11:11 Into the Mystic
AI says: "In "Into the Mystic," the salient point centers on the profound exploration of life’s fleeting nature and the importance of following one’s heart, as exemplified by Mildred's secret to a long, happy life." Liz determined that Mildred's secret was staying horny AF. We dive into banshee lore and how you may need to learn to speak with a full mouth.
Research Links
- The Banshee's Comb (MLSIT 4026): The Role of Tellers and Audiences in the Shaping of Redactions and Variations on JSTOR
- "Blow the House down": Coding, the Banshee, and Woman's Place on JSTOR
- A Folklore Survey of County Clare
- In Search of the Irish Family Banshee, Her Cry Echoing Across Generations | Folklife Magazine
- Types of Fae - Discover Their Folklore and Magic - thepeculiarbrunette.com
- Banshee - Wikipedia
- ban-sìthe | Facts, Information, and Mythology
- The Scold's Bridle | Lancaster Castle : Lancaster Castle
Transcript
On.
Speaker A:On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, Mildred's secret to a long, happy life.
Speaker A:Being horny or following your heart.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Let's do.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we've got season 11, episode 11, into the mystic.
Speaker B:11, 11.
Speaker B:It's an angel number.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:Or something with all the angels in this.
Speaker B:Isn't that great?
Speaker B:Look at me making supernatural references.
Speaker A:Look at you.
Speaker B:What have you been up to?
Speaker A:What have I been.
Speaker A:What have I done?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:No, we have, like, they launched a new chapter of Women in Music in the city of Dallas, which is kind of cool.
Speaker A:It's an international group organization, and Dallas didn't have a chapter, which is weird because it's a pretty big city.
Speaker A:But, you know, so that got.
Speaker A:I went to the launch party for that, and then we did.
Speaker A:What do we do?
Speaker A:Oh, we had family birthdays, so we went to and ate at the Meat Ninjas, AKA Brazilian Steakhouse.
Speaker A:Chama Gaucha.
Speaker A:That one.
Speaker A:Anyways, with my.
Speaker A:With.
Speaker A:With my boys for their birthday.
Speaker B:That is fun, everyone.
Speaker B:And my mom got a new cat, and that is very important.
Speaker B:That new cat is.
Speaker B:Violet is adorable.
Speaker A:She is.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:It's stuff like that going on.
Speaker A:Feel like there's something else.
Speaker A:But I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, I had.
Speaker A:I had a. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:I had a bad dental day, so I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker A:Stupid.
Speaker A:But anyways, how about you?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, like, my plans, like, I'm not allowed to have fun anymore, which is.
Speaker B:I just pretty much think every time I try and, like, schedule fun, then the world is like, no, you must not.
Speaker B:So I was unable to go to Austin for the Supernatural convention.
Speaker B:So I heard it was a good time.
Speaker B:It seems like everybody enjoyed barbecue, which is like, y' all very stereotyping Texas, but whatever.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But it seems like it.
Speaker B:It was a good thing.
Speaker B:They did say in.
Speaker B: le of things for creation for: Speaker B:But in the email about the convention this weekend, it did say, see you next year, Austin.
Speaker B:So I'm not sure if they just haven't put it on there yet or not.
Speaker A:Maybe they're still negotiating a location or dates or something.
Speaker B:Something like that, hopefully.
Speaker B:So that made me feel better seeing the see you next year, Austin.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I'm bummed that we missed it.
Speaker B:This year, but we'll.
Speaker A:We'll.
Speaker B:We'll see it next year.
Speaker B:And it'll probably be like, as we're wrapping this up and figuring out what the hell to do with their lives when we get a Tuesday back.
Speaker A:What is that?
Speaker A:What are we gonna do?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:There's still a season of the reboot, and then by then, they may have, like, actually rebooted everything.
Speaker B:So that's all Supernatural will never end.
Speaker B:And I believe that's something Jim Beaver said and Misha said and probably a lot of other people.
Speaker B:So I think beyond that, just, you know, being the.
Speaker B:The Texas Snow White that I am.
Speaker B:So this week it was.
Speaker B:We've had the deer coming up.
Speaker B:For me, the deer just abandoning food now like they do, and little foxes are just hanging around, being baby foxes.
Speaker B:I am apparently a frog mother.
Speaker B:I did get them some frog.
Speaker B:I found a bunch of frogs in my skimmer and I saved about half of them.
Speaker B:But I think they're.
Speaker B:I don't know where they went.
Speaker B:I'm assuming they have all flourished.
Speaker B:They were.
Speaker B:They're not by their bowl that I had them by, or the dogs ate them.
Speaker B:Either way, you know, they.
Speaker B:They're in.
Speaker B:In froggy heaven, I guess.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Oh, and then there's a.
Speaker B:A dog that's stalking my mom's house.
Speaker B:So it's just been a lot of animals this week, which is fine.
Speaker B:I mean, animals are good.
Speaker A:Animals are good.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:So let's talk about into the mystic, which is the name of a Van Morrison song.
Speaker B:And Morrison.
Speaker B: I said, this is angel number: Speaker B:It first aired in January.
Speaker B: , kind of like an: Speaker B:It was directed by John Badham, and we last saw him his last season with the Hunter games and the things they Carried.
Speaker B:And it was written by Robbie Thompson, who we did see this season already with Baby.
Speaker B:And then he did a bunch last season, including Book of the Damned.
Speaker B:And so we're going to start in County Cork, Ireland, and everyone should be scared that that accent is going to be coming out.
Speaker B:And I think it might.
Speaker B:So here we're going to go so to Ireland.
Speaker A:30 years ago.
Speaker A:We've got a guy puts on a record player.
Speaker A:He's dancing in his robe to Will you love me tomorrow by the Shirelles.
Speaker A:And a woman enters and.
Speaker A:And starts to scold him because they were putting the baby to sleep, but realize.
Speaker A:But realizes that it's their song and that they're dancing and the baby apparently likes the music.
Speaker A:So the baby starts crying.
Speaker A:And this man starts covering his ears and saying that he's hearing these.
Speaker A:And we hear that he's hearing this screaming.
Speaker A:And she's the.
Speaker A:The woman, his wife or whatever, is like, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:And she, like, starts, like making a potion.
Speaker A:And we're like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:As the audience.
Speaker A:And then he starts this.
Speaker A:He wants the sound and the screaming in his head that apparently she cannot hear to stop so badly that he starts bashing his head against the wall to the point of passing out.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's very disturbing.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It goes from a very cute scene to a very distressing scene very quickly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then they have this scary looking spirit lady thing with fire in her throat.
Speaker B:And then she comes over the man.
Speaker B:And then the woman screams of the spirit thing to, like, get away from him.
Speaker B:And then she gets long and they do this great job of her up with all these cuts and blood.
Speaker B:Like, really, She's a very good, like, just like, small cuts like that were just like, so good.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then this weird, like this.
Speaker A:I call her Monster Spectre.
Speaker A:Monster chick, as I think is what my description was.
Speaker A:And she has this crazy long tongue and she's going after the dude baby.
