2:16 Roadkill
The episode we're talking about it Season Two, Episode Sixteen Roadkill. We discuss whether or not there are antibiotics for ghost infections! Farmer Roadkills! And the lore behind Texas' own Devil's Backbone and the Devil's Backbone Tavern.
For your listening pleasure:
https://youtu.be/wa_yF71F1nw Ray Wylie Hubbard Purgatory Road
https://youtu.be/mdAEZOIAFQs John Arthur Martinez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpq_XHOcxKU Todd Snider - The Story of the Ballad of the Devil's Backbone Tavern
and the weird reggaeton scenery of the Backbone https://www.hauntedplaces.org/item/devils-backbone/
Sources:
"Haunted History." The Devil's Backbone Tavern. https://www.devilsbackbonetavern.com/haunted-history/.
"Haunted Highways and the Devil's Backbone of Texas." Mysterious Universe, 13 Nov. 2018. https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/11/haunted-highways-and-the-devils-backbone-of-texas/.
Martinez, John Arthur. YouTube. https://youtu.be/mdAEZOIAFQs.
"Ray Wylie Hubbard Purgatory Road." YouTube. https://youtu.be/wa_yF71F1nw.
Rudine, Ken. "Devil's Backbone Tavern Ghosts." Texas Escapes. http://www.texasescapes.com/KenRudine/Devils-Backbone-Tavern-Ghosts.htm.
Snider, Todd. "The Story of the Ballad of the Devil's Backbone Tavern." YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpq_XHOcxKU.
"Texas Haunted History: The Devil's Backbone." Under the Lone Star. https://underthelonestar.com/texas-haunted-history-the-devils-backbone/.
"The Devil's Backbone." Texas Hill Country. https://texashillcountry.com/devils-backbone-haunted-texas/.
"The Devil's Backbone." Unsolved Mysteries Wiki. https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Backbone.
"Devil's Backbone Ghosts Hunting." Reporting Texas, 31 Oct. 2013. https://reportingtexas.com/devils-backbone-ghosts-hunting/.
Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina. Season 6, episode 17.
Transcript
Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:We're going to talk about season two, episode 16, and we're going to ask, are there antibiotics for that ghost infection?
Speaker B:We're going to talk about distilled spirits of the devil's backbone.
Speaker A:And damn those boys.
Speaker A:Dig fast.
Speaker A:Let's do this.
Speaker B:Sa.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trip Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And this week we're going to talk about season two, episode 16, Roadkill.
Speaker B:Roadkill.
Speaker B:It was very sad.
Speaker B:There was not enough roadkill on this.
Speaker B:I was expecting, like, more like, you know, dead things on the road.
Speaker B:Like a squirrel.
Speaker B:Yeah, we don't like.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Squirrel people.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I mean, I like watching my squirrels, but they're dicks.
Speaker A:Yeah, they taunt my dogs.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker B:And the squirrels are the reason why my contacts are burning this morning.
Speaker B:So I texted Diana this morning and I was like, you want to wake up?
Speaker B:Go feed your birds with their hot pepper bird feeder and forget that that dust just settles on your fingers and it's cayenne pepper.
Speaker B:And then put your contacts in.
Speaker B:And yeah, I was like, oh, oh, I don't need that coffee now.
Speaker B:I needed the clothes coffee, but always,.
Speaker A:Always need the coffee.
Speaker A:Yeah, that sounds unpleasant.
Speaker A:But I learned something from that today because I didn't know that birds like hot and spicy stuff, but the squirrels do not.
Speaker B:I don't know if this birds like the hot and spicy.
Speaker B:They just don't mind it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And squirrels won't eat it.
Speaker B:At least I haven't seen them.
Speaker B:And that's what every.
Speaker B:All the bird people say.
Speaker B:So, yes, I feed the birds in my yard because I've got many birds and I could talk hours about them, but it's really sad and lonely.
Speaker B:Okay, well, we won't talk about my birds.
Speaker B:How was your week, Diana?
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:Lots of little bits of excitement.
Speaker A:I will talk about it at a later date.
Speaker A:But Duchess, my car was an extra in a filming last week, which is pretty freaking cool.
Speaker A:But I will talk more about that at a later date.
Speaker B:And then Secret secret squirrel.
Speaker B:Not a secret rogue kill squirrel.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And then I got neurotoxins injected in my face by choice.
Speaker A:Liz is judgy about it, but I don't care.
Speaker A:It makes me happy.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I'm judging per se.
Speaker B:I also just don't think that she needs it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I think her face is Beautiful.
Speaker B:And I think that's something for, like, maybe later on in your life.
Speaker B:And if you start now, it's partially preventative.
Speaker B:I mean, so is moisturizer.
Speaker B:Put some fucking moisturizer, some sunscreen on your face.
Speaker A:I do that, too.
Speaker A:But, yeah.
Speaker A:So I got Jeuveau injections last week for first time.
Speaker B:It's like, basically, she got a hot beef injection.
Speaker B:No, wait, that's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:And then I got to go see some bands.
Speaker A:Some amazing Dallas musicians played on Friday night.
Speaker A:And it was in conjunction with the State Fair of Texas and State Fair Records.
Speaker A:So there were Corny Dogs, and I got a picture with Little Big Texas.
Speaker B:And so now the State Fair was open.
Speaker B:Oh, not yet.
Speaker A:Not yet.
Speaker A:It's part of their countdown to it.
Speaker A:Because State Fair Records, which is a local record label, helps do the music programming for the State Fair of Texas.
Speaker A:Not all of it, but some of it.
Speaker A:Because State Fair of Texas has smartly refocused a lot of their music programming to be Texas artists, which only makes sense in my opinion.
Speaker A:But it didn't in the past.
Speaker A:So in the past few years, they've done this.
Speaker A:And then, so, yeah, I got to see some great friends, play music and have some beverages and eat some corn dogs, and that was good times.
Speaker A:And then, yeah, that was my.
Speaker A:I mean, that was a good night.
Speaker A:Friday night.
Speaker A:And then I guess my other, like, got to hang out with friends and family and go to a little bridal tea and then celebrate one of my stepson's birthdays with him.
Speaker A:My other one's out of town, so, yeah, you know, it's a good weekend.
Speaker A:There was.
Speaker A:There were drinks, there were pool time, there was steaks and cake, and that's all good.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, Living the high life.
Speaker A:Yeah, Fancy over here.
Speaker A:Just socializing.
Speaker A:Corn dogs and cake this weekend.
Speaker A:That's all.
Speaker B:And a new cowboy hat, too.
Speaker B:So you are a fancy Texan.
Speaker A:I just got a new cowboy hat.
Speaker A:It's so pretty.
Speaker A:They picked it out without me.
Speaker A:My husband and my stepson, they went to.
Speaker A:There's the Stetson Resist All Outlet.
Speaker A:And they do, like, the shaping of the hats and all that up in Garland here and outside of Dallas.
Speaker A:And they have an outlet store, and so the guys wanted to go look at hats afternoon.
Speaker A:So they went and looked at hats.
Speaker A:And they were out there like, what are you looking for?
Speaker A:And I told them I had in mind.
Speaker A:And I get a text.
Speaker A:Found your hat.
Speaker A:You're going to love it.
Speaker A:And there's like, that moment of.
Speaker A:They are so confident you're like, you're nervous.
Speaker A:You're, like, nervous.
Speaker A:You're like, oh, fuck, what did you do?
Speaker A:What did you buy?
Speaker A:And I like, check the bank account real quick to see how much he spent because I was a little nervous too.
Speaker A:Like, oh, fuck.
Speaker A:How many hats does everybody get in here?
Speaker A:But it's beautiful.
Speaker A:It's this beautiful white rabbit felt cowboy hat.
Speaker B:I think you should post a picture of it on the IG because it is really pretty and I think for.
Speaker B:For boys.
Speaker B:They did a really good job.
Speaker B:Good job, boys.
Speaker A:And it's got.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:And I have to send you a close up on the side of it.
Speaker A:It's a little rhinestone buckle that has a green rhinestone in it.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker A:Which is so.
Speaker A:Me too.
Speaker A:So excellent job.
Speaker A:They were like, almost sure.
Speaker A:Then they saw that little, like, buckle on the band.
Speaker A:They're like, definitely her.
Speaker A:Because if you didn't know, I'm Slytherin.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker A:So, yeah, tell me about you because I know you have a super secret adventure, but you're going to keep it secret until we get to.
Speaker A:A little bit later in our episode.
Speaker B:Though, I'm going to keep the adventure secret until we get to Lore, but I think we're going to do that pretty early in this episode.
Speaker B:So I will.
Speaker B:I will confess all the things that I did on Sunday that.
Speaker B:But Saturday is but five hours getting my hair done because.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Complicated.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Diana got toxins in her face and I bleached out all my hair and re dyed it the exact same color like you do.
Speaker B:I also have a hairdresser who does not believe that she could just put red on my hair.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, you can really just put red on this hair.
Speaker B:It'll take it.
Speaker B:She's like, we need to lighten it.
Speaker B:I'm like, all right, bitch, whatever.
Speaker B:Like, you just want to charge me by the hour.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:She's not.
Speaker B:She's not that way.
Speaker B:So that was.
