we pre -gamed before dinner. yeah, I just now remembering like what we, before dinner, what happened.
Jerk (:Mm
Jerk (:pregame before dinner, and then we continued to game at dinner.
Jerk (:girl, we had it. We had a tiki drinking, walked a bottle of Rose back to our room before dinner. It was yeah, so we were feeling good until the next day. But we made it to the end of karaoke and then got to go to have a cocktail and hang out with Mr. Qualls.
Bitch (:Yeah we did, we did.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:That was very exciting. Mr. Qualls and 20 of our closest friends. And it was really great. I somehow ended up sitting next to him and then like the conversation went dead. And you're like, I don't want to, hate silence. God damn it. Fine. Somebody answer this.
Jerk (:Yeah, dude.
Jerk (:Yeah, so, yeah, because everybody was just like sitting there and we're like, fine, I'll talk, I'll ask questions, let's fucking go. So I'm just gonna sit here and sip my cocktail. I feel like there were several questions about his fiance because, know, fans of Ty, I don't know.
Bitch (:I would pay for this shit. Like, entertain me monkey. I'm just kidding. Mr. Qualls. I do not entertain. But no, he was.
because we're all, we all know he's the most beautiful, one of the most beautiful vampires that was lit around. So that was really great. And that went really long and late. And so we did not get to bed until too late.
Jerk (:It was late.
Too late. Way too late. Way too late for our old asses after starting drinking really early.
Bitch (:Yeah, that was way too long for me to not have like switched to water or something.
Jerk (:And then we got up the next morning and everything hurt. And then they were trying to deny me coffee. Well, the biscuits were delicious for the record.
Bitch (:Yeah, I ended up stealing about like a bunch of biscuits from the restaurant. See, that's also okay. I paid for the biscuits and then they wouldn't count to give me a box. So I just put the biscuits in my purse like you do. I don't know where else I was supposed to put the biscuits. So I mean, they are so good though. Y 'all like even though y 'all were slow, your biscuits are fucking like on point.
Jerk (:Like you do.
I mean, there you go. Don't ask me she's mum.
Jerk (:They were so good. So good.
Bitch (:But it's so, yeah. So then the morning started and we missed kind of some of the morning jibber jabber. Yeah, we were some of the spades and Benedict's banter, I think.
Jerk (:Mr. Welcome, but yeah.
Jerk (:It was was we got in while it was them and Matt Cohen. And so we saw that most most of theirs we saw and they were deep in the story. Well, yeah, finger gate. Finger gate. So and Adam Rose is involved in finger gate. We know this. And and apparently.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:And there is this big thing going about FingerGate and so that's a thing that happened.
Bitch (:everybody comes to Austin and get fingered, but...
Jerk (:Matt Cohen is missing part of a finger and it's Adam Rose's fault is the long story short.
Bitch (:Yeah, yeah.
Jerk (:So and also I kind of like, I don't know, they kept talking about they were so excited to go eat Texas barbecue and drink red wine. And I do understand that those things go together. But if I go eat barbecue, I'm probably having fucking beer whiskey, not red wine bra. And I said bra about it. That's how I felt.
Bitch (:Yep. Yeah, that's choice you make. mean, sometimes it's appropriate. We've had some amazing dinner, like barbecue dinners with wines, but also beers. So anyways, so that was the first thing that we saw. And then it went right into, was Misha next? I forget, like, what was next? you're right, right, right.
Jerk (:choice.
Jerk (:Yeah. Yes.
Jerk (:Mm -hmm.
No, was the ladies were next. It was our our our wonderful women were immediately following. And so that was Lisa Berry, Brianna Buckmaster, Kim Rhodes and Sam Smith.
Bitch (:And they were delightful as always. think delightful is a word that we may be overusing during this, but they were super fun to watch. Those questions like champs.
Jerk (:That's okay.
Jerk (:Yeah, they were they were super fun. They did. Is this where we talk about the question, the Q &A? I just think it's I think I'm going to throw out. It's fascinating that a one of the very common Q &A questions is if you were on a desert island, what three things would you take? Also, it's fascinating that. Or, yeah, what flavor ice cream would you be if you can only have one ice cream again? What would be those are the two questions we heard throughout the day for multiple things?
Bitch (:or ice cream.
Jerk (:On the Desert Island one, was fascinating because you we've heard it like multiple times in the day at some point.
Bitch (:Okay, to be specific, the question is, if you were stranded on a desert island with three items, what items would they be? And I have seen this question asked at numerous, numerous cons and for different fandoms and for different, different altogether genres, you know, from punk rock musicians to, I don't know, to whatever thing, but what a person is, yeah.
Jerk (:I've heard it at shitty icebreakers. I've heard it like a shitty icebreaker.
Bitch (:But for some reason, when you were on a stage, you forget that you ever heard that question and no idea what the fuck it means and go either you purposely go off on a tangent about what is going on with this island and how you're getting there and all the other questions or my theory, which I know is the accurate one is that we are living in a simulation and that that is a glitch within the code.
Jerk (:that you've ever been asked this.
Jerk (:They were very confused.
Bitch (:And for some reason within the code, like people who are famous, like they lose, like any way you get to some level of celebrity, you get asked on a Q &A session, something goes, in your DNA and you lose, you lose that question. So therefore we are all forced to sit in the audience and painfully go, what is happening? How have you not heard this question before?
Jerk (:I've never been asked that before.
Jerk (:this have you never how are you how is your mind blown by this question anyways it's just bizarre it's bizarre yeah so then we got a break for lunch and I think that's when no that's not it we went to we went back and saw Misha Collins do his talk immediately followed by DJ Qualls who did the world's serious game show which is very funny to me that he does this
Bitch (:Yeah, it was the world's shittiest game show. Congratulations.
Jerk (:I like it. And then there was a break. Well, it was a cosplay contest. We took a break. And that's when Loud and Swain did a jam sesh in the... Yeah, I it. I said it. I said it. I am gross. the vendor area. And yeah, and then we went and saw Adam Rose do his talk.
Bitch (:Ew, do you hate yourself for saying that? You should.
You're gonna have the worst dreams tonight.
Jerk (:which turned into kind of a Ted talk about Instagram creators. And the day wrapped with our last two speakers. And I know Liz was extra excited.
Bitch (:because we finally got to see Felicia Day and that was really great and she was over through Connell. And also looking at our time and we are way over our segment on this so I think we need to to wrap up our thoughts on on the 2024 Austin road so far. Hashtag SPN blah blah blah.
Jerk (:Yes.
Jerk (:I know. I know our intro time.
Jerk (:something, whatever they called it. Road so far the road ahead. Austin 2024. Yeah, we ended the night going to Misha's thing, which we already touched on. It's a he's a wonderful storyteller and funny, funny person.