Speaker A:And this woman, the woman who's like bleeding on the floor with all these tiny cuts, grabs a piece of glass, slices her hand open over her potion bowl, and the blood fall, you know, drips in and makes the monster chick disappear.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And then she says it'll be okay to the baby.
Speaker B:Then she dies, question mark.
Speaker A:It's a very distressing scene.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And we go to the title card from that distressing scene to Sam Winchester not sleeping in the nude, having a guilt dream where Lucifer is telling him that while Dean was in purgatory, he was around with a girl and a dog.
Speaker B:And now everyone has to die.
Speaker A:So Sam goes to clean guns like.
Speaker B:You do when you can't sleep.
Speaker B:You got to do some maintenance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Dean finds him and wants to know if he's okay because he hasn't left the bunker in days.
Speaker A:But no worries.
Speaker A:Dean has a case.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:And it fits him because he's in his old dead man's robe, right?
Speaker B:And he is like, I found an old folks home, but there's a man.
Speaker B:His head was bashed in, the doors are locked, but it's only 15 minutes away.
Speaker B:That's very cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, so, but what about the Darkness?
Speaker A:And what about Cass?
Speaker A:And he's like, we got nothing on Amara, and Cass is always fine.
Speaker A:So let's go.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:All right, so we're going to.
Speaker B:Now we switch from there to a park, and that's where Cassifer is, and I checked, and that is the.
Speaker B:That is the fan.
Speaker B:That is the official fandom name.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And he's sitting on a bench enjoying the day, and I'm just like, why am I so much more attracted to Misha Collins when he has the devil inside of him?
Speaker B:Just Sam.
Speaker A:Well, he fed the ducks, too.
Speaker A:So, I mean, I get that.
Speaker A:I get that.
Speaker B:That helps.
Speaker A:And he's watching the kids on the playground from the bench, which is creepy.
Speaker A:But another dude in a suit sits in a bench nearby.
Speaker A:And this looks like a very angely dude in a suit sitting at a bench because it is an angley dude.
Speaker A:So Casper goes on the nature walk trail and is followed.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It's a fucking angel and couldn't believe his eyes when he saw it.
Speaker A:And Casper is going on about how beautiful things are in the world and how peaceful it is and that he just wants to beat the darkness and that he knows that he knows they tried and they couldn't, so he's gonna have to save them.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:And this, you know, this place is a very pretty park.
Speaker B:And it's in Burnaby Central park.
Speaker B:It's a 90 hectic hectare urban park in Burnaby, British Columbia.
Speaker B: And it was founded in: Speaker B:And it's on the Vancouver Burnaby border, just west of the Metropolis at the Metro Town shopping complex.
Speaker B:So you can go hang out in this nature trail and see the place where an angel tried to stab Cassifer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Casper just snaps his fingers and makes it explode in a cloud of blood.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Although before he does that, he does call himself Lucifer Ex Machina, which I thought was great.
Speaker B:And also a drawn and moleculed.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:Is that a good description for what he did to him?
Speaker B:Because he, like, turns him into little molecules things.
Speaker B:Right, so.
Speaker B:So we go from there to our retirement center.
Speaker A:Living Oak park retirement.
Speaker A:And we've got Wonderful, Wonderful by Johnny Mathis playing as Sam and Dean pull.
Speaker B:Up, Sam has opted to part his hair down the middle.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as they're walking in, they're commenting how nice this place looks.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, man, you know, this could be a nice, you know, retirement, and maybe we need to make a reservation.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker A:Because that would involve us living that long.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But I would think that committing insurance fraud to get some long term health care.
Speaker B:Might be right up Dean's alley.
Speaker B:So let's.
Speaker B:This sounds like something they could be actually doing right now.
Speaker B:Like as a.
Speaker B:Finding a place.
Speaker B:Like if they couldn't, they didn't have the bunker.
Speaker B:I could see Dean running a scam at a retirement home for him to be living there.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And so they meet the director, Arthur, who said that he'd heard Harold yelling inside his suite to get it out of my head, along with a bunch of banging.
Speaker B:And he got his pass key to get into the room.
Speaker B:And so while he's describing this, Sam's gone into the room behind the crime take and it's just covered in blood.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's really gross.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:He's running emf and it's kind of going off, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, it's going off like weekly.
Speaker A:But it's like consistent.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And there.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Arthur is telling Dean that like, look, I checked the security on the locks.
Speaker A:No one went in or out of there.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:And this a woman resident walks by.
Speaker A:Matilda, right?
Speaker A:Mildred.
Speaker A:Geez.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Mildred.
Speaker A:Yeah, Mildred.
Speaker A:Mildred walks by to say hi to Arthur and is definitely got her eyes on Dean.
Speaker B:She's very pleased to meet him.
Speaker B:And she's very saucy.
Speaker B:And we learn all these sad things about Sad Face Arthur.
Speaker B:And Sad Face Arthur had his wife dumped him by text via emoji.
Speaker A:Rude.
Speaker A:How rude is that?
Speaker A:That doesn't seem.
Speaker B:I feel like you had a.
Speaker B:Like not a real bride.
Speaker B:So he sent her an emoji and that probably wasn't the right thing to do.
Speaker A:And because he sent her a poop emoji, not a heart emoji.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker A:That's his choice in response.
Speaker A:And so Dean starts kind of just like he's playing FBI, but he's like, oh, what about the signs of ghosty stuff?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:You still can't.
Speaker B:You still can't work that into a conversation.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:But drama.
Speaker B:Harold has quite a few enemies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so Sam and Dean meet back up to discuss.
Speaker A:And Sam has a pile of pill bottles because Harold was stealing other residents Viagra.
Speaker B:A real dick move.
Speaker A:But wait, there's more.
Speaker A:Sam also noted that the EMF was going off on all the floors because too many people die there.
Speaker B:So people die there like every fucking day.
Speaker B:Which is why this pile of this file should be a lot bigger than it is.
Speaker B:But so Dean's like, I have the files of everyone who's died here.
Speaker B:It's like five.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:And it's recent ones that are.
Speaker A:That ones that knew Harold and one specifically, it was Jack who also hated Harold or Jack.
Speaker A:Jake.
Speaker A:I'm terrible.
Speaker A:And I broke that down right.
Speaker A:Right there, too.
Speaker A:Jake's.
Speaker A:Jake filed a complaint against Harold because he was stealing his pension checks.
Speaker A:Harold was a fucking dick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We don't like Harold.
Speaker B:I'm kind of glad you died, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But they're like, maybe Jake is the vengeful spirit.
Speaker B:And this is why I actually know it was Jake.
Speaker B:Because I had.
Speaker B:Was, like, making fun of his name in my notes.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, stay away from venge, Vengeful Jake.
Speaker B:Like, I'm so scared.
Speaker B:Like, vengeful Jake is coming after me.
Speaker B:I also have a cousin named Jake, and he just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, if he became a vengeful spirit, I would not be afraid.
Speaker B:Eventual Jake.
Speaker B:Anyhow, so we go from that to the natural habitat of the Winchesters.
Speaker B:And that is a graveyard.
Speaker B:Digging a grave while Dean said, well, technically, it's Sam digging a grave while Dean sits on a cooler drinking beer.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And while that happens, Dean is gonna ask Sam who's digging about what he meant about, like, that.