Speaker B:That was part.
Speaker B:That was most of my Saturday because by the time that got done, I was like, oh, look, couch.
Speaker B:And whatever shit I'm watching on Netflix.
Speaker B:I have no idea what I watched, but yep.
Speaker B:So that was my weekend.
Speaker B:We'll get to the rest of it in a little bit.
Speaker B:What are you drinking tonight, Diana?
Speaker A:I am drinking the end of our stock of gin.
Speaker A:D J I N N. That's how it's spelled.
Speaker A:From our friends at hi Rum in a really modified take on a bee's knees.
Speaker A:Because I didn't have lemons and I didn't want to drink something out of a coupe glass.
Speaker A:So it's basically really good gin with a little bit of honey and lime juice because that's what I had.
Speaker A:And some Topo Chico.
Speaker B:Why don't they make those coupe glasses bigger?
Speaker B:Because, I mean, I love them.
Speaker B:I feel elegant when I'm drinking out of them.
Speaker B:But I'm like, this is.
Speaker B:I will finish this shit in like 10 minutes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm like, is this a shot glass?
Speaker A:She feels like a challenge.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I like to.
Speaker A:Sometimes I like prefer to like sip a cocktail with ice in it for.
Speaker B:A while, you know.
Speaker A:Anyways, that's just me.
Speaker A:I'm also the asshole that likes my like martinis on the rock sometimes.
Speaker A:And bartenders sometimes judge me or they get it.
Speaker A:One of the two.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:How about you?
Speaker A:What are you drinking?
Speaker B:I am drinking a Bordeaux.
Speaker B:But it is a Bordeaux that according to the sign in the specs, that is so everyone Bordeaux or French.
Speaker B:But the winemakers are Texan.
Speaker B:And I looked on their site and it did verify that people, people who met it, who made it, they did meet in Texas.
Speaker B:And it's a liberation day.
Speaker B: Paris Bordeaux: Speaker B:Like a pretty.
Speaker B:I love a shitty Bordeaux.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:That sounds bad, but I mean it's like.
Speaker B:It's like a $20 bottle or something.
Speaker B:Nothing crazy, but I always forget.
Speaker A:You always turn me on to Bordeaux and then when I go wine shopping, I always forget how much I enjoy them because we have them together frequently, like a lot of times.
Speaker A:So I remember that I have a.
Speaker B:New one to try.
Speaker B:I'm pretty excited about.
Speaker A:I'll tell you about next week maybe I knew.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you.
Speaker B:If you just go into the store and you just see anything that says Chateau block, like whatever behind that, it's generally going to be fine.
Speaker B:Chateau does something and you'll probably be fine with Bruno.
Speaker B:That is Liz's mind tip for the day.
Speaker B:Find something that says Chateau to something and you're probably cool.
Speaker B:Oh, oh, I know what I.
Speaker B:The other thing I want to tell you, I spent all day facing booking up my trip to la and I actually took all five, like taking all five days off of work.
Speaker B:And the day after, after I get back, I am finally book.
Speaker B:Took the day after I go on vacation back.
Speaker A:You never do that.
Speaker A:And I'm so bad about it too.
Speaker A:I'm very proud of you.
Speaker B:I. Yeah, I am.
Speaker A:Terrible day to get back and settled in because you know you're going to check Your work, you know you're going to, but at least you're not.
Speaker A:You can kind of clean it up and prep it for your actual day back.
Speaker A:You can do fucking laundry.
Speaker A:You can chill on the sofa and go grocery shopping and all that dumb stuff that you have to do when you get back in town from a more than like a two day trip, you know, it's like more than that.
Speaker A:You just need some time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I was very annoyed because I spent all this time going back and forth between Hotel Airbnb, Hotel Airbnb, and I wanted to stay somewhere near West Hollywood or somewhere near Wilshire, because I have two concerts that I'm going to.
Speaker B:One is Tiger army and the other is Twin Temple, my favorite satanic do wop band.
Speaker B:I'm so excited.
Speaker B:They just played their first show since COVID in Vegas last weekend at the Metal Psycho Festival.
Speaker B:I had some friends go, but I don't think they caught them.
Speaker B:But I saw pictures from it and they looked great.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But so I did all this thing and finally I was like, okay, I found this Airbnb and it's like it's above a Trader Joe's.
Speaker B:It's got a pool, it's got a bathtub.
Speaker B:That's the main thing is I have to have a bathtub in my hotel down.
Speaker B:Because I want to be able to take a good like bubble bath when I'm on vacation and go through.
Speaker B:And finally I'm like, all right, I'm just going to put the Airbnb and I book it.
Speaker B:And then like an hour later I get a message from the host that we're not available.
Speaker B:And I'm like, fuck you.
Speaker B:Why does your Airbnb say that you're available if you're not?
Speaker B:It was like, do you know how long it spent me to like going through thousands of.
Speaker A:You just like clicked this one out of the blue and booked it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I've been looking at these Airbnbs for weeks and like, and like comparing the prices to hotels.
Speaker B:And then I was like.
Speaker B:So I finally.
Speaker B:And then I went through and finally just booked through my normal one that I have status with.
Speaker B:And I'm staying in the Beverly Hills, so staying at the.
Speaker B:I'm not going to tell you what hotel, but I'm sitting at.
Speaker B:Like you guys would.
Speaker B:If you want to stock me at a hotel in Beverly Hills.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You really want this Gives you more cred at that point.
Speaker A:It's not really even scary at that point.
Speaker A:Just like legit.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And we'll See, and then, of course, like, I did, like, trip insurance on everything.
Speaker B:Flights were so really, really cheap.
Speaker B:I ended up getting first class tickets for Pretty, pretty, pretty cheap.
Speaker B:Mainly because Southwest isn't.
Speaker B:If Southwest had a nonstop, I would have just gone with it.
Speaker B:But they don't have a nonstop.
Speaker B:And I just really like nonstops.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker A:It's better.
Speaker A:Like, if I'm having a layover, it's got to be like, really fucking worth it or the only option.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, it's generally only option.
Speaker B:You know, I could have flown spirit for $50, so.
Speaker B:And it was like, I know someone that did recently.
Speaker A:My problem is I can't pack that light well.
Speaker B:And you still make it worthwhile.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You still have to pay for your bags and other stuff.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's like, well, I might as well use the one that I get the plants for, blah, blah,.
Speaker A:Blah, and just, you know, travel life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which, you know, and we'll see what, you know, what's happening at the end of October.
Speaker B:And now I have to get on.
Speaker A:The world's gonna be fine.
Speaker A:We're all gonna be fine.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I just to do.
Speaker A:I have things to do.
Speaker A:It has to be.
Speaker B:I know, but I mean, now.
Speaker B:Oh, the other thing that I did this week, and I haven't told best friend yet, that I was able to snag VIP tickets for punk rock bowling.
Speaker B:So now I have to sell the other ones because I'm pretty much.
Speaker B:I just like, threw out a bunch of money this week, and it was just like, take all my money.
Speaker A:I'm going all the places to do all the things.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker B:Well, I already had tickets for punk rock bowling, but I did not have the vip.
Speaker B:And with the VIP you get reentry.
Speaker A:And that is why money.
Speaker B:I was like, I don't want to be stuck at an outside anywhere.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But not.
Speaker B:I'm a fucking adult.
Speaker B:I want to leave and come back.
Speaker B:I want to shower.
Speaker B:I want to go hang out at a pool.
Speaker B:I want to do other things.
Speaker B:So I haven't told him yet, so.
Speaker A:And while you are at punk rock bowling, I will.
Speaker A:You'll be in Vegas at punk rock bowling, and I'll be in Nashville at Americana Fest, which I'm deeply amused by the overlap here of these.
Speaker B:You know, it's the same.
Speaker A:Totally the same.
Speaker A:I'll get to wear my hat.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I was able, like, almost all the after hour parties have been sold out for punk rock bowling.
Speaker B:And I did snag tickets to Go see El Mariachi de Bronx.
Speaker A:And they are so good.
Speaker B:They're so good.
Speaker B:They're also opening for Tiger army when I go see them in la.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I'm jealous.
Speaker B:So I'll try.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get a wild hair and just, like, show up in LA on your trip.
Speaker B:I have an extra ticket.
Speaker B:That's one temple, so I'm excited.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's talk about this episode.
Speaker B:We'll stop rambling on about our lives.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hopefully you find us interesting, because we think we're really interesting.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:All right, so tell us about season two, episode 16, roadkill.
Speaker B:So not a whole lot of new information.
Speaker B:So as we know, it's season two, episode 16.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:Charles Beeson directed.
Speaker B:He's the same guy who did the fucking Doll episode.
Speaker B:And then he'll do a bunch of other episodes after this.
Speaker B:And it was written by Raelle Tucker, and I'm a terrible podcast host, and I forgot to look into the background, so we're just going.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I will say that this episode kicks off with the Animals song House of the Rising sun, and we see a woman driving late at night with her significant other.
Speaker A:And this woman is none other than Tricia Helfer, who plays Charlotte in Lucife, which I also adore.
Speaker A:So I like her.
Speaker A:I like her a lot.
Speaker A:And I was really happy about that.
Speaker B:Didn't.
Speaker B:Didn't click.
