2:21 All Hell Breaks Loose: Part One and Two
It's the end of Supernatural Season Two and we're covering both episodes 21 and 22! Aka the Demonic Hunger Games. Aka Supernatural Last Chance Kitchen! Lore covers the gates of hell that are in Lubbock, Texas! So many exclamation marks in these notes!
Research Links
- a-story-of-lubbock-s-hell-s-gates
- hell-s-gate-urban-legend-mystifies-residents
- hauntedamericatours.com/ghosthunting/gatesofhell.php
- The Acheri — Astonishing Legends
- Cursed Dudleytown – What Really Happened In America's Village Of The Damned In Connecticut - Ancient Pages
Ghost Hunting Texas Slaughter, Sara, 2009.
Haunted Texas: Famous Phantoms, Sinister Sites, and Lingering Legends Williams, Scott, 2017.
Transcript
Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:In this episode, we're going to welcome you to the Demonic Hunger Games.
Speaker A:Do you volunteer as tribute?
Speaker B:We're going to have to say goodbye to Liz's mullet, honey.
Speaker A:We are also going to feature the new supernatural collab between Yee and Soldier.
Speaker B:Boy and Chupacabras, because why not?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker B:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker B:I'm Diana.
Speaker A:I'm Liz.
Speaker B:And you are in for a double episode today.
Speaker A:Double feature.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:It's like a mega podcast.
Speaker A:You can tell both Diana and I watch Megan it and are like, it's a mega craft.
Speaker A:Mega, mega, megacraft.
Speaker B:Make a cast.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker B:All right, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So when we get around to it, we'll be talking about the end of season two.
Speaker B:We'll be in talking about episode 21 and 22 today.
Speaker B:But first, let's catch up, because y' all haven't heard from us in a week.
Speaker B:And so we've been doing lots of things.
Speaker A:Lots of.
Speaker A:Lots of things have happened.
Speaker A:Do you want to start off with your exciting trip?
Speaker B:Mine wasn't.
Speaker B:Well, mine was probably not as eventful as yours, but I had a fantastic time in Nashville for Americana Fest.
Speaker B:I was there for work, but also it was fun.
Speaker B:Got to host a really badass bunch of artists that are from Texas in Nashville, which is exciting because some of my friends and some of the people I enjoy, so that's always a good time to help celebrate the talents of people you like.
Speaker B:And then I got to go to this private club and do a shot of Korean snake liquor.
Speaker B:When and if you did the shot, you got to sign your name on the wall, which I did.
Speaker B:And it was not delicious, in case anybody was wondering.
Speaker B:But I also did not see things or have any other crazy side effects.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker A:So being a Slytherin, is that cannibalistic, like, drinking your own snake or, like, are you just drinking your, like, your snake sweat?
Speaker A:Is that, like.
Speaker B:I think it's like your own nectar.
Speaker B:Like, it's supposed to be.
Speaker A:You're connecting.
Speaker A:Connecting to your clever essence that tastes like ass.
Speaker B:And so here's the thing is, like, so beforehand.
Speaker B:So I was doing, like, people are like, oh, you should do it.
Speaker B:Like, didn't think I would do it.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:Like, there's things I won't do, but, like, a challenge like that.
Speaker B:Like, obviously, I'm going to do it.
Speaker B:Duh.
Speaker B:I mean, when else am I going to Do a shot of Korean snake liquor and sign my name on a wall in a historic building.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So I'm going to do it.
Speaker B:And I was like, no, no, really?
Speaker B:Does it have, like, a flavor?
Speaker B:And they're like, no, no, it's just really, really strong.
Speaker B:Like, crazy.
Speaker B:Like, ever clear times a million.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, I can fucking do that.
Speaker B:Like, I was all afraid it was gonna taste like.
Speaker B:Like some earthy or some weird flavor.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, no, this is fine.
Speaker B:I got this in the bag, guys.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so I did that.
Speaker B:It's a play for a small shot, too, but, yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker B:So they got, like, the snake, this Korean snake in this bottle, and then next to it, they have to move the special box that has, like, a taxidermied rattlesnake in it, which has nothing to fucking do with it.
Speaker B:It's just part of, like, the moment.
Speaker B:It was kind of funny, but it's cool.
Speaker A:I mean, so did they bring the snake from Korea?
Speaker A:Like, how do we.
Speaker A:The liquor, it was like, is a snake from North Korea?
Speaker A:Is it from South Korea?
Speaker B:They say it's North Korean.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:And I did a little googling afterwards, and apparently, like, some parts of North Korea, like, think it, like, helps you be, like, healthy.
Speaker A:Of course it gives you, like, a big penis.
Speaker A:Because everything, like, everything in, like, Eastern.
Speaker A:Eastern medicine is like, oh, yeah, take this.
Speaker A:It'll give you a big dick.
Speaker A:Eat this.
Speaker A:Eat the shark fin.
Speaker A:It'll give you a big, big dick like that.
Speaker A:Because that's what happens when men run economies.
Speaker A:Oh, drink this, big penis.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So basically, I just, like.
Speaker B:I took the shot, and then it was like, oh, I don't need a chaser.
Speaker B:I need some water.
Speaker B:Because I feel like my breath is flammable at this point in time.
Speaker B:Because I was kind of like, I don't need a chaser for this shit, probably.
Speaker B:And then I was like, no, no, water is fine.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Like, usually you want something, like, with a flavor for chaser.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, no, no.
Speaker B:I just need to make sure that I don't, like, breathe on a flame and burn something down so that then I got to run around, like, got to go eat some good barbecue.
Speaker B:There's a spot that I always like to go in Nashville called the Peg Leg Porker, and I got to go eat there.
Speaker B:They have really good white sauce, white barbecue sauce.
Speaker B:Good shit.
Speaker B:And then I got to go.
Speaker B:Tried to go have frozen drinks with Some friends.
Speaker B:But the frozen drink machine at Duke's was not working that night.
Speaker B:Had some late night burgers at Dino's one night.
Speaker B:Saw some really good artists.
Speaker B:Got to see my friends do well.
Speaker B:Like I said, also at other shows and got to go see some really cool artists too.
Speaker B:I think one of my.
Speaker B:You and I were texting.
Speaker B:You were watching a punk rock show and I was watching this other artist sending videos to each other of shows in different states.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, like you do.
Speaker B:But it was a good time.
Speaker B:Good time.
Speaker B:Kiefer Sutherland was staying at my hotel.
Speaker B:I got to see him.
Speaker B:I like, didn't meet him, but I like because I.
Speaker B:He was like getting in his car and leaving.
Speaker B:But I got to see him within like 25ft of me.
Speaker B:That was pretty cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I would just be asking all sorts of Lost Boys things and be like, so, Michael, do you like your maggots or.
Speaker A:Without lying, Ross.
Speaker A:I think that's what it was.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:That's one of them.
Speaker B:So I've got to confess, there's another Kiefer Sutherland movie that I fucking love.
Speaker B:And it's not.
Speaker B:I don't know, by most standards, probably not great.
Speaker B:It's really fucked up.
Speaker B:Called Freeway.
Speaker B:It's him and Reese Witherspoon and she has a line in it and she goes full Southern Reese and she goes father fucker at him and it greatness.
Speaker B:So now I just want to be like mother fucker.
Speaker B:Anyways, that's.
Speaker B:That's what I wanted to do, but I didn't because I didn't want to look like an asshole to keep her for no reason.
Speaker A:Of all the things, you know, celebrities get yelled at.
Speaker A:That would be a very good one.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:But yeah, no, it was cool.
Speaker B:I only went to Broadway for a second there.
Speaker B:I was really sad.
Speaker B:There's a place I really want to go, so I want to go back to Nashville.
Speaker B:So we need to go.
Speaker B:My sister wants to go with us.
Speaker B:But there's a place called like.
Speaker B:Like a skulls Unicorn bar or something and they do like burlesque and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker B:It was right by the hotel I was in.
Speaker B:It looks super cute and you access from an alley.
Speaker B:So I need to go.
Speaker B:And if y' all have been.
Speaker B:Tell me if it's awesome.
Speaker B:It's got like fine dining.
Speaker B:It sounds.
Speaker A:I think I feel like I've been there, but who knows?
Speaker B:Anyway, so, yeah, that's my story.
Speaker B:It was good.
Speaker B:Other than that, I've just been mostly chilling.
Speaker B:We are counting down to our car show in Deep Ellum.
Speaker B:So I've been getting ready, working on that stuff in addition to just work being an ass whip.
Speaker B:But yeah, so we're kind of down to the invasion car show.
Speaker B:Invasion Car Show.com, if you'd like to register or get more information.
Speaker A:Nice little plug there.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:You're welcome.
Speaker B:So, yeah, tell me about Vegas.
Speaker A:Vegas was also an ass whip.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was Vegas.
Speaker A:I mean, we pretty much think the only time we went down to the Strip was on the very last day when we were trying to kill time because we had too much time before the airport.
Speaker A:And we're like, let's go to the Aquarium at Mandalay.
Speaker A:Because that sounds quiet.
Speaker A:That was the only time we went to the Strip.
Speaker A:For the most part, though, we're just downtown and I could see the venue from my hotel room, which meant I could hear the festival from my hotel room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So staying on Fremont street is not a quiet experience.
Speaker A:If any of you have done it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was a lot.
Speaker A:There is a lot of people.
Speaker A:But I saw, you know, like, we.
Speaker A:I don't think we saw a bad show except, like, there was like, one garage band that we're like, ugh, these guys.