Speaker A:Make that comment about not retired.
Speaker A:Not being able to retire because they wouldn't live long enough.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, I thought you're the one that always wanted to go out in, like, a blaze of glory with Bon Jovi playing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:While that song is playing.
Speaker B:That was really good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But he's like, are you okay, Sammy?
Speaker B:And Sammy's like, you know what?
Speaker B:Being around Lucifer kind of triggers some stuff for me.
Speaker B:Shocking.
Speaker B:You know, just kind of imagine this.
Speaker B:I went through this, like, super serious, torturous hell thing.
Speaker B:And then, like, I kind of went and saw the guy in the cage.
Speaker B:And then, like, it stirred some stuff up.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:It's weird, right?
Speaker A:But I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker B:Of course, I don't really want to talk about it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:And so Dean.
Speaker A:All Dean has to offer is that Lucifer's not getting out of the cage and you're not going back in.
Speaker B:Jinx, jinx, jinx.
Speaker A:So let's.
Speaker A:Let's burn these bones.
Speaker A:And Dean's pretty stoked about closing this case.
Speaker A:He thinks that they have done it, and they're.
Speaker A:Rah, rah.
Speaker A:Back at the.
Speaker A:At the.
Speaker A:At the retirement home, Arthur is in the lobby and say it wrong.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:I said all the different names.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:Mildred walks by, and he starts hearing the screams in his head that we Saw.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:And the lights start flickering.
Speaker A:And she can't hear the screams, but she can definitely see these lights flickering.
Speaker A:And then she can see the monster ghost specter chick.
Speaker B:Yeah, the scary woman from before.
Speaker B:So Arthur is just losing his goddamn mind.
Speaker B:Mildred's just begging him for to tell her what to do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then Arthur just starts bashing his head against the window.
Speaker B:The woman creature flies down after he falls out, apparently to feed.
Speaker B:And she's like, look at my dress.
Speaker B:It is fabulous.
Speaker B:And it just, like, flows behind her as she feeds.
Speaker B:It looks really good.
Speaker B:As Mildred just looks out in horror and screams.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:As she eats his head.
Speaker B:I'm numb.
Speaker A:So the next day, we've got Mildred telling Sam and Dean about Arthur, hearing the scream that she could not hear.
Speaker A:And then the power went out.
Speaker A:And then she knows what she saw, but she knows no one else will believe her.
Speaker A:But she knows because she saw a ghost 10 years ago.
Speaker B:I know what I saw.
Speaker B:This is not my first supernatural rodeo.
Speaker B:I saw a ghost.
Speaker B:Nobody believes me, but I know what I saw.
Speaker B:I know what I saw.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But luckily, she has finally found her right audience for her tales.
Speaker B:And she is so much safer with Agent Osborne RIP Looking after her.
Speaker B:So much safer.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so Dean's going to reassure her, and they're going to hold hands.
Speaker A:And as that's happening, Sam's starting to notice this housekeeping chick who seems to be kind of trying to eavesdrop or watch them across the room.
Speaker A:So Sam is going.
Speaker A:Wants to hear what Ms. Baker.
Speaker A:Mildred Baker saw.
Speaker A:And she describes the woman with long, flowing hair and a, you know, red robe, robes, and sunken eyes, and that she was feeding on Arthur's head.
Speaker A:Sam steps away and goes to talk to the housekeeping woman, Marlene, who he discovers is deaf.
Speaker A:And she apparently was not working the night before, and she was not working the night that Harold died.
Speaker A:And so he.
Speaker A:And he does some light signing.
Speaker A:And she is very appreciative.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, he does not sign.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker B:Like, he thinks he signs.
Speaker B:He actually signs the word.
Speaker B:And that is something that Jared and Shoshana came up with together.
Speaker B:So it is cute.
Speaker B:And it's really funny.
Speaker B:They don't bleep on, you know, with.
Speaker B:With hands.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So Sam and Dean then chat about how it's not a ghost because ghosts don't feed on heads.
Speaker B:And Sam is gonna check with the coroner to see if anything was missing from Harold's brain and is hoping that they can get their walking dead on.
Speaker B:But, oh, the house cleaner is reading Their lips.
Speaker B:Duh.
Speaker B:Because if you could read lips, what the else would you be doing with your goddamn time except reading everybody's lips?
Speaker A:Everybody's lips.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And she sees them talking about a feeding sus.
Speaker A:So Sam goes and talks on the phone to the corner and he has the word that part of Harold's frontal lobe was missing.
Speaker B:And that's interesting, right?
Speaker B:She only was eating the frontal lobe.
Speaker B:And so the frontal lobe is where you manage your thinking, your emotions, your personality, your judgment, self control and your memory storage and muscle control movements.
Speaker B:A lot of things happen.
Speaker B:Like, I'm just pointing to, like somewhere in my head.
Speaker B:Somewhere in here is right in there.
Speaker B:I've got a lobe in here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Dean's response, Banshees.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:And Sam's like, hold up.
Speaker B:I thought banshees were good.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, well, those that are tied to fairy lore are.
Speaker B:But these guys, they're total dick bags.
Speaker B:And so he hands on this tablet and Sam is looking at the ancient origin site, which is still up, but has a different picture on it.
Speaker B:And Dean describes how the banshees screams forces the victim to crack open their head so that their meal is prepared.
Speaker B:Which is smart because that way she doesn't have to mess up her nails and.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or her dress getting like all the brain gushes over.
Speaker B:It's like you just do it for yourself.
Speaker B:And then I just come in and politely eat, you know?
Speaker B:And so they.
Speaker B:He says that they're all the victims are the only ones who can hear them.
Speaker B:They travel through mist and they prey on the vulnerable.
Speaker B:They only hunt at night and they can be killed with the gold blade.
Speaker B:So how much of this is true?
Speaker B:Let's talk about that.
Speaker B:Let's talk about lore.
Speaker B:This is the.
Speaker B:I was not looking forward to researching banshees.
Speaker B:One, I was very much traumatized by the banshee in Darby o' Gill and the Little People as a child.
Speaker B:I refused to watch it to see if it's still terrifying, because I bet it is.
Speaker B:Two, I also thought banshees are kind of boring.
Speaker B:I mean, a woman screams and then someone dies.
Speaker B:But once I cracked ye olde Internet and 22 pages of notes later, I did find out some cracking stories about the banshees.
Speaker B:Irish things I did there.
Speaker B:So the word banshee, I also was not looking for this because the Gaelic in the Irish.
Speaker B:So the word banshee comes from the Irish, which looks nothing like it sounds because they don't like vowels or how making things phonetic and so it translates to the fairy woman, or woman of the fairy mounds, or woman of the other world.
Speaker B:She's not quite a psychopomp, but she is what somebody called a supernatural death messenger.
Speaker B:Title, my next album.
Speaker B:So she straddles the world of the living and the dead.
Speaker B:Her message of death often comes as wailing, screaming or crying.
Speaker B:She prefers being alone and outside.
Speaker B:If she comes near a house, though, then all hell breaks loose.