Speaker A:I was like, I know her.
Speaker A:I know her.
Speaker A:I know her.
Speaker A:So I had to look up.
Speaker A:I was like, I know who this is.
Speaker A:I was dying.
Speaker A:I love the show Lucifer also.
Speaker A:So I was really excited to see her, obviously much younger, and I did a little background.
Speaker A:Apparently she was a model, a Canadian model, before she got into acting.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:She also has.
Speaker B:I have a note on her, too.
Speaker B:It's like, I really like her outfit in this.
Speaker B:Like, she get, like, at least, like, the bottom half.
Speaker B:Like, she gets out in these really nice bootcut jeans and this cute pair.
Speaker A:Of cowboy boots, just.
Speaker A:And then satin jacket.
Speaker A:She's wearing a satin jacket, which is pretty sick, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I kind of went back and forth on a satin jacket, but I was like, I think I like it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But overall, I thought the whole outfit was on par.
Speaker B:So it is going.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then her significant other in the car with her, we found out.
Speaker A:So that's Molly is Trisha Halpert's character, and then David is the gentleman in the car with her, paid by Dan Gauthier, who I looked up and he looked kind of familiar and I couldn't place it.
Speaker A:It's not from anything specific.
Speaker A:He's just basically been in one episode of like every program ever made.
Speaker A:Going all the way back to Punky Brewster, Friends, Criminal Minds, like, anything you can think of.
Speaker A:He's been in like one episode.
Speaker A:You just look generally familiar then.
Speaker A:Okay, so FYI, that's if he looks familiar to you, that's why no knock on him.
Speaker A:Do it.
Speaker A:Make, you know, have your career.
Speaker A:It's just funny.
Speaker A:All right, so they're driving.
Speaker A:It's late at night.
Speaker A:He has the map.
Speaker A:It's the very, you know, the trope of the man who is the woman's driving.
Speaker A:He's getting them lost and looking at the map, thinks they're on Highway 99 and doesn't want to stop for directions.
Speaker A:And then there's a joke about men and not asking for directions.
Speaker B:Well, which is fair.
Speaker B:Also, I think it points out how early this was.
Speaker B:Like, right.
Speaker B:Like you think about time wise.
Speaker B:So they didn't actually put a date on there of when this happened.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But I think that's a pretty good symbol.
Speaker B:Like, there is no gps.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker B:He's just looking at a map.
Speaker A:I didn't even think of that.
Speaker A:Oh, man, good catch.
Speaker A:Anyway, so he's talking about how they're taking the scenic route and then they realize that they're on Highway 41, not Highway 99.
Speaker A:And he just gets really sweet and apologetic, like, like he should be for getting them lost on their anniversary.
Speaker A:And, like, kisses her and she gets all distracted and they see a man standing in the road with, like, his innards falling out of his guts.
Speaker A:And she screams and they crash down a hill into the woods and it cuts to black.
Speaker B:Wait, where was his guts already falling out?
Speaker A:I thought so.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker B:No, he was just.
Speaker A:Oh, he's just a man on the road there.
Speaker B:He was just a man on the road.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay, yeah, Boiler.
Speaker A:Anyways, so she screams and crashes the car.
Speaker A:Like, and you like, see this coming a mile away because they're like, no, no driving pun intended.
Speaker A:But, like, there's like the.
Speaker A:Oh, there's the crappy road sign.
Speaker A:There's the he's lost and there, now she's distracted.
Speaker A:I'm like, ah, they're about to crash something.
Speaker B:Also, like, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Maybe it's just me and my freaky.
Speaker B:Like, I freak out driving when it's snowy and I see, like, I would be like two hands on the wheel, just like white buckling it like, there's ice around this corner.
Speaker B:I know there's not black ice.
Speaker A:It was just slightly misty out.
Speaker B:It was snowing.
Speaker B:There was snow everywhere, which implies that the snow would have melted, it would have formed black ice and you had gone around the corner and you would have swerved and died.
Speaker B:So as she did see, she fucking did.
Speaker B:So, yeah, two hands on the wheel, pay attention.
Speaker A:She, we.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:She wakes up in the car and like has like, you know, banged up a little bit and he's not there.
Speaker A:She crawls out looking for him and starts walking around and yelling.
Speaker A:But she starts like walking in one direction.
Speaker A:And my first comment was, how the.
Speaker A:How do you pick a direction to go?
Speaker A:You're just fucking wandering off into the woods yelling, this is not smart.
Speaker A:Anyways, you just stay where your car is or you go up to the road, pick one.
Speaker B:Also with all the snow, I mean, like that satin jacket.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker B:Gonna be cold shit.
Speaker B:Like, it's like, I guess, you know, shock, adrenaline, whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So she finds some like barn cabin thing and has a light in it.
Speaker A:So she like knocks and goes in and there's.
Speaker A:Because of course in this show everybody just goes in places if the door is unlocked, like there's no.
Speaker B:Nobody answers.
Speaker B:Like I'm just gonna walk in on.
Speaker A:That's what they do in Supernatural.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then there's like all these weird farm implements and knives and some blood.
Speaker A:And then she sees the back of the man that she thought she was going to hit.
Speaker A:And he's standing in a corner with his back to her.
Speaker A:And she gets closer to him.
Speaker A:We see the camera reveals to us, the viewer that his guts are falling out from his stomach.
Speaker B:And I wrote his belly be full of maggots.
Speaker A:And he turns to face her and his face starts kind of like getting all like creepy rotten looking.
Speaker A:And she screams and it cuts cats.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And a couple of things, you know, is as we learn later that this is just a hunting cabin.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He's not a serial killer.
Speaker B:And they made this look very.
Speaker B:And I've been in a lot confused.
Speaker A:I was like, what the is this creeper?
Speaker B:I've been in a lot of hunting cabins.
Speaker B:You don't put.
Speaker B:Why are you cutting that shit up on your table?
Speaker B:You do that outside.
Speaker A:Because the cabin is where like you like sleep.
Speaker A:You want it to be like comfy and not disgusting mostly.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, it's not.
Speaker A:I stayed in a hunting cabin before.
Speaker A:My great, great uncle Henry had a turkey hunting cabin up way far north Virginia.
Speaker A:Stayed In.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so she goes and she runs, but she runs back off to the woods.
Speaker A:Yeah, because now she's going to run, you know, with no direction in mind.
Speaker A:The other direction, because that's my note.
Speaker B:Says Molly runs through the woods to the woods.
Speaker B:I don't know what that means.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, it's accurate.
Speaker A:She's not going any fucking direction.
Speaker A:So, yeah, so she.
Speaker A:But somehow she ends up back at the road and she yells at a car to stop skating in the middle of the road, which always worries me too.
Speaker A:I'm like, some.
Speaker A:I would not do that.
Speaker A:I would get hit.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:But it's Baby and the Winchesters.
Speaker A:So she tries to tell them what happened.
Speaker A:And Dean says, did he look like he lost a fight with a lawnmower?
Speaker A:She's like, how did you know?
Speaker A:But, like, it's a really weird question.
Speaker A:So Sam really wants to take her to town, but she refuses until she finds her husband.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And they want to go back to her car, but they go and her car is gone.
Speaker A:So really, at this point in the episode, if you've never seen this episode before, like me, you're like, oh, fuck.
Speaker A:This guy's like some crazy fucking thing that's like killing people on the highway.
Speaker A:I'm like, I don't know what he is, but he's some kind of creature.
Speaker A:Anyway, so they have some weird back and forth about we need to get out of here.
Speaker A:The brothers do, and they.
Speaker A:They have like, flow back and forth again about telling her the truth, but basically they decide it's better just to convince her to come with them by saying they're going to go find the cops.
Speaker A:And she's upset, you know, rightfully so.
Speaker A:I think the last time she.
Speaker A:Last thing she said to her, her husband, that was that she called him a jerk.
Speaker A:And they're driving with her in the car.
Speaker A:She thinks to go talk to the cops.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, House of the Rising sun starts playing on the radio on its own also, you know,.
Speaker B:Molly being like, the last thing I said to him is that you're a jerk.
Speaker B:I was like, no, you guys are made up.
Speaker B:You made up.
Speaker B:You were canood.
Speaker B:Think you weren't.
Speaker B:Unless I guess, you know, it was.
Speaker A:A playful, like, jerk.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which I think is fine.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's endearing.
Speaker A:It's not like, you jerk.
Speaker A:It's different.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And then so the song starts playing.
Speaker A:She's like, wait, this was playing when we crashed?
Speaker A:And then the radio dial starts moving on, so that shit freaks Me out, by the way.
Speaker A:I don't like that.
Speaker A:Not my.
Speaker A:Not a fan.
Speaker A:And you hear this, like, weird voice saying, she's mine.
Speaker A:And they look up and the guy is in the street again.
Speaker A:Because Guy can't stay out of the fucking road, apparently.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:That's just what he does.
Speaker B:He hangs out in the road.
Speaker B:That's what you do.
Speaker A:So Dean accelerates and drives right through him.
Speaker A:And he dissipates like a spirit.
Speaker B:Whoa.
Speaker A:Now we know this guy's a spirit.
Speaker B:So do you think that he dissipated because of the iron in baby?
Speaker A:Interesting call.