Speaker A:But other than that, like, every.
Speaker A:I think also it was like, bands were so excited to play that, like, everybody just put on, like, fantastic shows.
Speaker A:I can't even count how many bands I saw.
Speaker A:I must have.
Speaker A:Must have seen, like over 100 bands.
Speaker A:So it was great.
Speaker A:It was really good to see live music out again.
Speaker A:Got to see, like, some bands I've known since I was like 18, you know, like, like playing the smaller shows afterwards.
Speaker A:So it was a great time.
Speaker A:And then I came home and died.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure I may have actually crossed over into the light at some point.
Speaker A:I was sick for, like, five days straight.
Speaker A:So I'm still not over it.
Speaker A:I will try very hard not to cough or to.
Speaker A:All I want to do is blow my nose and not have it feel like I am in a pressurized cabin of an airpl.
Speaker A:Because every time I blow my nose, like, my ears just pop.
Speaker A:And they're like.
Speaker A:They're popping so loud.
Speaker A:It's like, am I losing an ear?
Speaker A:Like an eardrum here?
Speaker A:This seems dangerous.
Speaker A:And like, every time it happens, it scares you.
Speaker A:And it's like, because you know what's going to happen.
Speaker A:And they're like, ah, oh my God, my ears.
Speaker A:And then, you know, like, oh, yeah, that's just going to be happening.
Speaker A:So that sounds upsetting it's been an upsetting week.
Speaker A:But thankfully, you know, I came back and didn't take time off of work.
Speaker A:And then I had to take time off work because I was.
Speaker A:It's just like, I cannot function.
Speaker A:You know, I'm literally like.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I don't know if it was Covid or if it was just.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know, I don't expose my immune system to a lot.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it was a lot of fun.
Speaker A:Glad it went.
Speaker A:Glad it happened.
Speaker A:The only thing I'm kind of annoyed about is Mariachi.
Speaker A:El Bronx was supposed to play, and they canceled because they had Covid.
Speaker A:And I was like, no big deal.
Speaker A:I'm seeing them in, like, next month in LA with Tiger.
Speaker A:And then, of course, this week, Tiger army canceled.
Speaker A:So I'm like, motherfucker.
Speaker A:Like, then we have my new white elephant band that I will always try and go see.
Speaker A:I mean, I saw the Bronx, but for those of you who don't know, like, there was a combination of the Bronx and then Mariachi.
Speaker A:Oh, Bronx becomes, like, fucking fantastic.
Speaker A:And this amazing.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:I got to see them once several years ago.
Speaker A:So I'm.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm hoping, like, I keep checking their website that they'll do a smaller sometimes, you know, like, because they cancel prv.
Speaker B:Bigger show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That maybe there'll be a smaller show somewhere, which would be great, because I would like that, too, but.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So LA is coming up and be there for Halloween.
Speaker A:So I am on mad Halloween costume.
Speaker A:This era happening now.
Speaker B:I know I need to work on that, too.
Speaker A:There's so much stuff going.
Speaker A:We did.
Speaker A:We're going to Hollywood Forever cemetery on the 30th for their Diaz Los Muertos celebration.
Speaker A:It's gonna be badass.
Speaker A:Like, it just looks amazing.
Speaker A:And I've always wanted to go to that cemetery, so.
Speaker A:And because Tiger army canceled, I may have an extra day to go spook hunting.
Speaker A:So hopefully I can find a.
Speaker A:There's like, an.
Speaker A:A cedar experience going on out right now in a house that's, like, kind of like it's supposed to be a haunted house that actually has, like, an interactive theater thing happening in.
Speaker A:It may do that, but I don't know.
Speaker A:We'll see.
Speaker A:Or I may just lie in my hotel room and enjoy not, you know, not people.
Speaker A:So I think, yeah, I mean, that's.
Speaker A:In a couple weeks.
Speaker A:Diana should be down here.
Speaker A:We will go see some.
Speaker A:Go find a Chupacabra.
Speaker A:This is not.
Speaker A:Count how many times Chupacabra gets mentioned in this episode.
Speaker A:Because you wouldn't think it would, but it's going to happen.
Speaker B:Chupacabra.
Speaker B:Chupacabra.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What are you.
Speaker B:Are you drinking something tonight?
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:I was going to get PBR in honor of Ash, but then I couldn't bring myself to drink that, and I had a bottle of wine open.
Speaker A:So I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm not drinking anything fancy.
Speaker A:Even though it's our or season two finale.
Speaker A:And I wanted to go out, but I'm like, I really should be drinking it all.
Speaker B:Probably say that.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, all right, girl.
Speaker A:Get it.
Speaker A:I was going to drink tea.
Speaker A:And then I was just like, well, whatever.
Speaker A:It's our last.
Speaker A:Last thing.
Speaker A:So I'm just drinking some Pinot War.
Speaker B:I've got.
Speaker B:I've got some vino nobile, multiple chiano nobile nobly.
Speaker A:And it's a noble of wines.
Speaker A:Nobody.
Speaker B:Nobody.
Speaker B:It's a gatovechi.
Speaker B:That's one of the ones I like.
Speaker A:I will stop offending all of the Italian listeners.
Speaker A:I'll go into French at some point.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get better.
Speaker A:So we do have a lot to cover.
Speaker B:We do all in.
Speaker B:We're gonna do both episodes in this one.
Speaker B:Fail Swoop.
Speaker B:And I hope y' all used your time when we were ready to get caught up on episodes, because it's.
Speaker B:We got some shit to digest here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Happened this episode.
Speaker A:Shit.
Speaker A:Shit happens.
Speaker A:Episodes.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:Robert Singer directed it and Sarah Gamble wrote it.
Speaker A:And then the second one, Camp Manners directed.
Speaker A:And Eric Kripke did the towel play.
Speaker A:Eric Kripke was really involved in both of these, so if you go watch the commentary, he.
Speaker A:Obviously, there's a lot of things that have been coming to fruition that are happening here.
Speaker A:So the second one, they did, like.
Speaker A:They didn't.
Speaker A:They weren't.
Speaker A:They did air a week later.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Still rough, man.
Speaker B:That's still rough.
Speaker B:We'll talk about it.
Speaker B:We'll get there.
Speaker A:Yeah, we'll get to the.
Speaker A:To the.
Speaker A:What's the rough part?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, so we're going to start offside.
Speaker A:This cute little cafe, Sunnyside Diner, which they built for this episode from scratch in the middle of.
Speaker A:Outside of Vancouver.
Speaker A:And if you'll notice, there's like a giant moat all the way around it.
Speaker A:And that's just as it kept raining because it's Vancouver.
Speaker A:And did you notice when they were walking, they were like walking in a dock, like, in between things.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I was like, huh, That's a random little building by itself in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker B:And the song playing for this intro is Boston's foreplay.
Speaker B:Slash, long time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I think I've gotten to Boston.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He said it was like, yeah.
Speaker A:And then he's like, they're joking about the onions.
Speaker A:And then Yodine wants pie.
Speaker A:And I made a note.
Speaker A:I'm like, please bring me a pie too.
Speaker A:But can you turn off Boston?
Speaker A:Because this topic's awful.
Speaker B:Yeah, fucking Boston.
Speaker B:And the radio starts skipping.
Speaker B:And so Dean knows something's fucked up because Sam's inside.
Speaker B:And you know.
Speaker B:And as we've all learned from this show, if your radio starts acting up, it means something fucked up is happening with spirit.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So Dean runs inside to go find Sam because it was supposed to be getting his food and pie.
Speaker B:And I was really bummed.
Speaker B:There's like a classic country song playing and I could not get it.
Speaker B:But anyways, that's inside.
Speaker B:I'm sure some on the Internet found it.
Speaker B:And it's going to tell me I'm dumb and didn't search hard enough, but.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, I wasn't paying attention to this on because I was looking at everything on the walls.
Speaker A:So there is this giant, like giant hamburger painting on the wall.
Speaker A:Like, which is so weird.
Speaker A:And Sarah said that the set direct designers just went crazy because they didn't have a motel in this episode.
Speaker A:So they're like, we're throwing everything in here.
Speaker A:Think about it.
Speaker A:They had no motel.
Speaker B:No motel.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:So Dean finds a bunch of dead people.
Speaker B:Dead guy in a booth, dead cooks.
Speaker B:And Sam's gone, but the back door's open and there's sulfur on the handle.
Speaker B:So now know fucking demon.
Speaker A:So why.
Speaker A:I really don't understand the sulfur thing.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:And we're going to talk about this obviously, but it's just like.
Speaker A:It's just this random thing.
Speaker A:Like, why are you dripping sulfur?
Speaker A:Like, is that like just.
Speaker B:It seems.
Speaker B:And it seems very selective as to when the sulfur is like spread.
Speaker B:And it seems also like it's really hard to be like super, like, sneaky sneaky if you leave sulfur everywhere.
Speaker B:It's bright yellow and it's stinky.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, so it's like, is it a fart?
Speaker A:Like, are they like running away and being like.
Speaker A:And just like leave like a demon fart on the wind?
Speaker A:Those are like.
Speaker A:They scamper off with like, whatever mischief they're going to do.
Speaker A:I mean, if I was a demon and I permitted sulfur farts, yeah, I would do that too.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So Dean's yelling for Sam.
Speaker B:And yeah, we've cut to Sam waking up on the ground outdoors in what looks like an old western town that's been abandoned.
Speaker A:Ghost town.