Speaker B:Often her visitations are accompanied by other haunting phenomenon, like lights with flickering sounds, tapping, knocking, etc.
Speaker B:So she's got a whole bunch of different names all over.
Speaker B:Mainly, like, she's mainly Ireland, Scotland.
Speaker B:Kind of, you know, Celtic.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So in Southern Ireland, she is known as the Ban.
Speaker B:I was gonna say that.
Speaker B:Or the washing woman, as she sometimes appears at streams washing clothes as a warning of a person's pending death.
Speaker B:Sometimes she is seen washing the linens of the person who is about to die, which I think is nice because everybody likes clean sheets, especially if you're sick.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They just feel good.
Speaker B: So this is from JG Campbell's: Speaker B:So blame them for what I'm about to tell you.
Speaker B:In Mole and Tyree, she is said to have preternaturally long breasts, which are in the way as she stoops at her washing, and so she throws them over her shoulder.
Speaker B:Whoever sees her must not turn away, but seal up behind her and catch one of her breasts and put it in his mouth.
Speaker B:He should then call her to witness that she is his first wet nurse.
Speaker B:She answers that he has need of that being the case and will then communicate whatever he desires.
Speaker B:He can then tell her to continue washing if the shirt is that of an enemy or.
Speaker B:Or tell her to stop if it belongs to a friend or family member.
Speaker A:Just doing.
Speaker A:They have to say all that with the tit in their mouth?
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker B:So addition to that, Campbell goes on to say that in sky, which is land of my people, that she is said to be squat and not like a small pitiful child.
Speaker B:In the Highlands, she's said to be small and round and dressed in green.
Speaker B:And by moonlight she spreads the linen of those about to die.
Speaker B:And if you want to catch her, if you get the linen and the stream, then you can control her and do make her do your bidding.
Speaker B:Which basically is that the banshees know, like, when you're about who's gonna die when.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So if you catch them, then they will tell you, like, your.
Speaker B:Basically your future.
Speaker B:There is A Scottish variant, the Weeper.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:There's a Gaelic name for that.
Speaker B:Not going there.
Speaker B:That was often heard but never seen.
Speaker B:She is said to have been there the night the camel slaughter.
Speaker B: The McDonald's at Glencoe in: Speaker B:Very famous Scottish battle.
Speaker B:Other descriptions of banshees include.
Speaker B:So there's kind of like variations on her, right?
Speaker B:Sometimes she's ugly, sometimes she's beautiful.
Speaker B:Sometimes she's dressed in a white cloak with red shoes and long white hair.
Speaker B:Often combing her hair with her red comb.
Speaker B:Sometimes she's a small woman with long golden hair and a little plaid shawl.
Speaker B:Sometimes she's a small woman dressed in red.
Speaker B:Sometimes she's a beautiful lady with more flowing hair.
Speaker B:Sometimes she's a tall, thin woman with long brown hair with a red dress with a red cloak covering her head.
Speaker B:So lots of variations.
Speaker B:Is basically a woman.
Speaker B:She can be tall, she could be small, she's got long hair, though.
Speaker A:They all agree on that.
Speaker B:They all agree.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And when I read somewhere that was interesting because, like, a respectable Irish women always had their hair up and covered.
Speaker B:And so, like, what there was some implication to.
Speaker B:Of the hair being down.
Speaker B:Just kind of what it says about her as a being, whatever.
Speaker B:And also that she's often associated with that comb.
Speaker B:And there's a lot of stories about the fate of those who steal their comb or just find it.
Speaker B:They also often talk about how she's got this powerful grip.
Speaker B:And Bettina Kempton.
Speaker B:I love the name Patina.
Speaker B:She sounds like a Muppet.
Speaker B:Bettina Kimpton tells the imprint of the banshee's five fingers in her article Blow the House Down, Coding the Banshee and Women's Place.
Speaker B:So she says Thomas Hart's uncle was coming home late from his.
Speaker B:I looked at this word, I looked at how to say it in, like, five different Irish dialects, and I still don't know.
Speaker B:We are cured.
Speaker B:So he's.
Speaker B:So Thomas Hart's uncle was coming home and he came in near his home and he didn't see there was a woman, right?
Speaker B:He sees a woman.
Speaker B:He thought it was some neighboring woman that he knows.
Speaker B:Over he goes and he claps his hand on her shoulder.
Speaker B:The very minute he did, she raised her hand and caught him by the crown of the head and lifted him clear up off the road.
Speaker B:And she hit him down against the ground again, but did not kill him.
Speaker B:He got a terrible fright and may God bless us and save us all.
Speaker B:When he got up in the morning, the print of her five fingers was on top of his head and his hair has turned as white as snow from the dent of the fright.
Speaker B:So I think the story of that is, don't touch small, strange ladies or they're gonna pick you up by the head and beat the out of you.
Speaker B:Like, just like it.
Speaker B:Don't touch the women you don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I call this next section, why it always got to be the English.
Speaker B:All right, so in.
Speaker B:In Limerick, Kil, Killney and Tipperay, she has another name that I won't say, but it still starts with band and.
Speaker B:But that's also known as the keening woman.
Speaker B:So keening was a Gaelic Celtic mourning ritual in which women would wail over the deceased bodies during the wake.
Speaker B:They would scream, cry, beat their chest, pull out their hair.
Speaker B:And the English thought that this practice was barbaric and a sign of Irish inferiority.
Speaker B: s of Irish Catholicism in the: Speaker B:But it's still something that is very much associated with.
Speaker B:With the banshee.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:There is also part of this legend that only the quote unquote, pure Irish could be warned by the banshee.
Speaker B:This section comes from Delaney Mars in an article for Smithsonian center for Folk Life and Cultural Heritage.
Speaker B:One of the hussies.
Speaker B:Now, their name is spelled H, U S S E Y s. And I know it's not pronounced hussies, but that's what you're getting called.
Speaker A:We're going with it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So one of the hussies in the town of Dingle was dying.
Speaker B:As always, the banshee began her crying on her way to the house of the dying.
Speaker B:She passed through John street, lined with small houses whose families were thrown into a fright when they heard her mumbling to one another, is one of us to die.
Speaker B:The banshee paused her crying and spoke to them in verse.
Speaker B:Listen, listen, you hoarding traders, you were not in danger.
Speaker B:A banshee has never keened your kind.
Speaker B:She resumed her keening cry.
Speaker B:And in the morning, the news arrived.
Speaker B:A hussy had died.
Speaker B:So the hussies, though, is an angle is.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:It's a dead hussy of dingle.
Speaker B:There's a dead hussy and dingle.
Speaker B:So I think you write that one down.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So the hussies, their name, though, is actually an anglicization of a older Irish name that starts with an O.
Speaker B:And I'm not.
Speaker B:I can't pronounce.
Speaker B:And so they are among those often so These older Irish people are the O's and the maximum.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So the O', Connors, the McDonald's, the McGregor's, the whatever, the people of the Freckles.
Speaker B:And each name of these old Irish lines has its own.
Speaker B:Is supposed to have its own banshee that serves it.
Speaker B:So, like, each family has, like, their own particular one.
Speaker B:And like I said, they're supposed to be solitary creatures.