Speaker A:Possibly.
Speaker B:That was my thought.
Speaker B:Because otherwise, I mean, why didn't he just, like, jump?
Speaker B:But Molly's still in the car, so.
Speaker B:Okay, there may be a problem.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Okay, go on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Molly starts kind of freaking out and, like.
Speaker A:And Sam keeps telling her it's going to be all right.
Speaker A:Then all of a sudden, baby starts sputtering.
Speaker A:And that is not cool.
Speaker A:Not baby.
Speaker A:And slows down.
Speaker A:Breaks down.
Speaker B:I was like, baby is making sad, sad noises.
Speaker A:Sad, sad, sad car noises.
Speaker A:And so they.
Speaker A:We get to go see a really good look at Trunk, though.
Speaker B:Team Trunk.
Speaker B:Hey, Trunk.
Speaker A:And Molly is freaked the fuck out by Trun.
Speaker B:Team Trunk.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Probably rightfully so, that she is freaked out by Trunk.
Speaker A:So, yeah,.
Speaker B:It would make me feel better if I was gonna go into a woods.
Speaker B:And granted, I'm the estranged guys and they open up their trunk, but I mean, if they're not ashamed of what's in there, then I'm like, you're probably not gonna kill me.
Speaker B:Like, you probably gonna use these weapons to help me.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:So Dean tells her, basically, they are already hunting for ghosts and that this guy is Jonah Greeley.
Speaker A:He was a local farmer who haunts the road once a year.
Speaker A:She still wants to bail.
Speaker A:She's like, y' all are still fucking crazy.
Speaker A:Fuck this shit.
Speaker A:I'm out.
Speaker A:But he.
Speaker A:Dean explains that you're not gonna get out of here on your own.
Speaker A:From Farmer Roadkill is what he calls him.
Speaker B:Do you like farmer Roadkill?
Speaker B:And then, yeah.
Speaker B:And Sam says, you know, like, every year, really find someone to punish for that.
Speaker B:And this night, it's you.
Speaker B:And some spirits only see what they want.
Speaker B:But, you know, I think if we're gonna do this, we're talking about a haunted road.
Speaker B:We need to talk about some other haunted roads.
Speaker B:Like I said, we're gonna get to some things early.
Speaker B:So we're going right into lore now.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:And also.
Speaker B:Cause I know Diana is Pent on needles of like, what the fuck did you do this weekend?
Speaker A:You sent me a picture and you wouldn't tell me what we were doing, but okay,.
Speaker B:Lore, you can figure it.
Speaker B:Like, I realized what I sent you, you could probably tell.
Speaker B:So we are going to talk about a very infamous stretch of haunted highway in Texas known as the Devil's Backbone.
Speaker B:So the Devil's Backbone is also called Diablo Espinosa, or Spunny Devil.
Speaker B:So this is a.
Speaker B:Basically, it's a scenic loop which is out in the hill country.
Speaker B:And so the Hill country of Texas, for those of you who don't know, it's full of hills.
Speaker B:That's why it's called the Hill Country.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But there's.
Speaker A:It's west of Austin.
Speaker A:West.
Speaker A:And north of Austin is where the Hill country mostly, like, covers that part of the south.
Speaker B:We're talking about a south of Austin.
Speaker A:Okay, well, south, because all that whole stretch around that to the west of Austin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So basically.
Speaker B:Basically there is a scenic loop, and if you look at it, you get to see this ridge, and there's this giant ridge that light forms above this, and it's really badass.
Speaker B:Like, if you ever go look, it's just.
Speaker B:It's fucking beautiful.
Speaker B:Yeah, we can certainly go.
Speaker B:It is also one of those things, like, I'm really glad I did this because, you know, it reminded me why I live here, because really, this only took me like, 30 minutes to get there from my house.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So the ridge itself was really, like, throughout history, been a mystic place.
Speaker A:The old.
Speaker B:The Native Americans, or whatever we want to call, you know, first tribes, first people, first nation, whatever, they've been using that area for a long time.
Speaker B:They used to use it as, like a lookout point to, like, see, like, if there were any enemies coming in.
Speaker B:There are a lot of battles that were fought there, like, over time.
Speaker B:Before the first Spanish settlers came to Texas, you know, other people did live here.
Speaker B:I know that's shocking.
Speaker B:For the most part, it was mostly combanche because they were the hardcore badasses.
Speaker B:And they had a lot of battles with the Kiowa, the Cato and the Apache.
Speaker B:So many, many battles.
Speaker B:Many, many dead people.
Speaker B:And a lot of the legends that are around the Backbone involve encounters with different Native American spirits.
Speaker B:And generally they're thought to be those of the Comanche.
Speaker B:And so we're going to talk about some of those legends, and they're all really fun.
Speaker B:Okay, fun to me, probably not to other people, but I think they're great.
Speaker B:So one story there, there was a hunter his name was John Mears.
Speaker B:He kept hearing footsteps walk.
Speaker B:He was, he was out hunting in a tree stand and he was like, so if those of you who don't hunt.
Speaker B:So there's different ways that you kind of stalk your, you stalk your deer.
Speaker B:So tree stands are pretty much what they sound like.
Speaker B:People build these platforms up in trees and we've had them at our ranches and I'm not fucking going up in them because you basically like climb.
Speaker B:I, you basically put a ladder up this tree and then you have a platform, then you hang out on this platform and then you can have the, the advantage of seeing your, your prey as it comes in.
Speaker B:But I don't like heights and I'm not going to do that because especially.
Speaker B:Cause like most of them don't have like rail safety rails around them.
Speaker B:And to me I'm like, I'm not going to lean over something and like have a gun with a kickback.
Speaker B:Like this just seems a way for me to be.
Speaker B:Or else I'm like, I'm just klutzy and I'm just going to trip and fall out of this thing.
Speaker B:So anyway, so John is like up in his tree stand and while he's sitting up there, he keeps hearing something that sounds like somebody is just circling around the bottom.
Speaker B:And he's looking out over it.
Speaker B:He can't like see anybody there, but he just hears his footsteps going around in a circle, Circle.
Speaker B:He's like, what the fuck is happening?
Speaker B:And finally they stop and he's like, okay.
Speaker B:And he's like, I guess we're done.
Speaker B:And he hasn't got any deer, so he's gonna go back to his hunting cabin.
Speaker B:So he walks down, gets climbs on his ladder and he starts walking back and he's like, I don't feel like I'm alone.
Speaker B:And he looks over and then he sees a dark skinned shirt and which is also really odd because as some people know, deer season here is in the middle of winter and it was 20 degrees out.
Speaker B:So there is a dark skinned man and he's wearing buckskin breeches and he's got war paint on and he's like, like.
Speaker B:So he just kept walking and this guy just kept walking parallel to him and he's like, he just like, he didn't seem like he wanted to cause me any harm.
Speaker B:He was just kind of curious and like, who the fuck are you?
Speaker B:Like, what are you doing here?
Speaker B:And so they kind of went back and finally he like, he turns, he's like, I'm going To walk towards this guy, and he walks towards him, and he vanishes.
Speaker A:I would be very upset.
Speaker B:So another of the infamous stories comes from Burt Wall.
Speaker B:And a lot of the accounts we have, if you've, like, researched this on the Internet, they come from Burt.
Speaker B:He wrote a book on the Devil's Backbone, and he was also on the Unsolved Mysteries episode of this.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:By the way, I looked up the wrong episode of Unsolved Mysteries, and I saw this really great episode where there is a cat that went on, like, this family was moving, and they were moving with, like, 10 cats, and they were in the.
Speaker B:Like, the.
Speaker B:Like, the front of this cabin of a truck, and the window was open, and the cat escaped, and they couldn't find the cat.
Speaker B:And then, like, they just eventually laughed.
Speaker B:I'm like, I would never leave my cat.
Speaker B:But so they eventually left, and they, like, went, like.
Speaker B:So they went to their new home that was, like, 250 miles away from there, and the cat found it them.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:The cat was pissed.
Speaker B:Well, it was, like, a place.
Speaker B:The cat, like, had never been there.
Speaker B:It was a new place.
Speaker B:He just found the owner.
Speaker B:And I may have cried while I was watching the episode.
Speaker B:Anyways, okay, so Bert, he was.
Speaker B:So he's a writer, and he was in his cabin.
Speaker B:He was writing a story, and he heard his dogs barking, and he looked outside his window, and he saw a Spanish monk.
Speaker B: e guessed was from, like, the: Speaker B:And after a few minutes, he vanishes.
Speaker B:And Bert believes that the monk was the ghost of a Franciscan monk named Espinosa who lived in the area over 300 years ago.
Speaker B:How Bert found this out, I don't know.
Speaker A:It's very specific.
Speaker B:It's very specific.
Speaker B:But somehow Bert, like, did research and found this.
Speaker B:Good on you, Bert.
Speaker B:There is another instance that happened when a ranch hand was using his bunk, and, like, he.
Speaker B:Like, there's a bunch of other ranch hands sleeping in there.
Speaker B:But he woke up because you've heard, like, horses heard lives.
Speaker B:And so he went outside, and then he saw, like, 15 to 20 Confederate soldiers riding by on horses.
Speaker B:He was like, what the fuck?