Speaker A:And this was actually supposed to be an industrial abandoned orphanage, but the city of Vancouver was like, hey, look at this great ghost set we have.
Speaker A:Do you want to film here?
Speaker A:You can film here for free.
Speaker A:And they're like, we like free.
Speaker A:They changed it and it does work.
Speaker A:Like, it really fits.
Speaker A:It ties in with the next episode as well.
Speaker B:So, yeah, and so he's got no cell service.
Speaker B:It's a band.
Speaker B:There's like no one around.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:But then he hears a noise and decides as he's wandering around and is about to smack someone upside the head.
Speaker B:But instead it's Andy from I Forget the Name episode who's also one of the psychic kids.
Speaker B:Like Sam.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I don't know how to describe.
Speaker B:Is that a good way to the birthday psychic kid?
Speaker B:Like, I don't know.
Speaker B:What do we call these kids?
Speaker A:Well, they call them psychic kids for.
Speaker A:And actually, so Sarah Gable calls in the Psychic Breakfast Club.
Speaker A:And so this whole thing, like, we think about it, like, there's so much.
Speaker A:If you watch, like, there's so much exposition that's being crammed into every time.
Speaker A:Like, you meet a new one of these kids, right?
Speaker A:Because you're like, hey, Andy.
Speaker A:Andy, what's going on?
Speaker A:What are you doing?
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And then always now we're like, oh, hey, Ava, what are you doing?
Speaker A:What's been going on?
Speaker A:And Ava's actual, like, character said, like a psychic Ally Sheedy.
Speaker A:So it's like, yeah, this is the Breakfast Club making the breakfast go fist.
Speaker B:It's in there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So speaking of Ava, she was like locked in a.
Speaker B:Like a shed of some sort.
Speaker B:So Sam breaks her out and she.
Speaker B:He asks her where she's been because Sam and Nina been looking for her for five months.
Speaker B:Because, remember, we left off, she disappeared.
Speaker B:They went to go, or she like left and.
Speaker B:And Sam was worried she didn't make it home safe, so he went to go look for her and they found her fiance dead and her gone and sulfur.
Speaker B:So she's like, oh, no, I saw you two days ago.
Speaker B:What are you talking about?
Speaker B:And is like, oh, my God, my fiance must be freaking out if I've been gone this long.
Speaker B:And Sam didn't say anything like, oh, he did.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's awkward.
Speaker A:Like there's gonna be a lot of this awkward positive.
Speaker A:Oh, Brady.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they hear another voice and there's Chu.
Speaker B:It's a army soldier walks up and saying that he just woke up in Afghanistan.
Speaker B:And then this chick Lily, who's real pissed.
Speaker B:Sound seeming just off the bat.
Speaker B:But so Sam.
Speaker B:Sam does what we all.
Speaker B:He verifies what we've already all figured out.
Speaker B:They're all the same age and they all have these abilities.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:To the psychic kids.
Speaker B:Okay, so.
Speaker B:Which is kind of like.
Speaker B:And then Andy talks about how much he's been like, working on his psychic abilities.
Speaker B:And he is now not only can he just like give suggestions of people to do things, he can put images in their head and tell the story about how there's a guy he doesn't like and so he puts gay porn in that guy's mind all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Grow up, Andy.
Speaker A:And then Lily gets really upset because, like, her powers.
Speaker A:You touches somebody, their heart stops.
Speaker A:And I'm like, that is a shitty superpower.
Speaker A:Superpowers to get.
Speaker A:Like, that one seems really fucked up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Unpleasant.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So she's like, I came into the house.
Speaker B:And then Sam is explaining him that the demon must have brought them all there.
Speaker B:And as you can imagine, people are probably not going to take that.
Speaker A:That's a diamond.
Speaker A:Diamonds.
Speaker B:So we cut.
Speaker B:And Dean's now with Bobby and they've got a map and they are trying to figure out they're looking for.
Speaker B:For Sam.
Speaker B:And they're pointing out that, like, everything on the map's pretty quiet right there.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden, Ash calls.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker B:And he's like, I don't have anything on where Sam is, but I've got some really huge news I can't share over the phone.
Speaker B:So they're going to roadhouse.
Speaker A:Roadhouse.
Speaker B:So we cut back.
Speaker B:There's a little cut back and forth here, back to Jake, our new psychic kid, and Ava.
Speaker B:And he, like, basically is like, they're like this, you know, and all them.
Speaker B:And it's like they think Sam's fucking crazy.
Speaker B:There's like.
Speaker B:He's talking about fucking demon wars and psychics and it's just too much, which is kind of fair.
Speaker B:And like, that's a lot process.
Speaker A:It is a lot to process.
Speaker A:But also, you were in Afghanistan last.
Speaker B:Night, buddy, and now you're not.
Speaker B:Now you're.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Jake kind of wanders off and sees like, some girl into, like, the little frontier town and sees, like a little girl in a window.
Speaker B:So he tries to go in, like, this old schoolhouse.
Speaker B:This is like, not.
Speaker B:I don't like the scene, as you can imagine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Also, I mean, I also, I. I knew in here, like, you would not like this, but, you know, if you're walking down the street of an abandoned ghost town and you see a tiny little ghost child in the window.
Speaker B:Yeah, don't go in there.
Speaker A:Don't go in there.
Speaker A:You keep walking.
Speaker B:You go.
Speaker A:You just wave.
Speaker A:You're like, hey, little ghost demon girl.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:Like, you don't go in and be like, what is this creepy ghost child doing?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, all of a sudden the chalkboard goes for being blank and here's like chalk on the board and then it says, I will not kill over and over and over again.
Speaker B:Well, that's a fucking lie, apparently.
Speaker B:But anyways, so a little girl, maybe.
Speaker A:If she'd been more, she would have learned.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't think she had enough times.
Speaker B:She had more chalkboard space.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so the little girl looks kind of cute for a second, and then she gets, like, creepy long nails and fucked up eyes and she looks real scary.
Speaker B:So I don't like it.
Speaker A:Yeah, and she has a bow, too.
Speaker A:The bow just makes it worse.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker B:On a creepy kid.
Speaker B:Not good.
Speaker B:But then Sam shows up, of course, and has like a fireplace poker and like, smacks her with it and she turns to black smoke and disappears.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Which is weird.
Speaker A:And so it's weird because she's not a ghost.
Speaker A:She's a demon.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So Sam goes like, I know what we're dealing with as Makiri.
Speaker A:And so Akiri.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're a type of demon.
Speaker A:And so they are believed to be nature spirits that are created when a young girl dies a tragic and a timely death.
Speaker A:And this is from one of my favorite podcasts, Astonishing Legends.
Speaker A:So this is all their research, not mine.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:I had too much of the things to research and I was dying, so.
Speaker A:But basically, you know, like, as a kid, turtle eyes gets kept short and she comes back to the mortal plane to try and cause suffering of the people who are still alive.
Speaker A:And usually it targets other children.
Speaker A:And usually who's like, I'm a small, underfed young girl.
Speaker A:And so if it's a kid, they're going to try and gain their trust by playing with them, but their adults are going to be like, I'm a victim.
Speaker A:Help me.
Speaker A:And they're also supposed to be able to like, shape shift and stuff.
Speaker A:They live in caves and they come around dust to hunt.
Speaker A:They also are said to feed or gain power from human misery.
Speaker A:So, like, if they have like death and disease around them, they're going to grow more powerful.
Speaker A:And I also learned a really great term from a thousand two legends.
Speaker A:So they're also a psychopomp.
Speaker A:That is the best word I have heard all.
Speaker A:Psychopomp.
Speaker B:Didn't all our friends have that hairdo?
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure all of my friends had psychopomp.
Speaker A:So technically, though, psychopoms are omens of death.
Speaker A:And if you encounter one and they do not try and hunt you down, they will merely sing that it means that there's illness and death that are soon to follow.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So psychopomp, that was the best thing I learned.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Anyways, then this is the point where it's kind of important.
Speaker B:Sam recognizes the bell that was in the town square.
Speaker B:So, like the town square and there's this giant bell and it's got like this oak tree on it.
Speaker B:And so it's Cold Oak, South Dakota, which is a town that was so haunted that everybody fucking left.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Cold Oak doesn't exist, but it is apparently was largely based on a town in Pennsylvania called Dudleytown that was also a town rumored to be so cursed that everybody fled.
Speaker A:The town turned into a horrible place where people committed suicide or went insane.
Speaker A: And by the: Speaker A:It's cut off to visitors.
Speaker A:Like, you can't go in there.
Speaker A:So there's some interesting stuff.
Speaker A:At some point we'll get back to Deadly Town.
Speaker B:Terrifying.
Speaker B:Terrifying.
Speaker B:But I'm also like, just rebellious enough be like, why can't I go in there?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I want to go.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker A:Dudley Town.
Speaker A:I also don't want to go back to Pennsylvania.
Speaker A:Sorry, pa.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I don't really love you.
Speaker B:So anyways.
Speaker B:But Lily.
Speaker B:Lily.
Speaker B:Lily's pissed about this whole thing still.
Speaker B:And she's like, nope, fuck this, I'm leaving.
Speaker B:And basically.
Speaker B:And she confesses at this point that she accidentally killed her girlfriend by touching her on accident.
Speaker B:Which is really sad.
Speaker B:And my comment is that I don't trust Lily at this point in the.
Speaker B:In the notes.
Speaker B:But that's me.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But she's, you know, Sam's worried that Dean's dead.