Speaker B:But there are stories of, like, some of the banshees, like, commanding other banshees and.
Speaker B:And not, you know, not to be.
Speaker B:You know, forget that.
Speaker B:You know, she's a ban.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:And she really means fay.
Speaker B:It's fairy.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So having the idea of, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, so she's like a fairy queen.
Speaker B:So they've often, like, the banshees have often been, like, fairy queens as well.
Speaker B:So her having, like, a banshee who could be in command of other banshees, like, okay, that actually kind of makes sense.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they would like, all have names.
Speaker B:And like, one of the.
Speaker B:The o' Brien's Banshee and County Clare, her name was Ava or Eva.
Speaker B:So when the English arrived and took land, like the English do, in an attempt to fit in, they too would be like, I have a banshee.
Speaker B:I'm like, sure, Richard.
Speaker B:Like, you do not have, like, you don't have your own banshee, Richard.
Speaker B:Like, everyone knows no one's called screaming outside your window.
Speaker B:You can pretend like you're hearing it, but no, Richard, we know.
Speaker B:So they also think that they.
Speaker B:But there's a theory that the connection to the Irish family lines may be a way to try and reconnect to Irish sovereignty, as they would only come for those with, like, really deep Irish roots.
Speaker B:And also, it's a majority of the appearances were for the senior male members of the household, which was really emphasizing that patriarchal line of.
Speaker B:Of the last name.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So we're coming from the, you know, I was going to say the McGuires, but the, you know, they're Maguires.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But I'm coming from the McDonald's.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker B:They also.
Speaker B:There are some exceptions to the Irish family only.
Speaker B:Rule 1 is said that a banshee may lament those who were gifted with music and song, particularly those who sang for, you know, for Ireland.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And again, this goes to the nationalism part or also just those who are being super Irish and wearing a Kiss me an Irish shirt will not cut it.
Speaker B:Like, you have to be, like, doing something super hardcore for Ireland, for the banshee to sing for You.
Speaker B:There are some theories that the Banshees, like, where they originated from, that they could be the spirit of a woman who lost her family tragically and forevermore scorns them.
Speaker B:So a woman of white situation.
Speaker B:Or there's also a belief that she could be the result of an unbaptized child who died and basically became a soul caught in, like, purgatory.
Speaker A:Purgatory.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But also, like I said, she's a fairy.
Speaker B:So why.
Speaker B:Why you gotta say she's like that for?
Speaker B:You know, why you gotta do that?
Speaker B:So last thing that was of kind of one of the.
Speaker B:The traits that Dean listed.
Speaker B:Freaks come out at night.
Speaker B:Some accounts say that she appears at midnight, the night before a person dies.
Speaker B:Other, it's the two lights in the evening, but off.
Speaker B:It's basically that in between time, you know, the witching hours either, like between three and four, you.
Speaker B:That type of stuff.
Speaker B:So she don't like the daytime.
Speaker B:You know, she's a nighttime girl and she doesn't want to be around people.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I'm more pro Banshee.
Speaker B:I mean, the law of, like, throwing my titty over my shoulder and having somebody suck it while I, like, they, like, try and get.
Speaker A:While you wash their sheets, while I'm doing their laundry.
Speaker B:I mean, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, so that is the story of the Banshee.
Speaker B:Somehow.
Speaker B:That somehow.
Speaker B:Somehow the titty part didn't make it into this episode of Supernatural.
Speaker B:But, you know, there's always the reboot.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Well, so back.
Speaker B:Back in.
Speaker B:Back in British Columbia, but back in an Oak Park.
Speaker B:Dean is driven off while the cleaner Marlene watches him drive off.
Speaker B:And we're gonna go from there to the bunker.
Speaker A:Yes, because he's got to go get gold blades from the bunker because that's the one thing that he didn't have in Baby, apparently.
Speaker A:So he gets there, and if you.
Speaker B:Had a go bag for Banshees, then.
Speaker A:You would just be, you know, if you need a Banshee specific go bag.
Speaker A:Well, so he hears a noise and this has to search the bunker and finds Cassifer.
Speaker A:But he thinks it's just Cass because he doesn't know and making just a mess in, like, the card catalog room and, like, files.
Speaker A:It's messy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is also not the first time this season or maybe last where they got into the bunker.
Speaker B:And then we're surprised.
Speaker B:And like, I know this is pre, like, Nest cameras and.
Speaker B: u have gotta have, like, some: Speaker B:Can you not, like, not, like, look at this before you start blindly walking down a hallway.
Speaker B:Because it seems really dangerous to be walking down a hallway blindly.
Speaker A:And isn't this place, like, super, like, guarded with, like, sigils?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And isn't there, like, only certain ways you can get in?
Speaker A:And, like, I don't know.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's very questionable.
Speaker A:But whatever.
Speaker A:So fix your security.
Speaker B:We don't like your opsec, Dean.
Speaker A:Terrible opsec.
Speaker A:So Dean calls him out and cast.
Speaker A:Cassifer is apologizing, but he is looking for a spell to call Amara out, but has been unsuccessful in locating one.
Speaker A:And comments that he had had her in his sights when she was injured and he should have ended it this.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I can relate.
Speaker A:Saying kill her is one thing.
Speaker A:Doing it is actually something different.
Speaker A:And Casper's like, wait, what do you mean?
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:He's like, wait, what?
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, I've had, like, two shots now, and I just couldn't do it.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:And Cassifer is just trying.
Speaker B:Well, he's like, wait, what is he doing?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And I really love.
Speaker B:I love watching Lucifer try to figure out what the.
Speaker B:Has happened.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker B:But without like.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:He does it so well that he's just like, why don't you tell me everything?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Pour your heart out, Dean.
Speaker A:It's just me.
Speaker B:A good old chaos cry on my shoulder.
Speaker B:Just like the old days.
Speaker B:So while that's happening, we go to Oak park, where Sam has gone into Mildred's room, and she just wants to know where Dean is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She's like, that's you.
Speaker A:But we notice a poster on the wall behind her, and it says, it is a Patsy Klein tribute band playing at Green hall in Texas.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what Mildred used to do.
Speaker A:It was really cool.
Speaker A:She talks about it again, but we get that little tidbit about Mildred right here.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, btw, we are not actually the FBI.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They decide they're going clean with Mildred.
Speaker B:Mildred gets to be let in on the stage secret.
Speaker B:All right, Mildred.
Speaker B:Here you go.
Speaker A:Here you go.
Speaker A:He's like, we're brothers that hunt monsters.
Speaker A:It's just, like, so, like, I don't know.
Speaker B:And she, like, takes this so well.
Speaker B:And she's like, I knew ghosts were real.
Speaker B:I knew what I saw.
Speaker A:And you're too cute to be FBI.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He's like, okay, thanks, btw, how does this look like what you saw before?
Speaker A:And she's like, oh, yeah.
Speaker A:That's exactly what I saw.
Speaker A:And he's like, that's not great news because apparently you have a heart thing, and so now you're vulnerable, and it's coming for you next.
Speaker B:She has an arrhythmia.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:How does that make her vulnerable?
Speaker A:That's the most vulnerable person in this retirement home.