Speaker B:And is it reenactment weekend?
Speaker B:What the hell is going on?
Speaker B:And then they just disappear.
Speaker B:So they saw that he also had a friend that was out.
Speaker B:This is a really great story, and it's kind of weird.
Speaker B:All right, so there's this guy named John Villarreal, and he was out hiking with some friends, and then he saw, like, a wolf, and he Was like.
Speaker B:And there's no wolves here in Texas, by the way.
Speaker B:Not for a very long time.
Speaker B:Coyotes, yes, but they tiny you, you know, difference between coyote and wolf.
Speaker A:Very different.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he sees this wolf, and then, like, the wolf jumps on him and he's like, yelling and, like, none of his friends saw anything.
Speaker B:And the wolf just, like, jumps through him.
Speaker B:And he's telling his friends, like, did you see this wolf?
Speaker B:And they're like, no.
Speaker B:So they take him and they're like, they're leaving and they get into their truck and like, the guy who was with him in the truck was like, it just got very col.
Speaker B:It was like I was sitting next to a block of ice.
Speaker B:They get back to their house, and Villareal goes into a trance, and he starts convulsing and growling and snorting, and he's mumbling in some language that he doesn't know.
Speaker B:They think it was like a mix of, like, Spanish and, like, maybe Apache or Comanche.
Speaker B:He started talking about the Native American massacres and other things that had happened on the Backbone.
Speaker B:And this lasted until there was a strong gust of wind that blows through the house.
Speaker B:And then he just went back to normal.
Speaker A:I'd be really upset if one of us did that when we were hanging out.
Speaker B:Just saying, yeah, yeah, I promise not to get possessed by a wolf ghost.
Speaker A:Please don't.
Speaker B:Yep, there's also a Native American ghost often seen herding cattle on the Backbone.
Speaker B:And his name, everyone just names him Drago.
Speaker B:I don't know where that name comes from, but it also reminds me of Dray Foe or Draco.
Speaker B:And I'm just like, it's a Malfoy.
Speaker B:And so, like, there's Native American Malfoy.
Speaker B:And he's just herding his cattle up along the ridge.
Speaker B:Ranchers also tell stories of a widow and a child of a miner who was killed.
Speaker B:I don't know where the fuck mines are here, but okay, yeah, sure, I guess we have mines.
Speaker B:And supposedly she's wandering, looking for a burial for her child's husband and father.
Speaker B:So there's that.
Speaker B:So there's like.
Speaker B:So Devil's Backbone is gorgeous.
Speaker B:And off of 306 is Purgatory Road and literally 70 Road.
Speaker B:Purgatory Road, because we're Texan and we're awesome.
Speaker B:So, like, I've got many pictures of Purgatory Row.
Speaker B:So it said that if you drive on there, there will be, like, an apparition that appears in the hood of your car as you're driving.
Speaker B:Nobody jumped on Little Beastie.
Speaker B:I Looked there was, there was no ghost on my car.
Speaker B:It was very sad.
Speaker A:So you didn't get, you didn't get an apparition visit?
Speaker B:I did not.
Speaker B:But ghost hunters are often like in this area and they see like shadow people and they have EVP recordings of like that are going on this rip.
Speaker B:But it's also so infamous.
Speaker B:There are tons of songs that have been written about this area, including John Arthur Martinez and one of my favorites, Ray Riley Hubbard.
Speaker B:And Ray Riley Hubbard song about it.
Speaker B:He has, there's a, there's a verse in there that says, now just past the cemetery with its chumped over tombstones, there's a little tavern that's called the Devil's Backbone.
Speaker B:It's got your distilled spirits and Tennessee sour mash and sign that says in God we trust.
Speaker B:All others pay cash.
Speaker B:So as part of my adventure, because I will do many things for this podcast, I went and drank at the Devil's Backbone.
Speaker B:I unfortunately such a sacrifice.
Speaker A:Making the sacrifice.
Speaker B:Such a sacrifice.
Speaker B:I did want to go see a band that was playing there, but I stopped at Riley's in the Backbone.
Speaker B:So there's two Riley's Taverns in this area.
Speaker B: e zip code for hays county is: Speaker B:So that's always been a thing.
Speaker B:I went to college in Hays county, so I know that very well.
Speaker B:And I used to always enjoy writing that on anything.
Speaker B:What's your address?
Speaker B:78666.
Speaker B:So devil's backbone Tavern though is a really cool place.
Speaker B:It's on Ranch Road 32.
Speaker B:It's near Fisher.
Speaker B:And this is from their website.
Speaker B: istory dates back to the late: Speaker B: eer, became licensed in early: Speaker B:Since Hays county was dry, I can't imagine Hayes county being dry.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, I'm going to go through a little thing because pretty much all my colleges went drinking.
Speaker B:So they basically, there was no other means to get alcohol there.
Speaker B:So they opened up Tavern.
Speaker B: ehind the case coming line in: Speaker B: In: Speaker B:And shortly after the dance hall was constructed.
Speaker B:The dance hall like the.
Speaker B:So there's a.
Speaker B:You go in and there's like the bar area and there's the.
Speaker B:Just the dance hall area.
Speaker B:And the dance hall area is fucking awesome.
Speaker B:So is the bar area.
Speaker B:But including, like, great cult 45 signs with Billy Williams on them.
Speaker B:Love it.
Speaker B:And the venue just became like an attraction for.
Speaker B:This is again from the website.
Speaker B:The venue became a rare attraction for anything you needed, including a cold beer, a tire change, or an ass whooping.
Speaker B:With local and touring bands drawing crowds to the dance hall during its heyday from music and dancing.
Speaker B:And of course, it's haunted.
Speaker B:It's so haunted.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the lights are known to flicker on and off for no reason.
Speaker B:Glasses and tableware move.
Speaker B:The jukebox is said to be haunted.
Speaker B:It always seems to have a mind of its own.
Speaker B:Doors and windows often close by themselves and there's wet footprints left around the place when nobody is there.
Speaker B:Ghosts will often appear as apparitions or they'll poke and prod customers and employees as well as run fingers through their hands.
Speaker B:Hair.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, no ghostband fingers through my hair.
Speaker A:There was a really.
Speaker B:There was a really drunk lady next to me, though, who was really mad and said something like, dipping your dick isn't the only form of cheating.
Speaker B:She was screaming at this man and it was hysterical.
Speaker B:By the way, this is also like 3 o' clock in the afternoon.
Speaker B:And she.
Speaker B:She like traffic.
Speaker B:She is like, I'm fucking wasted.
Speaker B:I'm like, yeah, you are.
Speaker A:Are.
Speaker B:You are so drunk.
Speaker A:Yes, ma'.
Speaker A:Am.
Speaker A:Not gonna argue with you.
Speaker B:Not gonna argue with you.
Speaker B:You are indeed very inebriated in the afternoon.
Speaker B:No judgment here.
Speaker A:Just an observation.
Speaker B:Just an observation.
Speaker B:So one of my favorite stories is Robert Kelly, whose picture hangs on the wall next to other pictures of customers who have since gone to the other side.
Speaker B:He was known to have an attitude and his picture fell and hit his former girlfriend in the head as she was talking shit about him.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker B:It is amazing.
Speaker B:So there's also like tons.
Speaker B:Like I said, there's tons of musicians who've written about this.
Speaker B:Todd Snyder has a really great, great song.
Speaker B:It is a story of the Ballad of the Devil's Backbone Tavern.
Speaker B:You can look that up on YouTube.
Speaker B:You could also go find.
Speaker B:I'll post this link in there.
Speaker B:There's a video just like the Backbone with some random reggae tone.
Speaker B:And I'm like, why are you playing, Reg?
Speaker A:There's actually, like, songs about this.
Speaker A:And you picked some random reggaeton song.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker B:I'll post a link to that, though.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So I just want to end the story on that with.
Speaker B:So Burt Wall says that the Devil's Backbone is haunted because it is loved by the spirits and that when he dies, he's going to haunt it too.
Speaker B:And that is the Devil's Backbone.
Speaker A:Good to have a plan.
Speaker A:Good to have a plan.
Speaker B:It's good to have a plan.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's an incredible area.
Speaker B:It is, like, really a favorite spot for bikers because it's just, like twisty and Kirby and, like a fun place to ride.
Speaker B:It was a fun place to drive through.
Speaker B:There were lots of bikers, like, in both.
Speaker B:In both Rileys and at Devil's Backbone.
Speaker B:And one of them, I was like, damn, that guy looks like Jason Momoa.
Speaker B:And I was like, have I had too many Lone Stars?
Speaker B:And I was like, I'm going to leave now.
Speaker B:That biker looks really hot in time for me to go.
Speaker A:I want to go off to go to our list when we come down next.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:When Babe and I come down in October.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, they have, you know, really good bands that come through there, both at Riley.
Speaker B:The really good bands play at Riley's too.
Speaker B:But yeah, the afternoon bands and evening bands.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:It really is a fucking hockey tonk.
Speaker B:They have embraced everything about, like, there is like, you can get bandanas and T shirts with devils on them.
Speaker B:They have like a bookcase that's just a coffin.
Speaker B:The fireplace, which is supposedly haunted.
Speaker B:Like, if you look in there, you can see like a devil in the woods.