Speaker B:We all need to stick together kind of pep talk.
Speaker B:And Go collect up all the iron and silver and salt that we can.
Speaker B:Everybody's like, wait, what?
Speaker B:But they do it.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Let's go look for salt, people.
Speaker B:Here's this.
Speaker B:And then Bobby and Dean pull up to Road House and it's a very sad scene because Roadhouse is no more.
Speaker A:It's gone.
Speaker B:Roadhouse has been burned down completely.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And with people in it.
Speaker A:With people in it.
Speaker A:And the first thing you see, I don't know if you notice this, but there is a monkey on the ground.
Speaker A:Did you see it?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, so now that I've mentioned it, if you ever go back and do a rewatch, every time you go into the Roadhouse, you're going to notice a monkey.
Speaker A:And I just, I waited until now to talk about the monkey because it's important here.
Speaker A:But so when George Newman, who is one of the set decorators, joined, he brought this porcelain monkey that he had used in other shows and basically became part of the Roadhouse and became part of Harvell's.
Speaker A:But like, every director that shoots there always starts on the monkey and then pulls out.
Speaker A:So if you go back and look at the other episode, like even at the beginning of this episode when they're talking to Ash, they start, start off with the monkey and then they pan out.
Speaker A:So like the production designer wanted the monkey to go away because the directors kept like focusing on the fucking monkey.
Speaker A:But they're like, oh no, the monkey stays.
Speaker A:And so when the Roadhouse burned down, Robert Singer was like, george, give me that monkey.
Speaker A:And they scorched it and they put it down.
Speaker A:So on the scene, the first thing you see is like the burnt monkey.
Speaker B:Well, then they're walking through, trying to figure out who, what was there, what happened, and they see a wrist with a watch.
Speaker B:And it's Ash's watch.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which was also another funny story because one this is, they had that watch that they had, like in the first scene, like you saw it on there, you're like, this was very obvious that Ash is looking at the time on his wrist.
Speaker A:And they said like Crypti said for weeks I was writing it's a corpse with a mullet.
Speaker A:And that's all they wanted to have is like a burnt out corpse of the mullet.
Speaker A:And finally they were like, I guess we can't show the charred mullet corpse.
Speaker A:So that's why the watch is there.
Speaker A:But I would have preferred to see like my, my mullet one more time.
Speaker A:So for you, Ash pouring one out.
Speaker A:And like I said, I'd be Drinking pbr.
Speaker A:But that's disgusting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker B:So we cut back to South Dakota, and Lily is off in the woods by her fucking self because she's a dummy.
Speaker B:And she left.
Speaker B:Tried to leave.
Speaker B:And of course she hears giggling and rustling around.
Speaker B:So we know bad shit's about to happen to Lily.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But Sam and the others are all looking for.
Speaker B:Trying to gather weapons.
Speaker B:That's when they realize that Lily's fucking gone.
Speaker B:And anyways, that's when Ava's having some weird dizzy spell.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:But Sam found a spittoon.
Speaker A:Did you see that?
Speaker A:He found a spittoon.
Speaker B:And a spittoon.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And they start hearing giggling, and they're like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:So they go outside, and Lily's been hung from the windmill in the center town.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is a pretty epic.
Speaker A:I like that shot.
Speaker B:A lot of her, like, hanging there, like, intense.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they're all upset, and.
Speaker B:And Ava's really upset.
Speaker B:And they're basically.
Speaker B:It's like they were not, you know, they're.
Speaker B:They're basically.
Speaker B:How are we chosen ones when we're all just gonna get killed here?
Speaker B:So they want to leave, but they realize they can't because Lily tried and failed.
Speaker B:So Jake's the one that goes to take the body down.
Speaker B:And Andy decides that he is going to try to connect psychically with Dean.
Speaker B:So it's one cool thing about, like, I guess Andy's newfound psychic abilities is he's going to try to send an image to Dean of where they are.
Speaker A:Think of, like, the data plan you could have with that.
Speaker A:Like, you would never have to text or call.
Speaker A:Just be like.
Speaker A:And then like, oh, look, there's, like.
Speaker A:I've got.
Speaker A:Here's my headphone.
Speaker A:Paging Dean.
Speaker A:Paging Dr. Hasselhoff.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So you cut back to Bobby and Dean.
Speaker B:And Dean starts getting, like, a gnarly headache and, like, falling over.
Speaker B:But he sees flashes of the bell and just kind of confused and.
Speaker B:But then he realized that what he saw.
Speaker B:So he tells Bobby.
Speaker B:Bobby's kind of worried, and they're like, oh.
Speaker B:Bobby's like, I know where the fuck that is.
Speaker B:I know where he is.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Because you're the smartest Bobby.
Speaker A:Team Bobby.
Speaker A:So this is.
Speaker A:Oh, Team Bobby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So because you're the smartest Bobby.
Speaker A:And then we're going to flashback to Soldier Boy at this point.
Speaker A:This is when I started calling Jake Soldier Boy.
Speaker A:I have many nicknames for Jake during this, but at this point, I kept getting that Soulja Boy stuck in my head, Superman.
Speaker A:Oh, and then watch me crank it.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:So every time he talks, I'm like, he's like, we have to be strong.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, crank it, Superman.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, so apparently that's his psychic power isn't really psychic.
Speaker B:It's super strong.
Speaker B:But so apparently he talks about how he like benches all this way, but he has to kind of like keep it secret.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And he's talking about kind of how he appreciates.
Speaker B:So this kind of.
Speaker B:This actually is kind of like a.
Speaker B:Well, this part's a little bit well written, being like a military kind of mindset.
Speaker B:Talking about how Sam, he appreciates Sam kind of really keeping calm, even though I know you're kind of freaked out because, you know, in military environments or in leadership or in high stress situations, you have to have a leader that can.
Speaker B:Or someone that steps into a leadership role that can kind of keep it cool even when shit's not cool.
Speaker B:So that was kind of interesting that he points out a.
Speaker B:He points out that he's observant enough to know that Sam is freaking the fuck out, but also that he's, you know, appreciates that Sam is keeping it together even though she's fucked.
Speaker A:Like an incident commander.
Speaker B:Yeah, like an incident commander.
Speaker B:Just like that.
Speaker B:So they've.
Speaker B:They said they clear out a place for the night and they've got salt spread out.
Speaker B:They're like fucking chilling.
Speaker B:They've got a space where they think they'll be safe overnight to keep.
Speaker B:Keep demons and spirits out of it while they hang out.
Speaker B:And then Ava and Sam have an awkward conversation where has to tell her that her fiance's dead.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, it was time because that was getting really awkward.
Speaker A:Like, at what point do you, like, not tell somebody that, you know, fiance's dead?
Speaker A:Like you've known this for a while and you just kind of let this go.
Speaker A:Sam.
Speaker B:So they're all starting to like, doze off.
Speaker B:They're trying to like, you know, take turns taking watch or whatever.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But Sam starts to doze off and good old Yellow Eyes appears.
Speaker B:So we know that this is a dream because only Sam can see and hear him at this point.
Speaker B:And this is where my notes I realized.
Speaker B:So, you know, I know the show is called.
Speaker B:Show calls him the Yellow Eyed Demon.
Speaker B:We call them Old Yellow Eyes because we're ridiculous.
Speaker B:And I realized that my notes shorthand because I abbreviate like sd Sam and Dean, obviously.
Speaker B:But my abbreviations for Old Yellow Eyes would.
Speaker B:Is Y E for Yellow Eyes.
Speaker B:So if you saw our Instagram, that was my.
Speaker B:It was Babe's wonderful creation for us.
Speaker B:Of.
Speaker B:Of Kanye.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So there you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this is where now we've got good old Sam and good old Yellow Eyes having a convo.
Speaker B:And this is where Sam finds out that this isn't just, like, some test or some weird shit with all the psychic kids there.
Speaker B:It's a fucking contest.
Speaker B:This is fucking Hunger Games.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've got Hunger Games reference also.
Speaker A:Mad Sam is mad.
Speaker A:His face.
Speaker A:I was like, this is what Jared Padalecki looked like when he threw a tantrum when he was five.
Speaker A:Like, I can clearly see what, like, Jared's mom saw when he was like, but I want to.
Speaker A:Peanut butter sandwich.
Speaker A:Like, totally.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And Yellow Eyes does tell Sam that, you know, he's rooting for him and that it's a Miss American pageant.
Speaker A:And apparently, like, Cricket told Sarah that she was not allowed to call it American Idol.
Speaker A:And so that's why it's not America.
Speaker A:Miss America pageant.
Speaker A:But we also start going into my other theory, which is this islander.
Speaker A:And there can be only one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And, like, because the whole premise is all along, I'm like, they thought that.
Speaker B:That Sam and Dina thought that they were creating all these psychic kids so he can make an army of psychic kids.
Speaker B:And Yellow Eyes is like, nah, I've just made a bunch of psych kids.
Speaker B:They can fight each other to the death.
Speaker B:So the strongest one could be the leader.
Speaker B:Like, well, that's troubling.
Speaker B:But okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:At this point, he starts getting, like, real creepy.
Speaker B:Super fucking creepy.
Speaker B:The best of this generation.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, like, favorite.
Speaker A:You're my favorite, Sammy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's so gross.
Speaker A:And it's not, like, for the next, like, scene, like, he just gets creepy.
Speaker A:Beer and creepier.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's like, oh, no, I'm going to have a monologue here.