Bitch (:Not, yeah, his, we're not supposed to talk about the content of the show, I guess, because it's changing. Yeah. Maybe also this, like, if you're going to interact with someone on stage, like, of gauge, like, when that's appropriate to do in the room, just because maybe, like, read the room. If, nobody else in the audience is yelling anything at the performer, maybe that's a sign you shouldn't be yelling things at the performer. I don't know. That's just a...
A train you may want to check out or just saying. Because it makes other, the thing is, is like, it makes other people uncomfortable and you don't want to be responsible for making other people feel uncomfortable, right? That sucks. I was, I was going to, that's how I'm going to say that one. Come at me, but.
Jerk (:Yeah, that's kind of a thing in my business too.
Bitch (:It makes me uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable for you, for the person who did it. And I'm uncomfortable for the performer because then have to like figure out how to dance back from like what you're doing that's interrupting their train of thought. And then all of us are just like, ugh.
Jerk (:Yeah. Well, it's an over...
Jerk (:Well, and it's disruptive and to the train of thought and the performance and to everybody else, but it's also just such a lack of awareness of familiarity. I think that comes to a lot of it because I know these actors are so nice, but you don't go yell at your friend if they're doing a performance on stage.
Bitch (:Even at just.
Bitch (:It's just it doesn't matter how much you know somebody like you just don't talk back to somebody when they're performing That's just not that is my feeling unless they tell if they tell you this is what they want They tell you this is what they want then all then go for it and that's gonna bug up my head. That's it's the karma could be a bitch, but anyways
Jerk (:Unless they ask you for questions or for feedback, you don't.
Jerk (:Agreed.
Jerk (:I don't think it's being a bitch. I think it's a good lesson. But either way, so it was fun. And then we boogied the fuck out. As in we went to bed. So here we go.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:Yeah, no, it was a good weekend. Hotel was good. And, yeehaw, looking forward to. Next year we'll be at the same Marriott that's already there. So, I may want to think about booking early because now that people know ahead of time, things may go faster. I don't know.
Jerk (:Yeah, and it's always been such a destination even though it's hot as fuck in August.
Bitch (:Yeah, let's just book it again at the end of August. Like that'll be fine. There's no like heat dome or anything. Austin is statistically known as being a light and pleasant time in Texas.
Jerk (:All right.
Bitch (:growing up, I like, I knew like, get the sweaters out, it's August. All right. So this episode, Bad Boys, Bad Boys, could be a reference to one of the greatest movie franchises of all times, which is the Bad Boys Will Smith franchise. However, Martin, you're fine. But.
Jerk (:Whatcha gonna do?
Bitch (:According to the Supernatural Wikipedia, is because of the 1983 Sean Penn movie about a kid who goes to reform school for killing a gang member. And then he has to deal with that dead gang member's bro. Which probably makes more sense with the episode, however...
Jerk (:I've never seen it.
It does.
Bitch (:Bad boys too, they filled a woman up with ecstasy and that is how they were shipping drugs and that's just fucking genius. So you think whatever you want to think. So this first aired November 9th, 2013. Remember that. This was directed by Kevin Parks. He was, remember him, he was the first assistant director on the odd number of episodes and he's also known as Parksopedia because it's like repeating knowledge of the show. We last saw him direct Trial and Error.
It was written by Adam Glass. This is his first season of this one, but in season eight, he did Southern Comfort. Time goes by, Freaks and Geeks. So like, just someone who really likes using flashbacks as a method in his, his work. Just not saying it's wrong, just saying that's maybe something you should think about that you're relying on that makes me have to watch fucking flashbacks.
Jerk (:Yes.
Jerk (:It's your favorite. Well, and our recap opens up with we've got a lot of John and we go, shit, this is going to be traumatic. And then talking Dean talking about watching out for multiple times, talking about how he needs to watch out for Sam. And then we have a small reference to Sam's Eekiel here. So we open the episode with two kids running at night in Hurleyville, New York and.
Bitch (:And one of them trips, of course, because they are running in the woods at night.
Jerk (:Yes, and they're being chased. So they go in the barn to hide and then a third kid enters and that's who was chasing them. And he's like, Hey guys, the barn's off limits. And as they're hiding, all three children now are hiding a man enters the barn. It's like guys, it's past lights out. What the fuck? He's got a flashlight and he's not cursing at them. That's my, and as in it, of course he gets a chill and sees his breath.
Bitch (:That seems stupid.
Jerk (:So we're like, shit, there's a ghost. And his flashlight flickers and goes out. And he does threaten to beat the kids with his belt because the tractor turns on. He thinks they're the ones doing it.
Bitch (:and then he threatens to beat them with his belt.
Bitch (:Which is always just gotta go as well. Your flashlight thought it was gonna work but this tractor does and then I'm just not terribly sad but he just gets impaled by the tractor.
Jerk (:Aww, it's sad.
Bitch (:Fuck that dude, he wanted to beat kids with a belt. He can go fuck himself. So I don't know if it's like a thresher or what that's on the front, like, baler, but no, a baler makes them into like a, yeah, those are like the pointy things. I don't know, I've had tractors, I just didn't, and it's been like, I don't need, I don't know. So.
Jerk (:That's not nice. So.
Jerk (:I it was a bailer. I don't know.
The loopy -doos. I don't know.
Jerk (:It was pointy, that's all I know.
Jerk (:Well, back at the bunker, we've got Sam is looking for a Dean and Kevin. And as he's about to start sitting down to read the marvelous land of Oz, the phone, one of the phones buzzes and he answers it and.
Bitch (:I also like kind of know like his like face. He's just like, all right, like kind of like it's quite I'm gonna sit down and read. look at this book I'm gonna I'm gonna sit down and read the Motherfucker cell phone. Are you fucking kidding? So
Jerk (:which is, but it is a nice throwback reference to a few episodes ago, but yeah. And Dean enters and it's Sonny calling for D -Dog on the phone. No, no, there's no D -Dog.
Bitch (:Well, Sam at first is like, no, there's no D dog here, which I think is stupid because his brother's name is Dean. And even if you don't know him as D dog, I would make the reasonable assumption.
Jerk (:How would you not guess this?
Jerk (:that it might be him. Yeah. Yeah.
Bitch (:that it could be Jordan Dean and not just go to like, cause he was starting to hang up the phone.
Jerk (:Yeah, and Dean grabs it. then so he talks to Sonny and then Dean reminds Sam about when they were children. And Dad was on a rougarou hunt in upstate New York. And apparently, John and Dean conspired to lie to Sam and sent him to stay with Bobby for a couple months because Dean had lost their food money gambling.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Jerk (:and got busted stealing food from the store. So got sent to a boy's home, AKA a boy's farm.