Speaker B:And of course, I tagged it with our shit.
Speaker B:There's a sticker in the bathroom.
Speaker B:And I'll show that story.
Speaker B:There are other stickers in that thing.
Speaker B:I didn't just, like, tag a random place.
Speaker B:I just saw a place with other stickers and I put our sticker on there.
Speaker A:You added to their sticker decor.
Speaker B:So as you're peeing in the Devil's Backbone Tavern, if you're a lady or if you're a man or whatever gender,.
Speaker A:Whatever toilet you happen to be using, whatever toilet.
Speaker B:But you're in the one that says ladies.
Speaker B:Because the men's bathroom is outside.
Speaker B:Because they're men.
Speaker B:They pee.
Speaker B:And men pee outside.
Speaker A:Like wolves?
Speaker B:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker B:Maybe not like haunted wolves, but yeah, you can see our sticker in the bathroom.
Speaker B:And great experience.
Speaker B:Highly recommend it.
Speaker B:If you're in Texas, come check it out.
Speaker B:There's always going to be ghost hunters out there and just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's just a damn good Texas.
Speaker B:Like old.
Speaker B:Old honky tonk and damn.
Speaker A:All nice, awesome.
Speaker A:Lots of fun.
Speaker A:I want to go.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was also.
Speaker B:It was fun.
Speaker B:This is one of the ones that I really want, I had enjoyed researching because I knew about the Devil's Backbone.
Speaker A:I was so close.
Speaker A:That always adds an extra layer of, like, excitement to it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I knew it was like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was like, it would always say, like, I've heard it's haunted.
Speaker B:And, like, I heard stories, but, like, I didn't really get to dig into it.
Speaker B: Unsolved mysteries of, like,: Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna go back.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is when Sam basically tries to convince Molly that they're serious about ghost hunting.
Speaker A:And she finally realizes it.
Speaker A:And so she takes them to the cabin where she saw him standing there.
Speaker A:And Sam notices that there's not a grave around there and that's what they're really looking for.
Speaker A:And they explain to her she's pretty shell shocked about the fact that they have to salt and burn.
Speaker A:Burn his remains.
Speaker A:So they're going to try to find the corpse.
Speaker A:So they're like, we got to find the wife because that's how we'll figure.
Speaker B:Out where the corpse is.
Speaker A:And then Molly makes a reference calling them Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:It's pretty funny.
Speaker A:They are not thrilled.
Speaker A:So Dean's just really focused on the mission, though, because they have to solve this by sun up since it only happens once a year on this one night.
Speaker A:So they go looking for some other structure.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden she hears because they assume there has to be another, like, building around there.
Speaker A:And fucking Molly hears somebody, somebody whispering, help me.
Speaker A:So she, of course, splits off.
Speaker A:Like, people, like, like predictable dumb TV stuff.
Speaker A:Don't fucking split off, guys.
Speaker A:It's a fucking horror scene anyway.
Speaker B:Splitting off.
Speaker B:Like, I'm sorry if you're in the creepy ways.
Speaker B:And you hear a voice that says, help me.
Speaker B:You say, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:You can come to me.
Speaker B:But I am.
Speaker A:She thinks it's David.
Speaker A:She thinks it's her house husband.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Random voice in the woods.
Speaker A:I'm guessing she could have been like, sam, Dean, come.
Speaker A:There's a voice over here.
Speaker A:And that would have been probably wiser, but yeah.
Speaker A:So of course she splits off and Greeley's spirit grabs her.
Speaker A:And I so jumped, like, to the point where Dave laughed at me bad.
Speaker A:And so all of a sudden, Dean is like, right there and has his.
Speaker A:His little gun loaded up with rock salt and shoots spirit.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:So then they're trying to get to the they're trying to get to where other.
Speaker A:Other.
Speaker A:Other property is out there because they know there's some other structure on this property and that's gonna.
Speaker A:They think they'll have you the house.
Speaker A:Which will give him the key to where this guy's buried so they can fucking get rid of his body.
Speaker A:And Dean says follow the creepy brick road.
Speaker A:When he finds a path.
Speaker A:I found amusing myself.
Speaker A:And she's trying to ask a lot of questions about the use of salt.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, anyways, kind of explaining about the purity of it.
Speaker A:So I thought it was kind of interesting that she was actually asking like, what is this?
Speaker A:Like, I felt like a very.
Speaker A:I was like, that was well written.
Speaker A:Somebody would ask that question.
Speaker A:That's smart to ask that.
Speaker A:So they find a creepy abandoned house.
Speaker A:And of course Dean's comment is just, just one time I'd like to cross to round a corner and see a nice house.
Speaker A:It's like, yeah, yeah, you don't get to do that every day.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:So they all go in because they don't find any head silence outside.
Speaker A:So yes, creepy house.
Speaker A:They must all go inside.
Speaker A:Obviously that's what you do.
Speaker A:Sam's upstairs with Molly looking for the information while Dean stays downstairs poking around upstairs is like a shit ton of paperwork.
Speaker A:And if.
Speaker A:But Molly finds a photo album that's like a photo album of this guy Greely and his wife.
Speaker A:And she's kind of looking through, there's love letters and she's like, but if he's so nice and sweet, how do you turn into this fucking monster now?
Speaker A:And Sam's kind of explaining that a spirits are kind of like a wounded animals.
Speaker A:They can lash out, but something is keeping them here.
Speaker A:Whether it be revenge, love, hate.
Speaker A:They just can't let go whatever it might be.
Speaker A:And so I thought it was interesting.
Speaker A:Sam sounds actually very sorry for the spirits in this port.
Speaker A:In part.
Speaker A:This part.
Speaker A:And he basically says they're good people that something happened to.
Speaker A:Dean on the other hand, says, I don't like them.
Speaker A:I'm not making any apologies for him.
Speaker A:So they realize though that there's like this little like trap door.
Speaker A:Weird.
Speaker A:Weird door for attic access is basically what I'll describe it as in the wall.
Speaker A:And they kick it open and there is an excessive amount of cobwebs in this room.
Speaker A:Like somebody spent a lot of money at spirit Halloween to put the cobwebs in this room.
Speaker A:And Dean says, it smells like old lady in here.
Speaker A:And then they look over and they see the wife had hung Herself a long, long time ago.
Speaker B:Sad.
Speaker A:Very sad.
Speaker A:And Molly's comments?
Speaker A:Well, she didn't want to live without him.
Speaker A:So Sam is insisting on pulling her down to put her arrest.
Speaker A:Dean's kind of like resistant, but goes for it anyways.
Speaker A:But Molly really wants to know.
Speaker A:And they go, they dig that grave really fucking fast.
Speaker A:Like, they did this grave in record time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:In the winter.
Speaker A:In the winter, the ground be very hard.
Speaker B:Yeah, very hard.
Speaker B:Frozen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They've got like two hours till sun up a few minutes ago.
Speaker A:And now all of a sudden they like make an entire grave in like five minutes anyway, you know.
Speaker A:But Molly really wants to know, though, what happens to the spirit once they're at peace?
Speaker A:Like, if the spirit gets released, like, if, you know, where do they go?
Speaker A:And James comment was, it's above our pay grade.
Speaker A:And Sam was just kind of hopeful that it's.
Speaker A:Hopeful that it's someplace better.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, so that was kind of an interesting little exchange.
Speaker B:And it's a very metaphysical conversation.
Speaker B:Like, what happens when you die?
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm now like, if they're.
Speaker A:Getting rid of these spirits or dissipating these spirits or whatever, where are they going?
Speaker A:I mean, that is a question you would have.
Speaker A:I would think.
Speaker A:I think it's a little interesting that Dean doesn't seem to.
Speaker A:He plays off like he didn't care.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:And I thought the other interesting thing was I think it was Dean that said, dad always said, because she asked you what happens to the ones who you burn.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And basically was like quoting Beetlejuice and saying like, it's death for the living.
Speaker B:And so then I pictured, like, there's like this, like this.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's just like this haunted.
Speaker B:Like this room of like spirits is going up like in Beetlejuice.
Speaker B:But I mean, it's kind of shitty.
Speaker B:I mean, it's like.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, then shouldn't you find another way to do this?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because like, what is it just like go like, blip out of existence?
Speaker A:That's kind of like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:That's kind of scary.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So that's for Ghost said, that's why they all.
Speaker A:That's why we all fear death, is because the unknown is basically the idea.
Speaker A:So they, they.
Speaker A:And they're so sure.
Speaker A:That's Their comment is people fear death because they fear the unknown.
Speaker A:And Molly's comment is, I just fear not see David again.
Speaker A:And this is not very telling at this point.
Speaker A:It's very sweet at this point, but it becomes very Telling as we.
Speaker A:As we get to the big review.
Speaker B:But she also says, you, I have to see him again.
Speaker B:Which is a weird thing to say.
Speaker B:Like, I fear.
Speaker B:Like, I like it sounds like I have to see him again.
Speaker B:Which does kind of give hints about what's to come.
Speaker A:Something.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's something abnormal coming.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they have another argument.
Speaker A:That brother is back in the the house.
Speaker A:She's looking at the photo album and the guys, the brothers, have another argument about telling her about her husband for her own good.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, what the fuck?