Speaker A:I'm going to tell you all the stuff about that I've done.
Speaker A:Oh, no, I killed Jess.
Speaker A:Because you need to be strong.
Speaker A:Mom just, like, walked in.
Speaker A:It was bad luck.
Speaker A:And it was like, there's, like, it's always been about you, which is creepy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He just sounds like a pedo.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then they flash.
Speaker B:Stop stalking.
Speaker A:And then they flash back to the scene with Mary, and there's a guy in a trench coat and standing over the baby, which is not helping.
Speaker A:This whole.
Speaker A:I'm a creepy chomo.
Speaker A:Like, it's just there.
Speaker A:And also, if you look like Sam is, like, getting really upset and there's a stuffed duck behind him, which makes the seat even better.
Speaker A:Then he starts bleeding in the baby's mouth and says, better than mother's milk.
Speaker A:Not helping.
Speaker A:Not helping.
Speaker B:So gross.
Speaker A:Because then apparently it also became like a.
Speaker A:Like a thing on the set because they're like.
Speaker A:It was an actual baby, and they're like, we had.
Speaker A:Can only drip certain things in the baby's mouth.
Speaker A:So it's like, you think about, like, all the weird stuff that people use on set to, like, be blood.
Speaker A:And they're like, well, you know, maybe we can't throw that in actual infant's mouth.
Speaker A:Maybe that's not a good idea.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not good.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So Jake finally wakes up.
Speaker B:Sam and Ava's missing.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker A:Oh, sorry.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:One other point that.
Speaker A:So I think one other thing, which is probably foreshadowing.
Speaker A:I don't know if it is or not, but Mary.
Speaker A:Mary knew the demon, right?
Speaker A:She was like that.
Speaker A:I think that's probably important for the future.
Speaker B:Probably.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker A:But it was.
Speaker A:But Sam noticed it too, right?
Speaker A:It was just like, wait, like she.
Speaker A:She knew who you were.
Speaker A:Like, clearly there is something here that this means also he has demon blood in him, right?
Speaker A:And that really freaks him out.
Speaker B:I don't think you, like, digest that and it goes away.
Speaker B:I feel like if it's demon blood, like, that sticks with you.
Speaker A:Does it?
Speaker B:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, technically that's just running through your stomach.
Speaker A:It's not like you're getting a transfusion of demon blood.
Speaker A:You just ate it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And so, like, if I eat a pineapple, like, I don't become a pineapple.
Speaker A:I just eat a pineapple.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:I know, but I feel like demon blood's, like, different.
Speaker A:If I lick your blood, which I'm not going to do, because that's disgusting and not just not sanitary, but also, I would not become Diana.
Speaker A:I would just of like.
Speaker B:But I don't have demon blood.
Speaker B:So how do you know if.
Speaker B:What would happen with demon blood?
Speaker A:I somehow doubt that would bypass your stomach.
Speaker A:And, like, because this is the flaw I find with this show.
Speaker A:Like, you cannot just eat demon blood.
Speaker A:I'm done.
Speaker B:This is the line.
Speaker B:This is the line that you drew across.
Speaker A:I'm done.
Speaker A:I am done.
Speaker A:When was over.
Speaker A:Show's over.
Speaker A:No more.
Speaker A:No trap.
Speaker B:Check it out.
Speaker B:It's over.
Speaker A:Okay, Sorry.
Speaker A:So back to Sam waking up, and.
Speaker B:This is a really bad scene.
Speaker B:Like, this seems fucked up.
Speaker B:Like, this was very upsetting Here we go.
Speaker B:Are you ready?
Speaker B:Are we buckled up?
Speaker B:Buckled up for this shit?
Speaker B:So they wake up, or Sam wakes up, Ava's missing.
Speaker B:They split up to go find her.
Speaker B:And of course she's like creepily watching because duh, Andy is.
Speaker B:Stays behind.
Speaker B:They kind of like holding watch where they were at for the night.
Speaker B:But she shows up behind him, like, all creepy, like, what the fuck?
Speaker B:And is a salt line room.
Speaker B:We know that.
Speaker B:And breaks the salt line in the window very secretly.
Speaker B:This is bad.
Speaker B:Now we know this is bad.
Speaker B:So we're like, oh, fuck.
Speaker B:What's wrong with Ava?
Speaker B:Is she possessed?
Speaker B:Or something weird happened.
Speaker B:She plugs her ears, smoke comes in.
Speaker B:Demonic little girl comes in, attacks Andy and kills him.
Speaker B:Andy was kind of a douche, but I didn't hate him.
Speaker A:So sad.
Speaker B:So he lost Andy and Ash.
Speaker B:Ash is way better than.
Speaker A:Than Andy, but still so much better when you mean there is no comparison between the two.
Speaker B:And he had a sweet van.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was about to say.
Speaker A:And he had a bitching van.
Speaker A:So, I mean, right?
Speaker A:Maybe like him, like, what happens to that van now?
Speaker B:So ends up she's screaming.
Speaker B:Sam shows up.
Speaker A:She's like, I just found Andy like this.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And Sam notices the line broken in the sand or in the salt.
Speaker B:So she.
Speaker B:So now he's like, super suspicious.
Speaker B:She's like, busted.
Speaker B:She's been here.
Speaker B:She's been there for like five fucking months.
Speaker B:This is not her first round.
Speaker B:She's just the last one standing.
Speaker B:So she's been killing motherfuckers for months.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this is like, okay, so this is where I got the Hunger Games in my.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker A:So I was like, Ava's been killing them since when they came to town.
Speaker A:And I was like, like, the Hunger Games, like, Last Chance Kitchen.
Speaker A:Like Halloween Wars.
Speaker A:And it's like this reality show is like, you know, where all of them are coming in and, like, they just have to keep, like, fighting off, like, oh, I have a new competitor coming in and it's my turn to take hilarious.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:And so now she apparently can control demons.
Speaker B:That's one of her new skills that she's learned with her psychic abilities.
Speaker B:So Jake conveniently comes up from behind and snaps her neck.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:He broke the fuck.
Speaker A:Which is really hard to do.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, so we're going to.
Speaker B:He's got super strength, but he's got super strength.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker B:Superman.
Speaker B:Say whoa.
Speaker A:Superman.
Speaker A:All right, so at this point, we're going to flip that to Bobby and Dean coming up.
Speaker A:And before we get to that on the commentary, Kripke and Singer were talking about Baby.
Speaker A:And this point, she wasn't named Baby.
Speaker A:And so the fans had a name for her.
Speaker A:And I'm so glad it did not stick.
Speaker A:They called her Metallicar.
Speaker B:I saw it somewhere online and I was annoying ignore it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So apparently like all the live journaling kids, especially Live Journal, that's like what they were calling her.
Speaker A:And I'm so glad that Baby is what stuck and not Metallica.
Speaker A:Oh, awful.
Speaker A:What were you thinking?
Speaker B:This makes me judge other fans of the show.
Speaker B:Sorry, guys.
Speaker A:If you called him Metallica, we were judging you.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, they decide they have to go into town on foot because the road's blocked.
Speaker B:That's the quick overview of the Bobby and Sam showing up.
Speaker B:But that means they're there, so that's good news.
Speaker B:So Sam's like a.
Speaker B:Maybe we can leave now that Ava's gone because she's not here to sub and demons.
Speaker B:This will be sweet.
Speaker B:Let's escape.
Speaker B:Escape.
Speaker B:But Jake also had the same vision that Sam did with Yi and knows they can't both leave.
Speaker B:But Jake's confident he can kill all Yellow Eyes.
Speaker B:But not so sure Sam can.
Speaker B:Now they gotta fight.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it actually is a really good fight scene.
Speaker B:It's a good fight scene.
Speaker B:And like, I'm kind of impressed.
Speaker B:Sam, like, well, it's a little bit like, okay, if he had that much strength, Sam would not be holding his own that way.
Speaker B:Well, but either way, Sam holds his own for a hot minute while good old Jake with super strength is trying to kick his ass.
Speaker B:Dean shows up as they're fighting and.
Speaker B:But Sam.
Speaker B:So Sam refuses to kill Jake because we all know Sam has a soft spot.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Everybody knows this.
Speaker B:This is Sam's downfall.
Speaker B:And also probably the best part of his humanity is that he does have a soft spot for human life.
Speaker B:Does not want to kill Jake if he does not have to kill Jake.
Speaker B:So he walks off.
Speaker B:And as him and Dean connect, Sam gets stabbed real bad the back by Jake.
Speaker B:Like real bad.
Speaker B:Like real bad.
Speaker A:He does real bad.
Speaker A:And then Sam fucking dies.
Speaker B:No,.
Speaker A:I have in my notes.
Speaker A:Aren't you glad I didn't make you wait a week, Diana?
Speaker B:I would have fucking killed you.
Speaker B:Yeah, so this is where the point where I was like, if I was watching this in real time and had to wait a week, I'd have been so pissed.
Speaker B:But also, here's my asshole comment is I know I've got like 15 more fucking seasons and I've seen enough Previews that.
Speaker B:I know that it's gonna be okay.
Speaker B:I just wanna know how they make it okay for now.
Speaker A:Well, even if you're watching this show, I mean, in real time, it's still intense.
Speaker B:It's still intense no matter what.
Speaker B:Even knowing that, oh, it's gonna get.
Speaker B:I know the series doesn't end.
Speaker B:I mean, I know.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, and then completely racks it up in the next episode too.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay, like I said, we're.