Speaker B:Are you kidding me?
Speaker B:And she's like, and you can take medication for it.
Speaker B:Like, you just.
Speaker B:Like, it's just a heart.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But that's what they think.
Speaker B:So the.
Speaker B:They also, like.
Speaker B:Sam's like, remember, the Banshee only hunts at night, so we got this time that you can take a nap.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we're totally gonna protect you.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:And he's like, also, by the way, do you know that deaf housekeeper chick named Marlene?
Speaker A:And she's like, marlene's on vacation.
Speaker A:I don't know who you're talking about, but it'd be really cool if there was a deaf deaf person working here, because I want to practice because I've got a grandkid.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's got a grandkid who's deaf, and she wants to.
Speaker B:To practice her signing.
Speaker B:So out in the hallway, Sam goes looking for, quote, unquote, Marlene, who is now doing an excellent job of dodging him.
Speaker B:And she's just like, you can't see me.
Speaker B:And then he follows her into the laundry room, where apparently there is a new thing we have left.
Speaker B:Learned.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's sigils on the wall, and she is going to use one to pin Sam to a giant washing tank.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And so this is a Celtic sigil.
Speaker B:And we now get to see not just the flinging.
Speaker B:You know, and I was thinking about this.
Speaker B:You said, not only have we got to experience some excellent flinging of people this episode, but now we also get to witness the gorgeous acting of Jared Padalecki of I am pinned against a.
Speaker B:A tank.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:My arms, but I keep forgetting I can move them.
Speaker B:Sometimes I move my arms, but I'm pinned against the machine or the take, you know?
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:I think they're the finest supernatural acting time when they have to do that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But we also learned that, quote, unquote, Marlene has misunderstood and thinks that they are the Banshees.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:She does not believe.
Speaker A:She thinks the FBI thing is a cover for kills, and she has her gold blade.
Speaker A:And she definitely has never met a man Banshee before, but she also definitely saw de reference feeding Time.
Speaker B:Do you think it has to be a, like, all the wiggle blade or like gold plated?
Speaker B:Because I think a whole gold knife would be really heavy.
Speaker A:Well, would it?
Speaker A:I thought gold wasn't heavy.
Speaker A:I don't know either.
Speaker B:What was?
Speaker B:The gold bars, they always show, like, that being heavy, right?
Speaker B:Like, I don't know, fly into my DMs if you have a pile of gold and tell me how hot, like how heavy.
Speaker A:Or you can just send me the gold and I can send me a knife made of gold.
Speaker B:Send some craftsman knife made of gold.
Speaker A:I just need a knife of gold, that's all.
Speaker A:No big deal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I'll settle for some more follows.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:He's like, no, hold on.
Speaker A:We are hunters, not Banshees.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:Me and my brother.
Speaker A:We're.
Speaker A:We're just.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker A:We're all hunting the same Banshee.
Speaker A:Cut me.
Speaker A:Cut my hand.
Speaker A:I'll prove it.
Speaker A:And she cuts the.
Speaker A:Out of his hand.
Speaker B:All right, fine.
Speaker B:I'll make you bleed.
Speaker B:And then she's like, fine.
Speaker B:And she frees him from the sigil.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And her name is Eileen Leahy.
Speaker A:And a banshee killed her parents.
Speaker A:The ones from the intro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we flashback and we get to see that also when that happened, that the banshee, screaming, basically busted her ears.
Speaker A:And her ears are bleeding.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And apparently a fun.
Speaker A:A hunter that was hunting the banshee found her and raised her and trained her until she was 15.
Speaker A:And then the hunter got killed.
Speaker A:And then now she just likes to.
Speaker B:Work alone because she has trust issues.
Speaker B:I hear you.
Speaker B:But then we also find out that her mom's dad was a member of this, like, debunked organization.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:You're Men of Letters.
Speaker B:I'm a Men of Letters.
Speaker B:You're a bit of Letters.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:We're legacies.
Speaker B:They have to let us in.
Speaker B:We don't even have to rush, so.
Speaker A:And it was.
Speaker A:It was bid week for a lot of folks this week, so good timing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker A:So Dean is still talking to Casper while all this has been discovered.
Speaker A:And Casper is like, oh, y' all are tied together and, like, connected by the mark.
Speaker A:That has to be it.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But it's also more than that.
Speaker A:And yes.
Speaker A:And Casper's like, are you attractive?
Speaker A:And this is when they just kind of make eyes at each other for a minute.
Speaker A:Because Dean doesn't really want to say it, but he obviously is attracted.
Speaker B:But Cassifer's like, but what if.
Speaker B:Was he still.
Speaker B:Am I supposed to be dead?
Speaker B:Like, cast, like, attracted to Dean?
Speaker B:So what am I playing here?
Speaker B:What is my motivation?
Speaker A:It's a lot of eyes back and forth, and they're judging and they're not, and it's a whole thing.
Speaker A:And it's attraction and connection, and it's traction and connection with Amara, and it's a whole thing.
Speaker B:Can't resist it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then Cassifer puts his.
Speaker B:His hand on Dean's shoulder, and he's just like, maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker B:We can draw her out.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, what's happening?
Speaker A:And then his phone rings, and Sam has called Dean and says, hey, go look up Edward Durbin II in the Men of Letters files.
Speaker A:You gotta.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And they find his.
Speaker A:His file right away.
Speaker A:And apparently, thankfully, this is not the part of the.
Speaker B:The bunker that Lucifer threw everything on the ground.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So they were actually able to find.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker A:So Sam is now in.
Speaker A:Back in Mildred's room, and Mildred is signing and Eileen are signing.
Speaker A:Mildred and Eileen are signing to each other in the background during this whole conversation.
Speaker A:And really funny.
Speaker A:So it's hard to go bounce back and forth.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna.
Speaker A:But I'm gonna go to their conversation first.
Speaker A:So while Sam's on the phone with Dean, Mildred's signing Dilene.
Speaker A:That, like, hey, I've got dibs on the other one, meaning Dean.
Speaker A:And you can take the tall one.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm not a mountain climber anymore.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Mildred is a straight up hussy.
Speaker B:And so Sam tells Dean about their plan.
Speaker B:Is you.
Speaker B:The same spell the Eileen used to trap him.
Speaker B:And then they're gonna stab the banshee.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, we can't use Mildred as bait.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because he's sad about that now and then.
Speaker A:Apparently, he's always had a thing for Blanche, and Sam had a thing for.
Speaker B:Sophia, which surprises nobody.
Speaker B:And Dean then asked Cassifer if he can keep the Amara stuff between them.
Speaker B:And he's like, of course.
Speaker B:And the next time you face her, you know, they won't be alone.
Speaker A:Oh, good Lord.
Speaker A:All right, so Eileen and Sam start prepping Mildred's room to trap a Banshee.
Speaker A:And Sam's trying to talk to her about how, like, well, it's just.
Speaker B:I just know something about revenge and.
Speaker A:Like, you're not going to feel better and what's your plan afterwards and what are you going to do?
Speaker A:And she's like, well, my mom was a lawyer.
Speaker A:That'd be nice to follow in her footsteps.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:I wanted to be a lawyer.