Bitch (:Yeah, so and there's a number of things that are like here. So one is that in season four, has been stated in that up in that season, Dean said he didn't know where Ruger was. So we clearly hear saying, you know, what a Ruger was like, how far are you taking your life? We don't know. So don't lie to your kids because this is what happens.
Jerk (:Hmm.
Bitch (:Or what else happens is that one of your parents dies and the other one is losing their goddamn mind and then your child who's left behind has no idea what is reality anymore and what's just the shit that you made up. So don't lie to your kids because they're just going to think they were off, you know, lost on a hunt and you're really at a reform school.
Jerk (:Okay.
Bitch (:same. And have a thing about lying to your children. But anyway, so he gets put in fucking reform school for stealing food.
Jerk (:Yes. And apparently Sunny also knew that they were hunters and has a case for them. their Dean awkwardly asked Sam trying to talk to Ezekiel if they're good with going to the Catskills.
Bitch (:Is everybody okay? And Sam's like, what the fuck? Like, I'm everybody. I don't know what's, what's, what is wrong with you?
Jerk (:And one of the ongoing questions now is Sam's going to ask throughout this episode starts here is why did they lie to him? And Dean just lays back on it was dad's idea. I was 16.
Bitch (:and the story became the story. This is what happens with those family lives and again, let's fuck things up in the end. So we go to Sully's home for boys, which is noted by the elegant wooden sign outside that is very lovingly crafted. Just like, homage craftsmanship, I think. And the house was also used in season four, episode three, the beginning. was the vulture farm then, so.
Jerk (:Hmm.
Jerk (:OK. Well, you know, and Sam's like still questioning. He's like, wait, dad knew you were here for like two months and just like left you here. And he's like, yeah. And he's like, no, it wasn't. It's not dad's fault. It's fine. It's fine. And we've got a little.
Bitch (:Yeah, he left him there to teach him a lesson. John Winchester, you piece of shit, So
Jerk (:And there's a kid watching them pull up from upstairs, by the way.
Bitch (:That is a little boy from earlier and he's just adorable.
Jerk (:Yeah. And so they go to the door and this woman answers it and she asks if they're prison buddies of Sonny's. But but she she makes them take their shoes off and lets them in and in Jason.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Bitch (:She just has like a large cross on, just like super huge. And she calls her, their shoes rope stoppers.
Jerk (:yeah.
Bitch (:And Sam was snarky about Sunny being Scon and I'm like, dude, you were on the FBI's most wanted list like two months ago. I don't think you have any place to judge here.
Jerk (:Right? I'm like, snarky. No. And now we're going to start with Dean's flashbacks, because of course we are in the house.
Bitch (:Yeah, he looks longingly at that couch. Why are you at that couch so hard? But instead it goes, brrr.
Jerk (:And we find out later. And we flashback to 16 year old Dean and a cop to explain to Sonny that Dean stole peanut butter and bread. And basically, he's too young for count. He's too young for his dad said to let him rot. He's too young for county cops or the judges out of town for the weekend or some shit. So this is the only place the cop could think to bring him. And this cop has a black eye that Dean gave.
Bitch (:Yeah, and Dean was very proud as, you know, I'm not saying he should be, but, you know, he's kind of proud of giving his cop a black eye. And he just looks like a snarky little kid, and he was just adorable. And, but the fuck, John, like, your kid got caught, like, stealing food. Food! After you... You still left your child alone with, like, probably not that much cash.
Jerk (:of it.
Jerk (:after he gambled away, after he gambled away the food money.
Jerk (:Is it like a scared straight moment? I don't know.
Bitch (:Maybe, I mean, man, that's just, you see, it seems excessive.
Jerk (:It still seems tacky. The cop was also like, decided that County, he's too young for County and there's nowhere else to put him and his dad wouldn't take him, so I brought him to you, Sonny.
Bitch (:Well, they also sound like that's where the judge was gonna send him anyways. So he was just like, he's like, well, I just figured he'd be here, but.
Jerk (:Well, because he's such a punch, the cop cop leaves with the handcuff key. So Sonny has to use a paperclip to break them open and notice a bunch of bruises on Dean's arms. So now he's worried that Dean's abused and Dean's like, yeah, so he asks what who did that? And Dean just straight up tells him a werewolf.
Bitch (:Which is funny.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Jerk (:So, he's convinced, and he's like, Dean's like, well, how do you know I run away? He's like, because you're hungry. You stole food. This place is for boys like you to work the land and learn responsibility to keep out of trouble.
Bitch (:So this is where gonna end our first flashback and I think that is, we know is not gonna be the last we're gonna see in this. So we need to orient ourselves into all these different places that we're gonna be traveling today. So we're gonna play game that I am calling past past, present past and present present. Yeah.
Jerk (:god.
Bitch (:So I'm to ask you about a thing that has happened and you're going to have to tell me if it has happened in past past, which is in 1995 when the flashbacks take place. If it is in present past, which is 2013, which is the present when this aired, or if it's the present present, which would be sometime around now, like 2023 or 2024.
Jerk (:Okay.
Jerk (:Okay, let's try this.
Jerk (:Oof.
Bitch (:All right. So your first question, number one.
New Kids on the Block have the package tour.
Jerk (:19 pass pass.
Bitch (:That is actually present past. They were on a break in 1995 and in the present they are doing the summer magic tour. Question number two. Bill Gates was worth $12 .9 billion.
Jerk (:you're right. That was present past. Fuck. You're right.
Jerk (:Present present.
Bitch (:Sadly, that was a past past. In the present past, he was worth 72 billion, and in the present present, he is worth $104 billion. Question number three. Public schools in Philadelphia went on lockdown after a teacher misheard the Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme song lyrics as shooting some people outside of school instead of shooting some bee ball.
Jerk (:past.
Bitch (:That was present past, I have it in 2013.
Bitch (:Yeah. Question number four. You know, like how I'm writing moments in time and history. I I think.
Jerk (:Lord.
Jerk (:Yeah, it makes me a it makes me feel old and be also did she live under a rock?
Bitch (:Yeah, but I am. I feel like I'm pulling, you know, the the pivotal moments of our times. OK, question number four. Speaking of pivotal moments, Reese Witherspoon is arrested after her then husband was driving in the wrong lane as she got out of the car against the officers orders and was put in handcuffs. She said, do you know my name? According to the police report, you're about to find out who I am.
Jerk (:You are.
Jerk (:Present best.
present past.
Bitch (:That was present past. She was briefly jailed and later fled to no contest and paid a small fine and court cost. Just things that one million rich people can say but also just don't do when you're getting arrested. Do you know my name? Yeah, I hope it was like Sweet Home Alabama level of like...
Jerk (:I need help.
Jerk (:I just hope she went super southern when she did that.
Fuck yeah.