Speaker A:We're doing these back to back, so we're not gonna take a ton of pauses here.
Speaker A:But anything else, like just kind of on that first setup.
Speaker A:Anything you want to talk about that before we move on to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To episode two?
Speaker B:No, I think it was just a super intense, like, you know, there's like that.
Speaker B:That torn moment of like, are we relieved that.
Speaker B:That they got to be reunited first or, you know, be pretending like.
Speaker B:I was, you know, I was going into the next episode right away.
Speaker B:Thank you, Netflix.
Speaker B:But I was also, you know, like, holy fuck.
Speaker B:I mean, this is intense.
Speaker B:And they kind of like, you know, he's dead.
Speaker B:But you don't like.
Speaker B:No, no, it's like a good.
Speaker B:Like, it's a good little cliffhanger there.
Speaker B:You're like, no, no, he's not.
Speaker B:Be fine.
Speaker B:He'll be fine.
Speaker B:You know, you, like, tell yourself that.
Speaker B:But no, I think it would have been.
Speaker B:And obviously Dean's trying to convince himself of that, which only tells you that it's not okay, basically.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:No, it was a good, good, good, good little cliffhanger.
Speaker B:As much as it's annoying.
Speaker B:I hate a cliffhanger, but I appreciate it.
Speaker A:No, no, it means, you know, there is something important going on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It means you care.
Speaker B:It means you care what happens.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we're roll right into episode 22.
Speaker A:But one of the things that happens, and I'm not sure if, because you.
Speaker A:While you're going on Netflix, So at the beginning of 22, and, you know, Supernatural does this at the.
Speaker A:The last episode of every season, which is, you know, Wayward Son and the Road so Far.
Speaker A:And they do this.
Speaker A:So, Diana, you have homework.
Speaker A:Go back and watch this shit.
Speaker A:So they didn't show.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:You probably just had Skip recap on like, so with Netflix.
Speaker B:I'll check.
Speaker B:I didn't think I did check.
Speaker A:I know it's on the dvd, but I pretty sure it's on the Netflix too.
Speaker A:So they do, like, you know, just the recap of up till now.
Speaker A:And it's always like, the way it's cut with the music in the background.
Speaker A:Like, they pull your emotional strings like nobody's fucking business.
Speaker A:So kudos to the editors.
Speaker A:You put that together because it's fucking brilliant.
Speaker A:So, like, it still makes me all sappy and emotional when.
Speaker A:When Wayward Son starts playing, I get to watch, like, what's happened so far.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, so that happens.
Speaker A:Listen to that.
Speaker A:If you haven't.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But we're going to start off with Dean just looking at Sam's body.
Speaker B:Well, and so my note, because I'm trying to be optimistic here.
Speaker B:In my notes, I was like, sam is unconscious on a mattress, and Dean's watching him.
Speaker B:I'm like, this is obviously, he's done, but that's just me, Michael.
Speaker A:So you thought he was unconscious?
Speaker A:You didn't think he was dead?
Speaker B:He's a little waxy.
Speaker B:I'm just being optimistic.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:I have much to say about Sam's corpse.
Speaker A:But, so, yeah, we got dead Sam and Dean looking over him.
Speaker B:And Bobby's got chicken.
Speaker A:Bobby's got a bucket of fried chicken.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, thank you, sir.
Speaker A:And I'm like, you do not say no to the bucket of fried chicken.
Speaker B:I am so.
Speaker B:It actually made me want a bucket of fried chicken.
Speaker A:I want a bucket of fried chicken so bad.
Speaker A:And there's no Kentucky Fried Chicken in my town.
Speaker A:We've got, like, Chicken Express or something good.
Speaker A:Is it?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's in the parking lot of Home Depot and it scares me.
Speaker A:Like, I'm pretty sure it's gross, but.
Speaker B:Probably better than kfc, honestly.
Speaker A:Okay, well, they do have buckets of chicken.
Speaker A:They also fried okra.
Speaker A:I looked at their menu one time,.
Speaker B:And then I like, they've got iced tea, in case you're wondering.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:But yeah, so Demoni and mine note.
Speaker B:My notes say, oh, fuck.
Speaker B:Bobby asks if it's time to bury Sam, because that's all I could muster at that moment to process.
Speaker A:And Dean doesn't want him to.
Speaker A:And I was like, well, maybe Dean's, like, doing, like, a Victorian morning ritual, you know, and, like, wants to, like, dress, like, all in black and, like, put on some arm bands and cover up all the mirrors and, like, put in, like, there.
Speaker A:But yeah, I'm like, no, no, this is starting to get gross.
Speaker B:Okay, so, yeah, Sam says, not yet.
Speaker B:But Bobby's like, you.
Speaker B:You don't need to be alone anymore.
Speaker B:You need to fucking eat.
Speaker B:You need to not stay here by yourself.
Speaker B:It's not healthy.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But also, Bobby needs Dean because there's a bunch of shit going down.
Speaker B:Like, it's like end of the world level shit.
Speaker B:So that's not good.
Speaker B:Dean's attitude, though, at this point, you see that?
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:Not that I would.
Speaker B:I'm not saying Dean should be handling this back matter.
Speaker B:Not saying that.
Speaker B:Not saying anybody should mourn any specific way.
Speaker B:But Dean is not handling this in a great way right now for his own mental health.
Speaker B:His attitude about the world ending is let it end.
Speaker B:He's basically giving up on everything Bobby used to leave and.
Speaker B:And shoves him even.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And when he's very sad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When he puts up.
Speaker A:Bobby is really, really hurt.
Speaker A:And I can't handle Bobby being hurt because he's trying so hard.
Speaker B:And he is just like Dean's shoving him away.
Speaker B:And Dean's very.
Speaker B:Feels bad about it too.
Speaker B:Like, he apologizes.
Speaker B:It's really sad.
Speaker B:But Bobby leaves and Dean's just crying.
Speaker B:It's just all bad.
Speaker A:Well, he's crying in this house and now has a bucket of fried chicken, a bunch of whiskey, a corpse.
Speaker A:And Dean, he probably hasn't showered in three days.
Speaker A:Do you know how this place must smell?
Speaker A:Like, worse than the demon farts.
Speaker A:Like, you know, so like if a.
Speaker B:Demon give me those sulfur farts all day long over this.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so we cut to Jake.
Speaker B:Because remember, he escaped after stabbing.
Speaker B:He escaped after stabbing Sam.
Speaker A:At this point, I'm like, oh, look, it's Jake from State Farm.
Speaker B:So you've gone from Superman, Superman, soldier boy.
Speaker A:And now it's Jake from State Farm.
Speaker B:Good Lord.
Speaker A:I may have been a little stoned when I watched this episode.
Speaker B:So he's not in a uniform anymore.
Speaker B:And of course he shows up your lies.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And he congratulates him, basically.
Speaker B:And so Jake tells him to go to fucking hell.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But he's like, yeah, I need the strongest.
Speaker B:And Jake's like, no, I'm gonna hunt you down and fucking kill you.
Speaker B:And he's like, no, you're not.
Speaker B:Cause I will kill your mother and sister and feed their intestines to them before they die.
Speaker A:Well, he also told him to be a good little soldier, like, soldier boy.
Speaker A:So then I went back to soldier boy.
Speaker A:So soldier twice in bed.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, so then we're gonna cut back to Sam's corpse on this mattress.
Speaker B:And it's a gross mattress too.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I mean, do you put a corpse on a nice mattress?
Speaker A:I mean, you don't want to, but I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:The seepage Is there a blanket?
Speaker A:Like, like, the corpse juices are just, like, pouring down, like, like one of.
Speaker B:Those mattress covers for, like, the little kids.
Speaker B:So when they pee, like a little.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or like, the anti dust mites, like, that would be nice in there.
Speaker A:But no, we just.
Speaker A:We just have this corpse draining on here mattress.
Speaker A:And then I also started wondering if, like, his corpses doing, like, the things that corpses normally do.
Speaker A:Like, was it farting and burping and like, maybe like, standing up and, like.
Speaker A:So is Dean just put in this room with, like, a farting corpse sand?
Speaker A:There's a lot of farts in this episode.
Speaker A:Sorry, guys.
Speaker B:Yeah, this has hearts on the brain tonight.
Speaker A:This is gassy.
Speaker A:Yeah, so it's just a gassy.
Speaker A:I don't think I ate dinner, but no.
Speaker B:You had pimento cheese on Cheetos, ma'.
Speaker B:Am.
Speaker A:Well, yes, I did.
Speaker A:So for those of you who don't know, if you put.
Speaker A:If you dip a Cheeto into pimento cheese and it's a jalapeno, it has to be the jalapeno pimento cheese.
Speaker A:And that's why I was tasting it, because they were out of the normal pimento cheese and they brought me the jalapeno one.
Speaker A:And so I was.
Speaker A:So I was tasting it, and then I had a bag of Cheetos open up.
Speaker A:Was like, well, what is the Cheetos like with the pimento?
Speaker A:And then if you dip it in there, it becomes like a wig for the Cheetos.
Speaker A:And then we'll click on a picture.
Speaker A:It's a fucking Cheeto Muppet.
Speaker A:And, like, I don't know how I created it, but I did.
Speaker A:Anyway, so while I'm sitting here contemplating, like, the corpse, like, burping and farting, then Dean starts going into some really profound shit.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And he starts.
Speaker A:There's man tears.
Speaker A:And then he goes into this pity party.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's very emotional and about how, you know, talking about their childhood and how much he tried to protect them, and he failed to do that, but he's sorry.