Speaker A:What do they know?
Speaker A:And I'm kind of like, they know he's dead or something.
Speaker B:And they're thinking, were you thinking David was dead?
Speaker A:Yeah, I thought David was dead and they were stringing her along as bait.
Speaker A:But I also was like, but that doesn't seem right either.
Speaker A:That doesn't seem like what would be happening.
Speaker A:It didn't feel like that because he wouldn't just be gone with the car being gone unless they knew something.
Speaker A:And then they would have known.
Speaker A:Then they would have known where to find the bad gu.
Speaker A:And they wouldn't have needed her to do that.
Speaker A:So I was like, this doesn't add up.
Speaker A:It was very.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I was perplexed at this point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So she overhears them and calls them out for caring more about the hunt than her husband.
Speaker A:Which mean, like, well, they.
Speaker A:They've been accused of that kind of shit.
Speaker A:Not a first.
Speaker A:But all of a sudden the radio cuts on with House of the Rising Sun.
Speaker B:It's just that goddamn ccr.
Speaker B:It's just like coming in everywhere you go.
Speaker A:Just that creed is, you see, the dean goes to investigate the radio.
Speaker A:Sam's with Molly.
Speaker A:And I think one of my other questions.
Speaker A:So the wife hung herself, right?
Speaker A:Is she the one that went and covered all the furniture with sheets before she fucking killed herself?
Speaker A:Or did some like, obscure family member come do that?
Speaker A:Why do these houses always end up with someone covered all the furniture and sheets?
Speaker B:Like, who does that?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But there were also a ton of like beer bottles and other things in there.
Speaker B:So clearly kids have been partying in there.
Speaker B:Other.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It is weird, but.
Speaker A:But the kids wouldn't have put sheets on it.
Speaker A:They would have uncovered it.
Speaker B:Why didn't they just get rid of the furniture?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Is there no one, like, taking care of this estate anyways?
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:So they find the old radio and the cord has been cut, but it's still playing and then there's a weird breeze.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then we have our lavender and Ron Harry Potter moment is what I thought of immediately.
Speaker A:Where it says, all of a sudden there's a fog on the window and it says, she's mine.
Speaker A:Which is really funny because all I can think of is lavender on the train to Hogwarts.
Speaker A:Breathing heavily on the window and drawing the heart with the L plus R is all I could think of.
Speaker A:So that's my.
Speaker A:I was cracking up at myself at that.
Speaker A:So anyways, all of a sudden, one of the windows breaks and Greely has broken the window, which is interesting for spirit, and grabs Molly.
Speaker A:And I wrote eek because I was like.
Speaker A:But I'm also like, this dumb bitch was standing by a window while the shit was going on.
Speaker A:Sorry, Molly, but.
Speaker A:So the brothers try to chase after.
Speaker A:They can't find her.
Speaker A:And they're like, still freaked about time.
Speaker A:But this is where Sam has looking at the photo album that Molly was really, really intrigued by.
Speaker A:Because Molly was really intrigued by the fact that Greely really loved his wife.
Speaker A:And so she kept looking at this and reading these love letters and looking at these photos.
Speaker A:That's when Sam notices is that one of the pictures in there is from two weeks before Greely died.
Speaker A:And it's in front of the cabin that they had found him at earlier.
Speaker A:And there was no tree in that photo, but now there is.
Speaker A:So he reveals that it's an old custom of tree as a grave marker.
Speaker A:And Dean says, you're like a walking encyclopedia of weirdness.
Speaker B:And I commented, goals.
Speaker A:It's Liz.
Speaker B:So there we go.
Speaker B:So I tried searching for this, but I really didn't have a lot of time.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Because the thing is, is that if you put in custom tree marker graveyard, you just get a lot of ads for, like, you can plant a tree for your dead loved one.
Speaker B:And I'm like, no, no.
Speaker B:I want to know if this is.
Speaker B:And I'm sure I could have done further, but it was not happy.
Speaker B:My DuckDuckGo was like, we're not.
Speaker A:We're not understanding your question.
Speaker A:This is all we got.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they go back and they're like, all right, we're gonna.
Speaker A:Well, we see.
Speaker A:First we see Molly all tied.
Speaker A:Tied up in this.
Speaker A:In this cabin with.
Speaker A:With Greely.
Speaker A:And she's asking for David, talking about Greeley's wife.
Speaker A:And he does a really, really creepy thing, right?
Speaker A:He, like, cuts her face and her stomach with his finger.
Speaker A:And I did not like it.
Speaker A:It made Me very angry.
Speaker A:Do you?
Speaker B:Well, I mean, it also really reminded me.
Speaker B:I don't know if you remember that episode of Buffy where Dawn like wished something and then she had the demon.
Speaker B:Oh, it was where Willow was manifesting things and she couldn't.
Speaker B:She was like manifested herself invisible and there demon that came through and he was doing that to her.
Speaker B:Her stomach too.
Speaker B:That's what it reminded me of.
Speaker B:And I was like, I said it like it then.
Speaker B:I don't like it now.
Speaker B:Don't like it.
Speaker B:Don't like.
Speaker B:Also seems unsanitary and like you're just going to get a ghost infection.
Speaker B:Looks like ghost bacteria is just going to like dig in there and it's just going to like.
Speaker B:You can't get like a ghost antibiotics.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, like, his fingernails are disgusting.
Speaker B:You saw that table was covered in blood.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's nothing clean about this man.
Speaker B:Especially not as a ghost.
Speaker A:No, not really.
Speaker A:All right, so, but he's got.
Speaker A:His weird response to her is like, all I've got is hurting you.
Speaker A:But luckily, then, of course luckily, our brothers arrive and Dean shoots the spirit while Sam is digging outside.
Speaker A:And then Molly says, oh, thank God.
Speaker A:And Dean says, call me Dean.
Speaker B:No, not a good line.
Speaker A:Yeah, terrible line, Terrible line.
Speaker A:Anyways, so Greeley is really strong and they're fighting, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:That's pretty much like the summary there.
Speaker A:But Sam succeeds in digging this hole really fucking quick.
Speaker A:Like their grave digging skills are fucking on point.
Speaker B:They're just like, boom.
Speaker B:We didn't even get this shit.
Speaker A:Speedy grave diggers.
Speaker A:Speedy grave diggers this time.
Speaker A:So he throws salt gas in there, lights on fire, just in time.
Speaker A:And Greely burns up and dissipates.
Speaker A:And so you're like, oh, that's it, right?
Speaker A:What's wrong with this episode?
Speaker A:That they.
Speaker A:They got the.
Speaker A:They got the spirit.
Speaker A:But no, there's more.
Speaker A:So they're all back in, baby.
Speaker A:And she's basically raining really bad.
Speaker B:Is there like limping to this car?
Speaker B:And I'm like, that looks really cold.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So the car magically works now and they are.
Speaker A:She really wants to know what happened to her husband.
Speaker A:She assumes that he was dead all along and they were just kind of like stringing her along.
Speaker A:But Sam's like, no, he's.
Speaker A:He's alive.
Speaker A:We're going to take you to him now.
Speaker A:This is the point where I'm like, the fuck is going on?
Speaker A:So they pull up to a house and tell her that he's inside.
Speaker A:And she sees him through the Window.
Speaker A:They show us him through the window, and it's him, and he's, like, pouring coffee, and some woman walks up and, like, kisses him, and it's him and his wife.
Speaker B:So do you wear a robe when you're around your wife?
Speaker B:Like, I never really got that.
Speaker B:I'm like, huh?
Speaker B:Like, I wear a robe and I'm putting on my makeup, but not just.
Speaker A:A robe around the house.
Speaker A:Sometimes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Babe does occasionally.
Speaker A:Babe does occasionally.
Speaker A:I do sometimes.
Speaker A:I have some nice robes.
Speaker B:I love my robes.
Speaker B:But I'm not just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I just don't hang out with them.
Speaker A:Anyways, okay, so Sam apologizes and explains that 15 years ago, Molly and her husband hit and killed Green.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:And David survived, but she didn't.
Speaker A:Oh, heebie jeebies.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And that there was more than one spirit haunting the highway.
Speaker A:So Molly is a fucking spirit.
Speaker A:And once a year, for 15 years, her and Greely haunt the highway.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're getting our Sixth Sense moment, right?
Speaker B:Like, the whole time is you.
Speaker B:So were you really.
Speaker B:Were you surprised?
Speaker B:Like, did this.
Speaker B:Did you not.
Speaker A:I was getting there.
Speaker A:Like, by the time they were like, they're going to take her husband.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, shit.
Speaker A:Oh, shit.
Speaker A:It's gonna be something like that.
Speaker A:But I didn't know for sure, really, until then.
Speaker A:I said so.
Speaker B:Kind of like.
Speaker A:But it's so creepy.
Speaker A:And, like, it's creepy inside.
Speaker B:It's creepy and sad.
Speaker B:But also, I love it.
Speaker B:Like, I know.
Speaker A:I loved it, too.
Speaker A:I thought it was really cool.
Speaker A:I liked it.
Speaker A:It was a really good twist because it wasn't like, it was a really good, you know, experience of a spirit that is not trying to harm someone.
Speaker A:And I think we.
Speaker A:That in the series.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, that totally makes sense.