Bitch (:just like you're about to find out who I am Clarence. All right so question number five, kid and play disbanded.
Jerk (:that has to go past past.
Bitch (:That was Pass Pass, I have it in 1995. But in question number six, kid and play play the Aretha Franklin amphitheater in Detroit.
Jerk (:pass.
Bitch (:That is present present that is actually happening August 30th and they're playing with their camps like Rick and some other people.
Jerk (:That's right, they did a summer tour recently. They did reunite for that. I've met Kid before. No, or is it Play?
Bitch (:I don't know which one you meant.
Jerk (:Tall hair. He lives in Texas. He lives in Dallas. Or did. He does lot of radio stuff and things.
Bitch (:Thank you.
Bitch (:Question number seven. Jerry only in Doyle reform the misfits with Michael Graves as a singer.
Jerk (:That's past past, right? With Michael Graves?
Bitch (:That was Pass Pass, that was 1995. Question number eight. TLC has video of the year at the VMAs.
Jerk (:Well, I it has to be passed, passed.
Bitch (:Correct, that was 1995 with Waterfalls. But number nine, Crazy Sexy Cool, the TLC story, their biopic is released. When did that happen? It did happen in present past, even though Lisa Left Eye passed away in 2002.
Jerk (:Present Past.
Jerk (:Yes.
Bitch (:Which is why there is no question number 10 because I then went down on Lisa Left Eye rabbit hole, like reading about where she was when she died and all the things she was doing. Because sometimes you just forget what happened to Lisa Left. And then I of course had to read about, you know, what did she do when she set those things on fire? Like, yeah, he really did have that coming. Like, that's right.
Jerk (:Did this dovetail into an alias thing too or not yet? Okay.
Bitch (:No, I didn't go into Leah. I really was spending more time with the Mia story, with the Mia from the Gitz thing.
Jerk (:Okay. There we go. I didn't do great, so we'll leave that alone.
Bitch (:There we go, so that was our, that was the past, past, present, past, and present, present. Well, that's because time travel is stupid.
Jerk (:So.
Bitch (:But now that we have clearly set the mood for like when they're in the pass pass, you know what was happening? Like if they went to that dance like waterfalls, we'd probably be chasing us a slow dance. Can someone?
Jerk (:Back to the present past.
Jerk (:Amazing.
Bitch (:Can someone AI that one for me? So, Sunny, we're back to the present past and here comes Sunny now with the ponytail and Sam is like, I see, sir, you also have longish hair.
Jerk (:Present pass.
Jerk (:Yeah, yeah. And there's hugs and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, hey, you know, there's, know, there's farms barely standing anymore because they're incarcerating instead of working on, you know, rehabilitation. So either way, he's like, hey, Ruth, you need to go check on the boys chores while we sit and talk. And so Tony tells them what happened with the broken down trailer ran over Jack. And he doesn't believe in the mumbo jumbo, but.
There's been weird stuff lately with lights flickering, doors opening and closing and scratching sounds in the walls. So.
Bitch (:I didn't believe anything until that ghost started touching my junk in the middle of the night and I was like, whoo -wee! And then now I was just like, I need to call D -Dog!
Jerk (:Gotta call D -Dog. So Dean's gonna go check out the barn while Sam searches the house. And while Sam is in the bunk room, which I guess there's a room for all the boys to sleep in, he notices one of the beds has little sigils carved into the wood.
Bitch (:Okay, one, they're just fucking pentagrams, which any teenage boy has carved into. Like, one probably had an anarchy A on it, and the other one had the pentagram on it. Also, did they get extra small furniture so that Jared Padalecki looked extra huge as he was standing next to it? Because he looked like he was standing next to fucking doll furniture. like, like no, no boy growing teenage child could sleep with a growing Dean Winchester. The king, the Grossman B is six foot, like I know,
He's not moose, but he's still like a very tall man.
Jerk (:That's funny. Well, he peels back the name tapes until he finds Dean's name.
Bitch (:Anyways.
Bitch (:Okay, also that name tape has just been different.
Jerk (:That's really weird. Why would you just keep sticking tapes over it? Why would they not remove them? But it was weird.
Bitch (:And then now I'm just like, now you've ruined those other kids' legacies. Like, what if like the third one that you peeled off, like Tommy, like, or whatever the fuck his name was, what if his brother, like, what if his, like, why'd you take off? Am I getting kicked out? Like, what's happening? Am I going to prison? Now that kid's gonna get scared. Like, what the fuck did you do, Sam? So rude. You never think about anybody but yourself, Winchesters.
Jerk (:What about the kid that's sleeping in the bed now? His name's gone.
Jerk (:I don't know, but there's some weird flutter.
That's true.
Bitch (:Alright, so, yes, but then something comes flying across the room and his response is to
Jerk (:Pull his knife and go run in the room where Ruth is praying. she? Ruth's doing full on. She's got a rosary out. She's not doing the rosary, but she's praying with the rosary in her hand. And he scares the bejesus out of her. No pun intended, but I'll take it with running into her room with a knife. And she is praying for them and for the ghost that haunts the farm to leave.
Bitch (:Okay, but clearly that was not burnt up until now, but she's gonna try anyways. Then we go to Dean in the bar.
Jerk (:the barn. Yeah, and there is this tractor with the front thing on it covered in blood and the wall covered in blood because no one's cleaned up the blood apparently it's just still there.
Bitch (:It's not sexy.
Bitch (:Well, I mean, the crime scene has been cleared and just left with like the blood everywhere. No, no, no, no. And you know why that shit would be covered in flies and like, see, like, you don't leave blood out in the country. There's like coyotes are there. Like, it's just, things are not turning. Like you are getting actual horror film now and it's just the horror film of rats.
Jerk (:Like no one hosed it off, I'm just saying. And he does his little, I know, that's why it's gross.
Jerk (:It's gross. It's dangerous.
Jerk (:Yes.
Yeah, it's disgusting. So he pulls his EMF reader out for a minute, but then he hears a noise and it's our little kid with glasses again. And so he finds in the back room this kid and he says he's fighting monsters with Bruce the Monster Smasher, which is his action figure that he carries around.
Bitch (:My collaborative evil! His name is Timmy. And Timmy, you're a little tiny, tiny, tiny boy.
Jerk (:And Dean teaches him how to shake hands properly.
Bitch (:He gives some shit about his handshake and I think everyone should don't shake hands like a putz.
Jerk (:And then Dean asked him about what happened with Jack. And he's like, yeah, he yelled a lot. And then the room got real cold. And now I have to go do my chores.
Bitch (:He literally says nothing. Nothing, and Dean's like, okay, that's fine.