Speaker B:You're a minnow's letters legacy.
Speaker A:You want to be a lawyer?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:We're the same.
Speaker A:We're the same.
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, I wouldn't be hunting if it wasn't for my brother.
Speaker A:And my brother has my back even when I let him down.
Speaker B:Guilt Drake.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I decided at this point, I turned this into a drinking game.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And every time that, like, Sam had a guilty feeling that I had, had to take a shot because that was the only way.
Speaker A:And you're alive.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm a little drunk.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So Dee then comes in, and then, like, they do the secret legacy handshake.
Speaker A:You get a gold blade, and you get a gold.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker A:And so Mildred enters, and she's greeting, and she is gonna go sit and talk with Dean because they.
Speaker A:She wants to watch the sunset with him.
Speaker A:I don't blame her.
Speaker A:It's lovely sunset.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:And she's just kind of hounding him, too.
Speaker B:Like, when's the last time like.
Speaker B:Like, you just sat here to watch the sunset without worrying, like, what's going to go bump on the other side of it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And he didn't even know, but he should try it more.
Speaker A:And he hopes that this isn't.
Speaker A:And she hopes that this is not her last one.
Speaker A:But he, Dean, reassures her and gives her her very own gold plate, which is sweet again.
Speaker B:How heavy is this knife?
Speaker A:And this is where she tells him what she did before she retired and she was in a Patsy Cline tribute van.
Speaker B:She should have a TED Talk.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I want to hear her TED Talk.
Speaker B:Because she's like, you know what the secret to a happy life is?
Speaker B:And everyone's like, yes, please tell.
Speaker A:Please share.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I also want to call her Passy.
Speaker B:Like, tell me Pass.
Speaker B:You'll tell me Mildred.
Speaker B:Actually, can you tell me as Patsy client?
Speaker A:Oh, that'd be even better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Can we get a TED Talk of Mildred?
Speaker A:Can we, like, go super meta on this?
Speaker A:And, like, it's this actress who we'll get to in a minute playing Mildred doing Patsy Cline.
Speaker A:That's what I need.
Speaker A:Talking about the secret of life.
Speaker B:Talking about the secret of life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then because, like, you can even get more money because, you know, with.
Speaker B:With Passy's, like, plane crash and stuff, like, she become like, oh, there's so many ways we could do this.
Speaker B:We have a new one woman show for you, Mildred.
Speaker B:Whoever your actress's name.
Speaker B:We'll give it to you later.
Speaker B:In a minute.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So where were we?
Speaker B:So she's got Patsy Clan tribute band, Secret to a Long, Happy Life.
Speaker B:And apparently it's to be very horny.
Speaker B:Based on what?
Speaker B:Is that what you got out of it this episode?
Speaker B:I believe the secret to a happy life is to stay horny.
Speaker A:Oh, well, it's following your heart.
Speaker A:And the rest figures itself out.
Speaker A:She traveled, she met people and she made people smile.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then now she's there, and life's great.
Speaker B:And her hand is on Dean's knee.
Speaker B:And he's like.
Speaker B:Like, your hand's still there.
Speaker A:And she's like, I can slide it up.
Speaker B:Horny.
Speaker B:So horny.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:Can't blame a girl for trying.
Speaker B:No, I applaud.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But then.
Speaker B:Oh, it's not Mildred.
Speaker B:Banshee's like, I don't give a.
Speaker B:About your arrhythmia.
Speaker A:Yeah, your arrhythmia is nothing.
Speaker A:We're gonna go after these guys that have way bigger problems.
Speaker B:I'm looking at people.
Speaker B:Who is vulnerable in this.
Speaker B:In this.
Speaker B:This place?
Speaker B:Mildred does not.
Speaker B:Mildred could lead a army.
Speaker B:Like, I have more faith in Mildred than anybody in the United States.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So it's Dean.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker A:Dean is here.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:He's hearing the screams.
Speaker A:The lights are flickering, and our banshee is there, and she's disappearing and reappearing.
Speaker A:And she flings Eileen.
Speaker A:She gets cut by Sam.
Speaker A:She flings him.
Speaker A:And then Dean is beating his head against the wall, which is very hard to watch.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:All three times that we see that or four times that we know.
Speaker A:Three times.
Speaker A:This episode.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:I. I'm very.
Speaker B:I also don't know, as an actor, like, how do you do that?
Speaker B:Like, can you imagine, like, faking your head into.
Speaker B:Like, that has to be such a mind, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's very upsetting.
Speaker A:I don't like it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But of course, the one that we did not have to worry about is Mildred.
Speaker B:And of course, she's just like, I got this.
Speaker B:Like, what did we have to do?
Speaker B:I cut my hand.
Speaker B:Boom.
Speaker B:I gotta sigil this.
Speaker A:And she does.
Speaker A:And as.
Speaker A:And then the banshee gets trapped and Eileen is able to stab them.
Speaker B:And then it just goes poof.
Speaker B:And that's how the banshee goes away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just gone.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker B:So Dean's very bloody, and Mildred wants to nurse it.
Speaker B:Him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, he looks pretty rough.
Speaker A:I mean, that's distressing.
Speaker A:So we cut the next morning, or daytime now, and Eileen and Sam are talking, and they discuss that.
Speaker A:She tells him that it does feel just like another kill.
Speaker A:It doesn't have, like, some, like, big weight.
Speaker A:It didn't bring her parents back, but also, she's not going to go to law school because this is her life.
Speaker A:And he's like, totally get it, by the way.
Speaker A:You should reach out sometime.
Speaker A:She's like, sure, you can call me, and I'm not gonna answer.
Speaker B:And it was a very funny, I won't hear you.
Speaker B:So Mildred, though, is walking out with Dean, and.
Speaker B:And then she's like, I know.
Speaker B:It wouldn't have worked out because you're clearly pining for someone else.
Speaker A:Yikes.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:What is happening?
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker B:Dean, you like Amara.
Speaker B:Ew.
Speaker A:You can't like her.
Speaker B:You're gonna get darkness cooties.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And Dean just tries to place it off.
Speaker B:He's just like, I'm single and.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And meagle.
Speaker B:And she tries again.
Speaker B:She was like, you can me now.
Speaker B:Like, right now.
Speaker A:You are not.
Speaker A:You don't mean that, sir.
Speaker A:You don't mean that.
Speaker A:And so they leave, and Eileen and Mildred watch as Mildred continues to objectify.
Speaker B:Them and says something about their butts.
Speaker B:Dirty, dirty, horny Mildred.
Speaker B:And so then we go back to the bunker where they're.
Speaker B:Sam tosses Dean a beer.
Speaker B:I. I need to.
Speaker B:I need to go watch the gag reel for the season.
Speaker B:Because I bet you anything like that scene happen to take a few saves.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Cassifer is gone.
Speaker A:But, you know, they're not really worried.
Speaker A:Dean's like, yeah, something seemed off, but, you know, something always seems off with him, so it's fine.
Speaker A:No big.
Speaker A:No big.
Speaker A:So Sam concedes that Dean was right, that being back on a job did help him.