Speaker B:And that how he just lets.
Speaker B:Then he goes into the pity party about how he just lets down everyone that he loves and he doesn't know how to live with that or what to do.
Speaker B:And it's very, very sad.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was incredible lighting, though.
Speaker A:They did this a great job of, like, having these shadows cast on Dean's face if you're watching.
Speaker A:Like, when I was watching, I was like, it was just so beautifully done.
Speaker B:Ye.
Speaker A:And then he starts shouting, what am I supposed to do?
Speaker A:And then I got violent fems stuck in my head.
Speaker A:So what am I supposed to do?
Speaker A:What am I supposed to do?
Speaker B:He goes for a drive like you do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's pulling out fast as I'm pulling out.
Speaker A:But he's also driving with a purpose like you have never seen.
Speaker A:The Dean has a place.
Speaker A:I go.
Speaker B:Oh, he's on a mission.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's on a mission.
Speaker B:Mission.
Speaker B:And when he gets to his destination, that we find out about in a second, he goes to Trunk team Trunk.
Speaker A:Chunk.
Speaker A:Chunk.
Speaker A:We actually had another portion of Chunky.
Speaker A:We didn't bring up the.
Speaker A:Bobby and Dean, like, opened her up and, like, so we've had.
Speaker A:Trunk has had a couple of things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:She had one.
Speaker B:One earlier when they were pulling stuff up.
Speaker B:But this is a better one because he's digging around, he's rooting around and gets a little box.
Speaker B:So where do we know he is if he's got a little tin box and he's been out driving up the middle of nowhere.
Speaker B:Nowhere is at the crossroads.
Speaker A:That stuff looks like he's gonna summon a demon.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Demon summon.
Speaker B:So she shows up.
Speaker A:Bad Dean.
Speaker B:Bad decision, Dean.
Speaker B:She shows up.
Speaker B:Her eyes flash red.
Speaker A:And he shows up as he's yelling, show your face, you bitch.
Speaker B:Well, that too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:She was a little slow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I'd be like, you.
Speaker A:No, like, you're calling me.
Speaker A:I'll show up.
Speaker A:Like, I'm a goddamn demon.
Speaker A:I'll show up whenever I want.
Speaker B:I do what I want.
Speaker B:I'm demon.
Speaker A:Do what I want.
Speaker A:Tell me what to do, Dean.
Speaker B:But she's really enjoying that he's suffering, which is really fucking sad.
Speaker B:And she knows what he wants.
Speaker B:And she's like, no.
Speaker B:Not going to do it now.
Speaker B:And he just keeps negotiating because he wants to bring Sam back and is offering his soul.
Speaker B:And in a.
Speaker B:In like, for like 10 years of life.
Speaker B:And his soul.
Speaker B:That's all he wants for Dean or for Sam?
Speaker B:Excuse me?
Speaker B:That's what Dean's offering to the demon.
Speaker B:She keeps going, no, no, no.
Speaker B:And he keeps lowering the years.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Well, she does say needy guys are a turn off.
Speaker A:And they are.
Speaker A:And I have that noted.
Speaker A:And she also noted that Sam is starting to smell.
Speaker A:So I am not the only person worried about.
Speaker B:You caught that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's not good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then they go down to one year.
Speaker B:And then if he.
Speaker B:And if Dean tries to break the deal for any reason, Sam will drop dead.
Speaker B:And they seal the deal.
Speaker A:Then they make out.
Speaker B:I do that a lot.
Speaker B:Watching this episode?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam wakes up alone, his stab wounds pretty much healed in his back.
Speaker B:And Dean just walks in and gives him a hug.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, ow.
Speaker A:It's very huggy.
Speaker B:Very, very, very huggy and just nonchalant.
Speaker B:He's like, glad to see you up and around.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And it pieces together what Sam remembers and doesn't remember.
Speaker B:And basically, like, Sam just basically remembers Dean and Bobby, like, showing up and then being a ton of pain and that's about it.
Speaker B:But he doesn't really understand how he got all patched up from the wound.
Speaker B:And so Dean's like, no, no, Bobby did it.
Speaker B:It's cool.
Speaker B:It's cool.
Speaker B:So Sam immediately, though, wants to go out and find Jake because he's like, that guy.
Speaker B:Fuck him.
Speaker B:I'm after him.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:Fuck Jay from Safe Farm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But it's kind of weird.
Speaker B:Like, usually, like, how it goes is like Dean's like, let's go, go, go, go, go.
Speaker B:You know, ready to go.
Speaker B:And then Sam's like, meh.
Speaker B:But this time it's kind of the other way around where Sam's like, let's go, we gotta get this.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, oh, we need to chill for a minute.
Speaker B:Let's chill, let's chill.
Speaker B:And this makes me sad because I'm like, oh.
Speaker B:Dean wants to chill because he doesn't want to go on a mission and risk their lives.
Speaker B:Because he wants to spend time with his brother because he knows he lands a year left.
Speaker B:And this is sad.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's an interesting take on that.
Speaker B:Yeah, he just wants to savor that he's back.
Speaker B:I think that's what happens.
Speaker B:That's how I read it at least.
Speaker B:So they have a shit ton of fast food and like garbage foods.
Speaker B:They're eating all that.
Speaker B:And Sam doesn't.
Speaker B:Sam withholds from Dean what Yellow Eyes showed him about mom and about like that whole background.
Speaker B:Like, Sam's not telling Dean everything now about that situation, which is a little odd.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And it's also really questioning how he's alive if.
Speaker B:If Yellow Eyes was so dead set, only one of them could survive.
Speaker B:Like, why are.
Speaker B:How are Jake and Sam both alive?
Speaker B:So Dean's just like, no, you need to recover.
Speaker B:It's totally fine.
Speaker B:Totally fine.
Speaker B:Kind of like, play it off.
Speaker B:Dean has to tell.
Speaker B:Dean has to tell.
Speaker B:Give Sam the bad news about Roadhouse and Ash.
Speaker B:But they still, at this point, don't know if Ellen's alive or not, which is sad.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm like Ash is dead and a bunch of other hunters that didn't matter in the storyline.
Speaker A:Like it was like Ash is dead.
Speaker A:And then a whole bunch of other people are dead too.
Speaker A:And all you're like, oh, so now.
Speaker B:The other problem too is that Sam's like, well we better go talk to Bobby so we can resolve this.
Speaker B:Because if shit's up and we need to go after Jake, we gotta talk to Bobby first.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, no, no, no, no, you should rest.
Speaker B:And now I'm like, oh, because Bobby gonna know something went down down if Sam suddenly alive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So this whole like I want to savor things with.
Speaker A:With my brother is more like probably jeans covering his ass.
Speaker A:That he did something he knows is real bad and now he has to pay for it.
Speaker B:I was just sharing that.
Speaker B:Sharing a hot take at the moment, you know, it happened.
Speaker B:So obviously Bobby is very surprised to see Sam alive and yeah, so.
Speaker B:And he knows that something's kind of like going on weird.
Speaker B:So Bobby.
Speaker B:And Bobby starts sharing with them what he's been finding is a lot of satanic omens all over this area in the Midwest, basically.
Speaker B:Except for this one spot in southern Wyoming which just seems really random.
Speaker B:And my part, my.
Speaker B:I was gonna make some shitty comment, which.
Speaker B:I know, I know Wyoming is a very beautiful state.
Speaker B:I'm not knocking Wyoming, but part of my head was like, there's nothing fucking there.
Speaker B:No, demons don't even want to go there.
Speaker B:But no offense to Wyoming, I'm sorry, I want to visit.
Speaker B:It looks beautiful.
Speaker B:But anyways, I still.
Speaker B:I still tickle myself.
Speaker B:So anyways, Sam's like, okay, let's go check this shit out.
Speaker B:Bobby and Dean have.
Speaker B:Do have one private moment because yeah,.
Speaker A:Bobby was like, oh, hey, I gotta get something out of the car.
Speaker A:Dean, like now like I think we need to have a private moment about the fact that you're both brother was dead and now he now dead was.
Speaker B:That Bobby calls him the fuck out, knows exactly what he did, asks what he.
Speaker B:What his deal was.
Speaker B:And Dean tells him he only has a year.
Speaker B:Bobby's fucking pissed, rightfully so.
Speaker B:And he calls him out like real hard.
Speaker B:Like what is it without you and your dad itching to go down in the pit and that.
Speaker B:Why do you have such a low opinion of yourself and.
Speaker B:And like this, like, you know, just.
Speaker B:It was a really good call out and very active.
Speaker B:Accurate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think we're also getting into a lot of real root of Dean's issues here because he's just like, I Wasn't supposed to be here like so.
Speaker B:And that goes back to his dad's deal.
Speaker B:Like the whole thing there too.
Speaker B:So it's like layers of.
Speaker B:Layers of things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So like this whole season where the past season two Dean is in the entire time felt guilty for being alive because John sacrificed himself so Dean could live.
Speaker A:And so this is pretty much like the how that all to me like this all comes full circle.
Speaker B:And I think in Dean's head this is all justified because he shouldn't be alive anyways is his take on it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:But I also think Bobby's right leg.
Speaker A:This is low self esteem shit talking here like you were.
Speaker B:It's some sad sex shit we talk about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like some like you know, pity party sad sex shit.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And that doesn't mean that grieving is easy or that he shouldn't be sad if his brother died.
Speaker B:It just means that balancing out instead of going for your own feels, think about other people in involved.