Jerk (:Yeah. So back in the house, Ruth has a story for Sam and her story is that she grew up in that town and Howard and Doreen used to own the farm. but yes. And, and Jack was a farm hand, but Howard was a drunk and he was paranoid and decided that Jack and Doreen were having an affair even though they weren't.
Bitch (:Now the Wasserlaufs. The Wasserlaufs.
Jerk (:So he tried to kill Jack and Doreen and he failed to kill Jack, but he did kill Doreen with a meat cleaver. Was sentenced to life in jail, but just got out a year ago.
Bitch (:Damn that corn liquor. Yeah, he died and he is buried in town. And so one, damn that corn liquor too. I would totally watch this date live.
Jerk (:Well, he died a year ago, excuse me.
Jerk (:So they're gonna go in the middle of the night, Sam and Dean are gonna go dig up the Howard and burn his bones like you do.
Bitch (:like you do. So they go and they're doing their favorite thing. They're digging. Yeah, they're digging. Woo, I wonder if they had like special shovels. Like, did they just keep the same like shovels on set? And they're like, time to get your digging shovels out. And like, and then let the crew like use them to do actual work. And they're like, God damn it, those are our Sam and Dean shovels, not your like moved dirt shovel.
Jerk (:and
They must.
Bitch (:I was like, we don't care about shovels.
Jerk (:Well, it's a lot about shovels. But Sam wants to talk to Dean about being at the house. And Dean's like, I don't really remember much. I wasn't abused, and so I'll take that as a win.
Bitch (:And frankly, know, after we know about reform, you know, the reform schools and all of these things, all the stuff that's come out recently, Dean did get off. Yeah, he got off pretty good. We don't know like him and Robin did. Like, I mean, so he, you know, he didn't get bad touch. He never said he didn't get good touch. He did say he didn't get bad touch. So I mean, I think he did all right. But then we cut to...
Jerk (:he didn't get off. That's the good news. No, I'm just kidding. I'm teasing. I'm too. That's true. That's true.
Bitch (:our housekeeper doing some self care.
Jerk (:Ruth is taking a lovely bath listening to some opera. She is chillin'.
Bitch (:And she's just raped her rosary across the middle of the sink for no fucking reason. Just a weird place to like hang it.
Jerk (:Yeah. And of course, though, it is weird. Apparently she has it with her like all the time. I don't know.
Bitch (:I know, it's just like, she cares about it, like it seems like that's, I anyways.
Jerk (:Well, she's we got lights flicker gets cold and.
Bitch (:which she can't see because she just put a cloth over her head. So she can't tell the lights are going off or she also now cannot hear the shower curtain going down because she has a cloth under her eyes. So she can't hear that.
Jerk (:Right.
Jerk (:Yeah, of course. Well, then it falls on her face and then it like tightens on her face or gets held down. And Sunny hears something about like her yelling. We Ave Maria is blaring and the it's somehow the doors locked so he can't get in to help her and she's kind of trying to scream but the radio kind of covers up and she's dead.
Bitch (:sunny
Jerk (:So apparently this didn't work, the burning of Howard's bones. But Sam and Dean.
Bitch (:No, but we're gonna get a cusses place and I wanna eat a cusses.
Jerk (:Sam and Dean are gonna eat at Cuss's. It's the best banana pancakes you ever had. So.
Bitch (:And that makes Dean flashback again.
Jerk (:Yeah. So that's where Sonny took Dean after he had been there for a month and had done well. And apparently Sonny was able to get Dean's charges dropped, but was unable to find John. And but he shares that.
Bitch (:He's also like, dude, are you fucking Oliver? Like you were once again, like you were stealing. Be a better thief. You're going to get caught stealing something. Be better than fucking peanut butter and jelly. Also, you're dead. think he also has the same opinion of why the fuck can't we find John? What now? John is just fuck you, John Winchester.
Jerk (:It's not good.
But he's like, you're doing good in school. You made the wrestling team. I'm proud of you. And you can tell that meant a lot to Dean. Are you a heavy metal fan because of the things you carved into the bedpost?
Bitch (:did. But also are you into the occult and do you like Satan?
Bitch (:Are you playing Dungeons and Dragons? Also, what the fuck is up with all this salt on my floor?
Jerk (:I like that Dean's like, it's a long story and the salt's a family thing. Okay. The family that left you here?
Bitch (:Is
Jerk (:I know. I don't see a 16 year old. I don't know. I don't think that 16 year old boy, no matter how hunter -y he is, is cleaning up salt every morning.
Bitch (:I also think that carving those things into his bed don't do anything. I think he just was being a 16 year old boy and carving cool shit. anyways, he also has to, his punishment is listening to a gangster bad blister.
Jerk (:I that too.
Jerk (:Well...
Jerk (:It is he's like my son he's got to share about him being in a gang. It was like family to him and he got 15 years in prison for it for being loyal to them and he should have been loyal to himself but then Robin shows up and that's his waitress
Bitch (:And then we go, do -do -do -do -do -do -do -do, from the past present to the present past.
Jerk (:And Robin is the waitress to them to the present past. And she doesn't seem to recognize Dean. So she doesn't remember every name and face that came through the boys house. And yeah. And she and she's mom used to do guitar lessons at the house and now she does them cool. And so Dean's going to sneak out. He's like. No pancakes for Dean. He's going to sneak out and the phone rings. It's sunny, so they have to go back to the house.
Bitch (:So many boys passed through there. Ooh, Robin.
Bitch (:No pancakes!
Jerk (:Where the coroner is leaving and Sonny is very distraught because he was trying to save Ruth, but the door wouldn't open because it was locked. No, it wasn't locked. There are no locks on the farm.
Bitch (:also makes me uncomfortable.
Jerk (:and her Rosemary, Rosemary, Rosary Bees.
Bitch (:He cannot find it. He cannot find her. But you know what? I actually have. He can't find her. It's also written down. Both of us go for some reason did not say Rosary and said Rosemary beads. So damn you simulation for getting cutting off that one thing in my head, too. So anyways, they split up like they do.
Jerk (:That's amazing.
Jerk (:gonna to rosemary.
Jerk (:Yeah, again. So Dean's going to go talk to the boys and Sam's going to go look at the records in the office. he find Dean quickly finds the two boys that were being chased by Timmy at the beginning, bullying him, bullying Timmy. And he anyways.
Bitch (:Yeah, and the kids are like, unless you're a cop, we don't need to tell you anything. And look, kid, even if he is a cop, you still know how to tell him anything. But then Dean's just like, yeah. And he like pulls out his feed badge. And then they're like, okay, we'll tell you things now.
Jerk (:And they were like, we weren't here this morning. We were in town getting chicken feed. And then they're going to make fun of Timmy again. And Dean threatens to go Guantanamo on these children.
Bitch (:Yes, we also learned that Ruth was the warden, a Bible -thumping hard ass, which is also the title of my next sex tape.