Speaker B:I also just really like how then they go back and they show everything.
Speaker B:They go back through it and they show you the moments, and you can watch things again with that knowledge and be like, oh, like, all of this shit makes sense now.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And then you start like.
Speaker B:Like, oh, when they said this, this is really what they meant.
Speaker B:And they, of course, also fill in some gaps that, you know, we didn't know.
Speaker B:Like, that There have been 12 accidents years, and five of them were fatal.
Speaker B:Which is.
Speaker B:Well, that's also like, well, why aren't those ghosts haunting?
Speaker B:I guess they didn't have any unfinished business.
Speaker B:But to me, it was just like, okay, so you got, like, five other people who are dead.
Speaker B:Like, why are we all not, like, having A gift party.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, why are you not hanging out?
Speaker A:They were.
Speaker A:They were at peace, and she wasn't.
Speaker A:So basically she was just holding on all this for these 15 years because she loved her husband so much, which was sweet and sad, but basically.
Speaker A:But really because he was so mad and blamed her so much for taking his life, which.
Speaker A:And caused his wife to kill herself.
Speaker B:Kill herself?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's why he was mad.
Speaker A:It wasn't really about him dying.
Speaker A:It was about the fact that it led to his wife's death.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker B:Which seems legit.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker A:It's like some dark, sweet, twisted love shit in this episode, honestly.
Speaker A:And some, like, just really, really deeply wounded people for very good reason.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:You know, it was just very dark in that way, but also had a weird, dark sweetness to it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Don't fall in love.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's the moral.
Speaker B:Do not get emotionally attached to people or you'll haunt roads.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:So basically, Greely was punishing someone for his death every year, but also haunting her spirit every.
Speaker A:Or, like, chasing her spirit Molly, also.
Speaker A:So spirit Greely was chasing spirit Molly and also just punishing somebody because he was so pissed he was dead.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the brothers really just brought Molly to this point, like, through the whole thing as the sun is getting ready to come up, so her spirit's about to go anyways, so that she could move on.
Speaker A:And she's, you know, scared, but also because she doesn't know what's going to happen.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And she also was like, I want to go see him.
Speaker A:I want to go see him.
Speaker A:And they're like, try to.
Speaker A:I had to explain to her, like, he's mourned you.
Speaker A:You've been dead for 15 years to him.
Speaker A:You can go.
Speaker A:We'll let you.
Speaker A:But think about it.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker B:Which I think was nice of them to say.
Speaker B:Well, they're like, no, we'll let you go, but you're going to fuck him up.
Speaker B:You will fuck him up for the rest of his life.
Speaker A:And it was really sweet and sad.
Speaker B:Okay,.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:And so she basically.
Speaker A:They say it's her time to say goodbye and they believe she'll move on.
Speaker A:So she starts walking away into kind of like the dawn, which, like, brightens up a light absorption.
Speaker A:That was fucking cheesy.
Speaker A:That was almost.
Speaker B:No, that CGI was so bad.
Speaker B:It was so bad.
Speaker B:It was awful.
Speaker B:And, like, they show it, like, once, and you're like, okay, well, that was bad.
Speaker B:They're like, oh, Crap.
Speaker B:They did it again.
Speaker B:Like, they started and there's like, oh, cool.
Speaker B:They went back.
Speaker B:Like, that was just like a blip.
Speaker B:They were like, oh, crap.
Speaker A:It was not good.
Speaker B:No, that was terrible.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was not good.
Speaker A:And we end up with Dean saying, I guess she wasn't so bad for a ghost.
Speaker A:So maybe he's turned around a little bit from his, like, unapologetic ghosty attitude.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:And I thought he was just so.
Speaker A:Well, it's interesting if you assess Dean's behavior throughout this episode, because really, you just assume he's just like, mission focused Gene, because sometimes he gets like that.
Speaker A:But also it's because he really doesn't like Molly because she's a fucking spirit and he doesn't like spirits.
Speaker B:But he also did just let Sam kind of run with this.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And I think Sam.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:They were, you know, kind of agile in this because I don't think they were expecting to, like, have Molly jump in their car.
Speaker B:I don't know what they were intending to do, but they're just like, oh, shit.
Speaker A:Like, they didn't seem to expect, like, the storyline didn't seem to expect her to jump in at all or to be directly interacting with them at all.
Speaker A:They were just.
Speaker A:After Greely, they just knew she was there too.
Speaker A:So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker B:They go into a blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:You go to a better place.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And she goes away.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's the episode.
Speaker A:I enjoyed it.
Speaker B:No, I think this episode was.
Speaker B:It's not one of my favorites.
Speaker B:I mean, I think it's really well done.
Speaker B:I. I don't know what.
Speaker A:My top few.
Speaker A:I really liked it that much, but in a different way than some of the other ones I've liked.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, the Trickster one was really good.
Speaker A:Like, last week was good, good.
Speaker A:But this one was really good in a very different way.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it does.
Speaker B:And I think what's interesting.
Speaker B:So we've had, like, Trickster and we have this one.
Speaker B:And so we were still kind of veering from the seasons.
Speaker B:Like, there was no Whiny Sam in this, I think, which is.
Speaker B:And there was no Whiny Sam, the last one.
Speaker B:And I think not having the whininess and not having the.
Speaker B:You're going to have to kill me.
Speaker B:Like, that shit that's been happening all season, like, it's a relief.
Speaker B:It's just like, okay, cool.
Speaker B:Like, we can like, actually get kind of back to a monster of the Week a good story and just get some really good lore, too.
Speaker B:I mean, so we're getting, you know, we're getting people haunting roads, right?
Speaker B:We're getting, you know, go set, won't move on.
Speaker B:We get a sixth sense twist that if you didn't, like, they did a really good job of, like, just railed the writer and the director, but did a really good job of.
Speaker B:Of keeping that.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:It wasn't.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:I don't know how to put this.
Speaker B:It wasn't very obvious that they were twisting it, right.
Speaker B:Like, you weren't expecting a twist.
Speaker B:So, like, were you?
Speaker B:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I mean, I thought there'd be something, like, at some point you're too suspicious about where the fuck is the husband?
Speaker A:But, yeah, you also.
Speaker A:You kind of knew that.
Speaker A:But you also.
Speaker A:It wasn't quite what I expected still, which I enjoyed that about it, actually.
Speaker A:Without it being something that jumped out or did like, the weird freaky things, like the weird motion I don't like.
Speaker B:Yeah, no.
Speaker B:And there's some things, too, which I.
Speaker B:They veer off from a lot of lore that typically goes with spirits, right?
Speaker B:So Molly.
Speaker B:But, like, so she never opened the car door.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Because knowing what I know, like, I watch this kind of with that different eye, right?
Speaker A:Because I know you're watching for all.
Speaker B:Those things, and I'm watching for how her spirit is doing things.
Speaker B:And so her spirit is, like, picking up a book and holding it, like, doing all sorts of things that.
Speaker A:But Greely's, like, smashing out a window.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Mean.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, I mean, I think, as we'll learn as we go through this kind of level, different levels of spirit things.
Speaker B:But it's not typical, like, ghost behavior.
Speaker B:Like, she was, like, sitting in a car.
Speaker B:She was riding, like, so there was nothing in her Persona that was ghost.
Speaker B:Like, there was nothing that she did that would tip you off that she was dead.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I think that that was kind of.
Speaker A:And I agree.
Speaker A:And I thought that was a little interesting.
Speaker A:And I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker A:But I felt like also that was kind of it.
Speaker A:There was an implied explanation by Sam when he was basically talking about, like, they can't let go.
Speaker A:They manifest.
Speaker A:It was implied that they manifest kind of whatever they believe to be as the spirit fair.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:That was my.
Speaker A:That was, I thought, was implied.
Speaker A:Once the end came around, I was reconciling all that myself.
Speaker B:But that's it.
Speaker A:That's what I got.
Speaker A:We got the brothers not neither being bitches and they did a good thing.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:They did a good hunt.
Speaker A:And they did a good thing.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker B:At once and a bitch free episode.
Speaker B:And we got team Trunk.
Speaker B:We got team Trunk.
Speaker A:And you got to do a road trip for your lore.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I got to go drink in a haunted.
Speaker B:Haunted bar.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's worse things.
Speaker B:There are worse things to do.
Speaker B:And, you know, the haunted bar thing is, like, oh, I should go back at night.
Speaker B:But the good thing about, like, these weird bars in Texas is that unless you're outside, like, it's very casino.
Speaker B:Like, like, you go in and, like, there's no light in these places.
Speaker B:It literally looked like it was nighttime while it was in there.
Speaker B:And then you would go outside.
Speaker B:Like, the sun's bright.
Speaker B:Like, oh, daytime.
Speaker A:It's still daylight.
Speaker A:It's still Taylor.
Speaker A:Yeah, we should go.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:When we come down next or what is it, almost next month?
Speaker A:Six weeks or so.
Speaker B:Whenever that is.
Speaker B:That'll be October, too.
Speaker B:Spooky time.
Speaker B:We'll go like spooky ghosts.
Speaker B:Spooky time.
Speaker B:All right, so I think let's.
Speaker B:Let's wrap this up.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker A:Shirk.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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