Speaker A:And by the way, I have taken the time to really, you know, think about some stuff.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:And Lucifer's highlight reel of all of my failures really showed me that I should have looked for you when you were in purgatory, and I shouldn't have stopped looking for you.
Speaker A:And I've never forgiven myself for that.
Speaker A:I think this is growth.
Speaker A:And I know it's a whole, like, okay, Sam's guilty on.
Speaker A:But I'm like, But he's actually acknowledging it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I got to drink on that part.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, we are actually going to have this conversation a little bit.
Speaker A:You're never.
Speaker A:An acknowledgment.
Speaker A:You're not asking for a deep thing, but you're sharing.
Speaker A:I think that's something of note.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But Dean says, I've forgiven you, by the way.
Speaker A:It's the past and it's done.
Speaker A:And all that matters now is we're together.
Speaker B:That's all that ever matters, so shut up and drink your beer.
Speaker B:Title of my next country album.
Speaker B:So Sam says that he'll be able to sleep okay.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, I got some ringing in my ears, but some music's gonna wash it out.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And Sam's just like, why was that banshee going after you?
Speaker B:Why are you.
Speaker B:Why are you vulnerable?
Speaker B:Dean?
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker A:He's like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker A:I think I just got in the way of Mildred and so just went after me.
Speaker A:No big deal.
Speaker B:And it's later, and they're getting ready for bed, and Sam is putting a brochure for the retirement home and his memory box.
Speaker B:You can also see the wooden prop of Dean's amulet from Supernatural, the musical in there as well, which is really sweet.
Speaker B:And then Dean goes to bed with his arms crossed like a psycho.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And we've got Prison Grove by Warren Zeben playing, by the way, during this scene.
Speaker A:And Dean cannot sleep because he's sleeping.
Speaker B:Like a psycho whose arms cross leg.
Speaker B:That's not how you go to bed.
Speaker A:Unless I think if I've slept that way.
Speaker B:If you're very mad and someone like.
Speaker A:No, I think.
Speaker A:I think I've, like, been like, push off again.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, arms up, like, at my chin with a blanket.
Speaker A:But not crossed.
Speaker A:Cross or down to my side.
Speaker A:I've done.
Speaker A:Which I know, but not this way.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is.
Speaker B:This does not look comfortable.
Speaker B:Sam puts his head on a pillow like a normal person.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:Dean does not.
Speaker A:But, yeah, that's our episode.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:I just like.
Speaker B:Because Dean obviously can't sleep and he stares off at space and.
Speaker B:And that's how we.
Speaker B:We end this.
Speaker B:So you need a tv and you're room team.
Speaker B:All right, so let's talk about all these awesome people who get to meet this episode.
Speaker B:Casting couch is the casting couch.
Speaker B:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:We've got Eileen Lehi, played by Shoshana Stern.
Speaker A:And we are definitely going to see her again.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:She's been in episodes of er Lie to Me a few times and Grey's Anatomy a couple times.
Speaker A:She's Bonnie on the.
Speaker A:Was Bonnie as on the TV show Jericho, which was, like, almost a couple dozen Episodes of that.
Speaker A:And then she was Megan in Weeds for over a dozen episodes.
Speaker A:Mildred Baker was played by Dee Wallace.
Speaker A:As you probably could guess, she has a very long career.
Speaker A:She's been in episodes of Starsky and Hutch, Chips, Taxi, Murder She Wrote, LA Law, Jag, Touched by an Angel, Nash Bridges, Felicity Bones, Grey's Anatomy, My Name Is Earl, what is it?
Speaker A:Ghost Whisperer, Criminal Minds, Law and Order, LA, the Office, Grim, General Hospital, NCIS, and Nine One One.
Speaker A: She was Nettie in the: Speaker A:She was Mrs. Walker and here Come the Munsters, which was a colorized short release of the Munsters.
Speaker A:She was Dennis Rodman's stepmom in Bad As I Want to Be, the Dennis Rodman Story.
Speaker A: e was Cynthia in Halloween in: Speaker A:She was Marie in Jeepers Creepers Reborn.
Speaker A: Transylvania announcer in the: Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's.
Speaker B:She's amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Arthur was played by Jonathan Potts.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of kung fu, the 90s version, Degrassi, the Next Generation, Nikita Suits, Designated Survivor, and Jack Ryan.
Speaker A:He was a headmaster in Good Cruel Intentions 2, professor in Jason X and then Mr. Gittin in Ginny in Georgia, which is a series on Netflix that I enjoy.
Speaker A:He's been over a dozen episodes of that.
Speaker A:And then Nathal.
Speaker A:I don't know how you say this angel's name.
Speaker A:Anyways, he was played by Anthony Shim.
Speaker A:He's been episodes of Smallville, Fringe and Flash.
Speaker A:He was also a gin in Star Trek beyond.
Speaker A:And our banshee was played by Atlin.
Speaker A:Mitchell has a bunch of credits, hundreds of credits as a stunt person.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So you mostly.
Speaker A:You may have seen Atlin as an actress in shows like iZombie, Flash, and See more recently, but most of her career is as a stunt woman.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:All the Twilight movies, Smallville, I picked the ones that she did like a bunch of episodes or big films because it was just such a huge credit list.
Speaker A:But Smallville, Mortal Kombat, Legacy, Fringe, Deadpool 1 and 2, and the Predator film.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I love a snot woman.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wish I was taller.
Speaker B:It was stunt woman.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:Is that our cast?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what we got.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So one.
Speaker B:Again, the cast was amazing.
Speaker B:I think it was just ensemble wise.
Speaker B:Was just great ensemble it was a good ensemble.
Speaker B:It was well written.
Speaker B:And as much as I said, like, I don't like, not a huge fan about, like, you know, of the Banshee.
Speaker A:But she made you not hate the Banshee.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I was, you know, what did you think?
Speaker A:No, I enjoyed this episode a lot, actually.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't think I would and I didn't.
Speaker A:In some ways.
Speaker A:It feels like, objectively not as adventurous, but it was such a good monster of the week one.
Speaker A:It brought us some great characters.
Speaker A:It also had some character growth of our core characters.
Speaker A:And I enjoy, enjoyed it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, you know, not a bummer.
Speaker B:And dirty horny Mildred just really carried the show through.
Speaker A:Well, it's always just like the tidbits, man, that just like, really bring it home.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, it's, you know, it's the attention to detail and just also having really well crafted characters.
Speaker B:Because if you're pulling in some characters in that aren't going to be once likely not going to see again.
Speaker B:I mean, obviously, you know, Shoshana being.
Speaker B:But she's a know it's.
Speaker A:But I have.
Speaker A:No, I'm not.
Speaker A:I have accepted the fact that we're not gonna see Mildred again.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I mean, just.
Speaker B:But automatically you knew who she was.
Speaker B:Like, you knew her like, and it was just so.
Speaker B:And you became like, you've loved her, even though it was just like an hour.
Speaker B:Like, oh, we're gonna see her again.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that just makes you enjoy the episode more.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And also, it's always really funny when somebody objectifies the Winchesters.
Speaker B:So I think on that note of objectification, I will say cheers to it.
Speaker A:Cheers, bitch.
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