Jerk (:I'm a thumping hard ass.
Bitch (:So they come to realize though that nothing is now new or different besides Timmy! Timmy! That's not gonna be Timmy.
Jerk (:And Tammy's going to try to teach them to teach. They're going to try to teach Tammy to stand up to bullies, but I don't know if that's a great idea here.
Bitch (:Dean, I mean, he says like, as long as like you like stand up to the one time, they'll stop. I'm looking at those two big ass kids and that little ass kid and I'm betting like he stands up to them and they beat the crap out of him. That is what I think what happens and then it will happen repeatedly until they are gone. So I don't know if this is the best advice, but anyhow.
Jerk (:Well, back in the house, Sam has discovered Sonny's wall of fame, which is a wall covered in awards that kids that stay at the house have received.
Bitch (:This is when my shady delinquent kids made him something. And they got a ribbon and put it on the wall.
Jerk (:And Dean's wrestling championship certificate's there.
Bitch (:Look, it's a certificate for wrestling.
Jerk (:I don't know, June right, I guess, whatever. Yeah, that's true. Well.
Bitch (:He was 16.
But yeah, it says Dean Winchester and then wrestling something.
Jerk (:I mean, it was a small town. Maybe that's all they could do is a certificate. So outside, these two bully kids are doing yard work and. There we get Robin pulls up to the house and so with her guitar, she's going to go do guitar lessons.
And the lawnmower starts making some crazy fucking noise. And so they flip it over and they see Ruth's rosary is now like tangled around the blade. And this is things that make me really nervous. I don't like it. I knew this was going to go badly immediately.
Bitch (:You know it's gonna bad, Liz, because you don't put your hand up where a fuckin' lawnmower blades are, you dumb little shit. Because this is what happens.
Jerk (:Well, you have to clear it sometimes. have to clear this if it gets clogged. Anyways, and so...
Bitch (:Clearly not this way, but...
Jerk (:Well, they there, Timmy's Timmy's watching from the window. And obviously, as we all know, it's going to happen. The fucking blades turn on and it's there's blood splatter.
Bitch (:The inevitable happens.
Bitch (:Yep.
Jerk (:And this is, but we immediately see for the first time a creepy dead hand on Timmy's shoulder.
Jerk (:So Dean finds Sam researching and shares with him that the bully is gonna need a lot of stitches, but he's gonna be okay. So the kid didn't die.
Bitch (:He's fine, just dumbass. Alright, so that dumbass kids like me, okay.
Jerk (:Yes, but Sam has found Timmy's file, and he was found in an abandoned building and no one knows how long he was there how he got there. And he kept running away from child services. So Sonny took him in.
Bitch (:But see, this is like a comic book villain origin story. Like we found this kid, he was in an abandoned building, nobody knew where he came from, you have to turn your way, we don't know he's doing. And so clearly the answer is he's possessed by a ghost. That is clearly, obviously what the answer is. And that is what Sam Winchester concludes.
Jerk (:Yes, it is.
Jerk (:Obviously he must be possessed by a ghost. The only answer.
Jerk (:So Sam goes to the barn to investigate for himself, because he hasn't been to the barn yet. So now it's his turn.
Bitch (:He's like, I want to see the creepy dark bond for myself. did you just like is there some blood on the trees like what I guess see like they're they still have a clean that like
Jerk (:But he realizes, I just gotta see that. Are there maggots yet? Let's go look at it. Gross. But he notices that there is like this access point to the attic area, which I guess Dean didn't notice or was he too distracted teaching Timmy how to shake hands? I don't know.
Bitch (:I don't know, you did not go to the HALOF.
Jerk (:No. And I say, hell no. At this point, because fuck that noise. This place is dark as hell. The creepy ass.
Bitch (:Like, why is there no, like, light in this barn? Why don't you have a lantern? Why don't you have a flashlight? Why don't you have a lot of things?
Jerk (:Well, there was a light bulb like just swinging around.
Jerk (:Well, he finds creepy little kid drawings all over the wall.
Bitch (:It is the world's most worst cave drawing ever of like a fucked up stick figure drawing. It's goddamn brilliant. I want to find this one day. It's just like the darkest thing like you can just like, whoa, like this is like, okay, so there's, whoa, this shit's on fire. Then like there's a demon coming like
Jerk (:of a fiery car wreck.
Jerk (:It's pretty hilarious, except for how dark it is and creepy it is.
Bitch (:I know, it's so good.
Jerk (:Back in the house, Dean has found Robin playing guitar and he is flashback, of course. And it's Robin and Dean sitting on the sofa and she's asking what his dad does and he moves a lot around a lot and he doesn't want to go into his dad's business. He doesn't like it, but dad expects him to follow in his footsteps. Interesting. And she can relate because her mom wants her to follow in footsteps and take over the diner. And that's not happening.
So she wants to be a photographer and see the world.
Bitch (:Her dad does, but yeah. And Dean, is like, I'm to be a rock star because I have a perpetual child or a mechanic because cars are cool as hell.
Jerk (:Because I like cars. Yeah. And fixing them is like a puzzle. And then when they leave, you're not responsible for them anymore. Which I think also says something about Dean's personality.
Bitch (:I used to say that about my job all the time, like why would I rather be a consultant and then like work inside somebody's company because once I come in and I tell you what's wrong and I leave, it's up to you whether or not you fix it. That's not my problem.
Jerk (:Well, what's interesting is she kisses him and he kind of freezes up and she asks if he's kissed too many girls and they need to keep practicing. Was this Dean's first kiss?
Bitch (:Yeah, that little husky wants to keep practicing. So they make out and then go back to present past.
Jerk (:Yeah, and it's almost time for Timmy's guitar lesson. so Dean says, you've got to cancel that. We need to get out of here. There's no time to explain. Trust me. And she's like, trust you. Why would I do that again? Because she does remember him. She does. She does.
Bitch (:She does, she does! And then we get into another flashback.
Jerk (:Yeah. And it's them making out and stone in love by a journey that was playing. And she wants this to last and he's going to take her to the school dance.
Bitch (:That's so adorable. Dean's going to a school dance. That's so cute. And then we go to the present pass. And now we're back in the present pass. And in the present pass, he's dragging her out.
Jerk (:except she can't because the door slams shut locking them in and Timmy's there and he is saying, I'm sorry and I can't stop it.
Bitch (:and the things start flying everywhere, but luckily Sam shows up! Hooray! Time for a salt circle!
Jerk (:Yeah. So Dean's got a fire poker thing. Sam's doing a salt circle in the kitchen because he gets them. He was, have gotten them out, but the door closed too fast. And, D Timmy's there and he says, I can't control her. And so now Sam has figured out it's his mom and wants to know what happened in the fire. So Timmy sells, tells the story about it was late and they were driving and they crashed in the woods. Everything was on fire. She saved him by pushing him out of the car, but the car blew up with her in it.
And I ran through the woods.
Bitch (:But this is all happening while the cave story is playing in the background. So as the story of like my horrific mom dying, then you go to a stick figure of, I'm on fire.
Jerk (:It's pretty funny. Yeah. And the creepy, the terrible stick figure drawings are being shown. And, you know, he was in an empty building and he was crying. And then she came, but she had changed. And she and this action figure. Yes, that's from her. She gave it to me when I turned nine. How old is this kid? He's tiny.
Bitch (:He just looks like he was a very tiny child.
Jerk (:So Sam takes, they take his action figure, they take Bruce and then we see the mom ghost flicker into view and she's attacking Sam. Dean hits her with the fire poker and is able to grab the action figure. Timmy's upset. Dean does the grossest thing. It's very distressing. He turns on the gas stove and puts this action figure on the burner. So he has now completely ruined this gas stove and this entire kitchen is gonna smell like burning plastic ass forever.
Bitch (:Yeah, and they all have like weird ass cancer now. They have like, they're all gonna grow like weird lumps on like the side of their face. Like there's just, there's no telling what happens from burning. I clobber evil, but not the cancer cells that I'm causing as I burn.
Jerk (:It's so gross.
Jerk (:It's so bad. This, this stove top.
Jerk (:The stovetop. God. Ruined. Yeah, you can't fix that.
Bitch (:Yeah, no, that stove just has to be thrown out. There is nothing you can do. There is nothing you can cook there anymore. It all smelled like clobbering.
Jerk (:But the action figure does hilariously go slow motion through his script as he's burning. It's bad. But.
Bitch (:But now we all figured out that it's Timmy now, so let's burn Timmy.
Jerk (:Well, it's not the action figure. No.
Bitch (:That's not the solution is not to burn the child.
Jerk (:No. So basically, Sam's figured out that mom is protecting quote unquote, Tammy. And Robin says, Fuck this, this is crazy. I'm running and she belt she bolts.
Bitch (:Yeah, she tries to flee this craziness, cause I would too, but what the fuck is happening here? And then she's like, what the fuck is this ghost mom?
Jerk (:This psycho looking ghost mom who is pretty gross looking is in the way and she flings Dean and Robin's just standing there watching this. She's about to kill Dean and then something distracts her and she zaps out because Sam is talking to Timmy and explaining to Timmy that he needs to focus because they're not here to hurt him and that a mom mom appears and throw mom goes throws Sam Dean runs in it's
She's going to squish their hearts or whatever the fuck the ghosties do internally. Squish squish. And Timmy's like, I can't stop her. And he's like, no, you've got to tell her to stop and go away. She's going crazy because she can't move on. You got to tell her to let go. You're going to be OK. You got to do what's best for you, even if it hurts people that you love. Dean getting deep here.
Bitch (:Swish, swish, swish.
Bitch (:gotta get deep. But also sometimes it's also shitty advice. You have sometimes you have to do what is best for you, even if it means hurting the people you love. So, but yeah, there's a lot you can go into that. anyways.
Jerk (:So Timmy's, Timmy's going to yell at ghost mommy to stop it. Stop hurting people. You need to go and never come back and I'll be okay.
Bitch (:Stop!
Bitch (:Hug me?
me.
Jerk (:Well, then she turns into a pretty version of herself. then, so back before she turned into creepy ghost mom and, they tell each other, they love each other and she disappears.
And then Robin just strolls in.
Bitch (:and then he immediately runs to Dean and hugs him.
Jerk (:And mommy and Dean Robin, excuse me, Robin just strolls in.
Like, like nothing.
You
Bitch (:Because now she has figured out that this is the family business.
Jerk (:Yeah. So at nighttime, Robin has been is nighttime outside because it was daytime when this all happened. So they've been kicking it, I guess, for a couple of hours. Robin has been fully filled in on. I guess they had to clean up the ghost mess, all the broken glass and shit and then throw it stove.
Bitch (:Well they had to clean up all the ghost goo and shit.
Bitch (:Yeah, they're like, they're still, that was them trying to get that smell out all day. And that is why they're outside because they have given up on getting the smell out and they have now moved outside.
Jerk (:house is ruined. So, yeah, was as she knows now that Dean did not become a rock star. And, he looked pretty rock into her. Anyways, she doesn't hate the small town diner life that she thought she would hate at 16. And so she gives him a kiss on the cheek. And so her
Bitch (:Eww!
Bitch (:She kisses him on the cheek and then Robin and Timmy go inside.
Jerk (:Yes. So Sam, Sunny and Dean are having their farewell where Sunny hates to see D -Dog go.
Bitch (:Yeah, and then at the car Sam tells Dean that, you know, he's really surprised because he really thought that this was such a horrible time. And now he's like, shit, this was like when you were like as close to being as happy as like you've ever been, right? Cause this is also Sam's dream kind of life, right?
Jerk (:Yeah, this is like this.
Yeah, this is like the this was the best part of your life, probably instead of the worst part, which he assumed it was horrible when he heard, you were at a boy's home or whatever. That sounds fucking awful. What the hell? And then he's like, no, this was fucking greatness. Somebody was, you know, you you had a life. So Dean just insists it wasn't right for him. It wasn't it wasn't.
Bitch (:Then you couldn't wait to leave.
Jerk (:So we get our flashback and it's Dean put on a tie. He is ready for the dance. He has taken Robin to the dance. They are doing it. They are going to go dance to waterfalls. And Sonny shows up and says, Hey, your dad's here. tried to explain how important the dance is, but your dad says you've got a job. So Dean looks at the picture of him and Robin cries.
Bitch (:They are.
Jerk (:But then and Sun and, you know, Sonny's. Yeah, I'll stick my neck out.
Bitch (:Sonny offered us to fight for him, like, you want to stay here, like, I will beat the shit out of your old man, is basically, I will take on John Winchester. I will brawl for you.
Jerk (:how that would go. I think Sonny's pretty tough, but damn.
Bitch (:either and now I kind of want to see this fight. Sonny was imprisoned for 15 years. mean death match. Okay so but the horn honks and that is when Dean sees Sammy in the back.
Jerk (:Yeah, Sammy is hanging out the window of the car playing with a toy and so it makes him smile because he looks out for his brother and he loves his brother. So he shakes Sonny's hand and thanks him and gives him a hug.
Bitch (:He sexed it up and I just get, you know, the allergies or my eye. don't know what those things were coming down my face as I was watching this, but he basically gives up his, what was kind of his normal little life to go back and take care of Sam because he doesn't want to leave it with John Winchester.
Jerk (:And we cut back to the present and Sam, thanks Dean for always being there and for always having us back.
Bitch (:and Dean, who is emotionally unavailable, plays it off as a drive away. Like, it's fine, no big deal. Is everybody okay with this? He didn't say that, but still, you know, he just, he can't properly process these emotions, so they drive off. All right, so I know there's some exciting casting stuff here, so let's go through that.
Jerk (:Yeah, so we got quite a few. mean, it's a for not a huge cast until a cast that's been in a lot of things. So I'll start with Sonny. Sonny is played by Blake Gibbons. He's been in episodes of things going back to the Golden Girls, Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, Murder, She Wrote a couple of times, Baywatch a handful of times, Seinfeld, Charmed, The O .C., Dexter, Mentalist, Modern Family, CSI Miami, Medium. He was on Young and the Restless, you know, half a dozen times.
Days of our lives half a dozen times and he was an ongoing character named Coleman on General Hospital over 200 times. That Timmy was played was Sean Michael Kier was has not done a ton. Honestly, he was in episodes of V and Fringe and then was there was a kids movie and series called Odd Squad and he was Oscar in that there's multiple iterations of it.
Bitch (:Yup. Damn it!
Jerk (:Ruth was played by Karen Connival. She's in more than one episode of Supernatural. She was in episodes of 21 Jump Street a few times, Outer Limits, Stargate SG -1, 4400, True Calling a couple of times, The L Word, Tin Man multiple times, Fringe, Arrow, iZombie, Bates Motel, Lucifer, Magicians, X -Files multiple times, Supergirl, Charmed, and Big Sky a few times as well. She was also Aggie in Scooby -Doo 2.
Sally in the movie:She's been a recurring character in Shmika Dune, which is current show, and Dr. Pelton in the series Snowpiercer recently as well.
urring character. And then in:She's in a couple of episodes of Supernatural, different characters. She's in episodes of Taken, The L Word, Republic of Doyle, The Criminal Minds Beyond Borders, 9 -1 -1, 9 -1 -1 Lone Star, Nancy Drew, Resident Alien, and then is a recurring character named Anna in the series A Million Little Things. Young Robin, it's a little girl.
Jerk (:Robin, teenager Robin, I guess, is Sarah Desardines. And she's in episodes of Wayward Pines, Van Helsing and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Also was Donna Sweet in Riverdale, which was over a dozen episodes. Callie in Yellow Jackets once again over a dozen episodes and Shelby in The Dead Boy Detectives, which I did start finally. Anyways, Jack, our character who did not last long.
Bitch (:Yay!
Jerk (:actually has a pretty long career in acting. But he we see him in these in two episodes, multiple episodes of Supernatural, different characters. But his career goes back to being in multiple episodes of 21 Jump Street, X -Files, Stargate SG -1, 4400 Smallville, Bates Motel and Van Helsing. He had bit parts in movies like Double Jeopardy, Along Came a Spider and Watchmen. He was Carl in Aliens vs. Predator Requiem.
He was Smithers on Riverdale, which was a character that was on almost two dozen episodes. And has done a lot of voice in like cartoon work, but it's like weird, like not the Disney level, but definitely fairy tale cartoons. So I'm sharing it to Canadian cartoons. And then our young Sam was played by Hunter Dillon. This was his debut acting role.
He's been also episodes of Wayward Pines. He was young Peter in To All the Boys I've Loved Before and was the branding boy in Deadpool 2.
Bitch (:and Timmy's mom.
Okay, so the ghost of Timmy's mom was played by two actors and that was Alika Altered and also Jennifer Oklasewick. And so it took three hours to apply the ghost makeup to Alika each day and then three hours to take it off. And so that's why they had two different actors.
Jerk (:OOF
Jerk (:That might make sense. I saw that too. There we go. It's a long time.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Jerk (:I like this episode more than I thought I would.
Bitch (:Flashback episode. Yeah, I mean, although it's interesting. mean, Sonny is really good, even though he's, you know, almost a Berlin. I'm pretty sure maybe he's just like one who's like DNA was inclined or something. you know, but it's this.
Jerk (:I think it's because I like sunny.
Bitch (:This we've seen Dean have his idyllic future past and past stuff with Lisa and with Ben. But this is kind of the first time we saw this happen to him pre pre out being on his own. Right. So it's an interesting thing to put into the the the storyline of Dean Winchester.
Jerk (:Yeah, I think, like you said, it kind of like was a little, there was some minor inaccuracies in how it really would have fit into the storyline or the timeline that's been given to date. But I also felt like it was really important. I think it really highlighted the relationship, but I also think it was a good character development. think it was revealed a facet that we hadn't really explored in the character. And I also just, like I said, I it was like a cool level of depth to add in.
Bitch (:In that whole episode, Sam's just walking around with an angel inside of him.
Jerk (:And we don't even like, no sign of it, nothing happens. It's kind of weird.
Bitch (:Nope, so this whole time there's a whole other being, it's just inside Sam and we just beyond that first awkward thing in the beginning, like brain worm. We just don't know what's there. And you know, it's just, it's just a weird thing to not acknowledge, I guess.
Jerk (:That's it. Who knows?
Jerk (:acknowledge.
Other than in the recap and that first like line. Yeah, that's it.
Bitch (:Yeah, it's just, I don't know, it's this thing that Supernatural tends to do with like, you know, like we've introduced this really big second storyline, but we're just gonna backshelf it and just forget it. But it's just like, it's so there. It's so weird that you can just be like, look over there. There's an angel inside.
Jerk (:We'll get back to that.
Bitch (:Anyways, it's just my thoughts and... But still like Robin and Dean just like... Like there's like no...
Jerk (:No farewell, nothing there, just bye.
Bitch (:Yeah, I know, I think that's kinda weird, but... I love that saying they should, like, reunite after all this time, but it just seems weird to go from, like, to all this kissing to, like, I flashback into all their kissing, now we find a ghost.
Jerk (:Yeah.
Jerk (:I mean, that is awkward. That's probably not very romantic. Well, it's like we found a ghost. By the way, my entire life has been a lie and I don't I'm not a mechanic. I fight I fight monsters. So I'm glad you enjoy your diner and your guitar lessons at the boys home.
Bitch (:and then goodbye, right? So how do you resolve that?
Bitch (:Sorry to get those pancakes.
Jerk (:Sorry we didn't get to take you to the dance, we didn't get dance to waterfalls.
Bitch (:Yeah.
Jerk (:All right.
Bitch (:Or probably I know. What are the one or two? I don't know. What's happening in 1995? Like, I know I... You're like, that's not that bad. I know it was then! Okay, anyways. All right. That's that then. Tear Shirt!
Jerk (:See you out then, 95? I don't think so.
Jerk (:Cheers, bitch.