Speaker B:Even the ones that passed.
Speaker B:But whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, so they.
Speaker B:Dean basically begs Bobby not to tell Sam.
Speaker B:And that's kind of where it leaves off until they hear a noise.
Speaker B:What's that?
Speaker B:There's someone in the junkyard.
Speaker B:It's Ellen.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Yay, Team Ellen.
Speaker B:So Bobby feeds her holy water because he has to make sure she's not possessed, which is adorbs.
Speaker B:And then she wants whiskey, which is fair because she looks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She's like no, no.
Speaker A:But also sad that the only reason that she wasn't there was that she went to get pretzels.
Speaker B:That's really depressing.
Speaker B:Also though, I'm kind of like suspicious.
Speaker B:I feel like if somebody really wanted to fuck up Roadhouse they would have made sure she was there.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:At this point we also don't know.
Speaker A:We don't find out this episode.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker A:I don't know if we actually ever find out.
Speaker B:But it's an arson or accident.
Speaker A:We don't know how the Roadhouse blew up.
Speaker A:Like we just know the Roadhouse is gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know, if we think about it based on what Ash was saying, Ash was like, no, I found something really big.
Speaker A:And this is when Ellen's like, oh yeah.
Speaker A:Before this happened, you know, Ash told me to go look at the safe.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And she had something out of the safe.
Speaker B:And it's a map that she was able to get.
Speaker B:And it does is a map.
Speaker B:A part of Wyoming that has some markings on it.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:And it matches up kind of what Bobby was looking at.
Speaker B:It's got X's that show abandoned frontier churches that were built by none other than Samuel Colt, the demon killer.
Speaker A:Gun making Samuel Colt.
Speaker A:We're all time back together.
Speaker A:Oh, time back together.
Speaker A:And what happens when you put those five X's together, Diana?
Speaker A:What is it for?
Speaker B:They make a Devil's Trap.
Speaker A:Devil's Trap.
Speaker B:Word, word.
Speaker A:Say shout out to the podcast.
Speaker A:Thank you guys.
Speaker A:Like, I appreciate you.
Speaker A:Season two smash the like button.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's about 100 square miles, big devil's trap with like iron lines connecting them.
Speaker B:And it's basically demons are circling it and can't get in.
Speaker B:And there's an old cowboy cemetery in the middle because of course there fucking is.
Speaker A:Because why are you.
Speaker A:Wyoming.
Speaker B:Duh.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure, like, all Wyoming has.
Speaker A:Again, sorry, Wyoming, but I'm pretty sure all Wyoming has is a bunch of old cowboys cemeteries.
Speaker A:I think that's the entire thing.
Speaker A:It's like Yellowstone and then cowboy cemeteries.
Speaker B:I bet that the like.
Speaker B:I bet you get, like some really, really cool photos of old frontier churches in Wyoming.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:If you're in Wyoming, please take pictures.
Speaker B:Of your super rusty and just a beautiful countryside with nothing around.
Speaker B:And that's it.
Speaker A:And demons.
Speaker B:My, my.
Speaker B:I have cousins that live outside the Laramie and their pictures are beautiful.
Speaker B:Like, oh, it's our front yard today.
Speaker B:I'm like, you time.
Speaker B:I'm like, what?
Speaker B:That's your.
Speaker B:That's your front yard?
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker A:Yeah, but also a lot of time is covered in a bunch of snow.
Speaker A:Just remember that.
Speaker B:I don't like that part.
Speaker B:I'm out.
Speaker B:I'm out on that one day of snow.
Speaker B:Done.
Speaker B:That's all I got.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So they go back and forth and they're like, well, the demons can't get into this thing because of the Devil's Trap.
Speaker B:And they realize, what if the devil's trap is actually keeping something in instead of keeping the demons out?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that this.
Speaker B:This devil trap is so fucking strong that Bobby's like, yeah, you need like an A bomb to get into it.
Speaker B:There's no way a regular demon could get in.
Speaker B:So we cut to Jake.
Speaker B:Good old Jake.
Speaker A:Oh, stay firm, Jake.
Speaker A:All right, Stay front.
Speaker A:Jason Yee.
Speaker A:All right, they got Yee.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're at these train tracks which are part of the.
Speaker B:They are the iron lines between these five or whatever the.
Speaker B:Between the.
Speaker B:The frontier churches.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Basically like, Yellow Eyes is like, yeah, you gotta walk.
Speaker B:Walk like five, 50 miles in and open this crypt at the cemetery.
Speaker B:Here's the.
Speaker B:Here's the cult gun.
Speaker B:That's the only thing that can open it.
Speaker B:Have at it.
Speaker A:So we got the cult coming out.
Speaker A:Oh my God, the actual cult.
Speaker A:Like, we've never seen this since, you.
Speaker B:Know, John traded it to Yellow Eyes.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So this is the cold was back.
Speaker A:And also you want me to walk how many fucking miles?
Speaker B:I've done some long road marches in the fucking army, but 50 miles is pretty far.
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker A:I. I did, you know, last tough mudder was 10 miles and we walked out.
Speaker A:We didn't run because I'm an old woman and that took many, many hours.
Speaker A:It was a long time.
Speaker A:And I'm pretty sure, like, at least like, get him a horse or something.
Speaker A:Like, why we can't walk?
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I get it.
Speaker A:A car can't drive.
Speaker A:Of course the car can drive there.
Speaker A:Like we saw the map.
Speaker A:The map had shipment.
Speaker A:There's churches, there's everywhere.
Speaker A:Why can't you fucking drive?
Speaker B:Like, it's a long walk.
Speaker B:50 Miles will take a long time if you do the math.
Speaker B:Like an average, like marching pace for a military soldier is going to be about 15 to 17 minutes per mile.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Anyways, so, yeah, and.
Speaker B:And so good old Jake is kind of like, yeah, no, I don't really want to do this shit.
Speaker B:It's bullshit.
Speaker B:And so he basically yellows basically explains to him that you've got nothing else to fucking do.
Speaker B:Do.
Speaker B:Your life is basically over.
Speaker B:You disappeared from Afghanistan.
Speaker B:You can't go back to the army.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker B:What are you gonna do?
Speaker B:Go take a fucking factory job?
Speaker B:You're not gonna be able to support your family.
Speaker B:Your mom and your sister are fucked if you don't do this for me.
Speaker B:And he doesn't threaten to kill him if he doesn't do it.
Speaker B:But he threatens like, hey, we've got nothing else.
Speaker B:But at least if you do this, I'll take care of you and your family.
Speaker B:Which is true.
Speaker B:I'm like, that's kind of.
Speaker B:I thought about that.
Speaker B:Like, I'm the.
Speaker B:I'm the.
Speaker B:The practical asshole and the first one.
Speaker B:And I'm like, wait, so in the morning.
Speaker B:Because I did.
Speaker B:I did HR when I was in the National Guard and I did HR work.
Speaker B:You have to do accountability.
Speaker B:You have to know where everybody is at all times.
Speaker B:I'm like, they would have woken up next morning and this guy would have just been fucking gone.
Speaker B:Do you know which panic there would have been?
Speaker B:Like, this would have been a big fucking deal.
Speaker B:This Guy just disappeared.
Speaker B:And like, at some point you're like, oh, is he dead?
Speaker B:Is this going to cause, like a bombing?
Speaker B:Is this like, what the fuck is going to happen?
Speaker B:It's a big deal.
Speaker B:Just have a military soldier disappear from the base.
Speaker B:Boom.
Speaker B:Like that's a big deal.
Speaker A:Not base, full base.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But Afghanistan.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: an, obviously this was before: Speaker B:This was.
Speaker A:Yeah, but yeah, we still had people there.
Speaker A:But yeah, like.
Speaker B:Like there would have been, like.
Speaker B:Because there have been so many, like, people kidnapped.
Speaker B:There'd been people like hostages taken or.
Speaker B:And there have been people on awol and there have been people that had been, you know, that had converted and flipped sides.
Speaker B:Like it would have been a up deal for a dude to just disappear.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Some MP would have had the worst day ever.
Speaker A:Just like.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And some officers.
Speaker A:And also the poor person in HR having to do that fucking paperwork.
Speaker A:Like, somebody had to do so much paperwork.
Speaker A:A lot of paperwork.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:That's what I.
Speaker B:And that was stressing me out.
Speaker B:When they finally, like, finally they acknowledge that it's a big deal that he just disappeared from fucking base on active duty deployment to Afghanistan.
Speaker B:Like, thank you for noticing this.
Speaker B:But anyways, there you go.
Speaker B:Sorry, Diana's rant is done on that.
Speaker B:I'll move on now.
Speaker B:But anyway, so basically, Jake's family will be royalty in this new world that Yellow Eyes wants to create if he goes and does this shit.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So he does it because he's motivated by realizing he has nothing else and he cares about his family.
Speaker B:So he gets to the cemetery and when he gets there, Dean's already there.
Speaker B:Sam interrupt him.
Speaker B:Sam and Sam's there.
Speaker B:Bobby and Ellen are all there and they all have guns pulled on him.
Speaker B:And they're like, nope, not going to do it.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:And Jake really believed that Sam was dead and says at this point, he tells him, I cut your spinal cord.
Speaker B:A is my reaction.
Speaker B:But also like, oh, fuck.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:Now Sam's gonna know that something went down.
Speaker A:I would also like to read you my notes at this point, because you know this.
Speaker A:I watched the.
Speaker A:I watched these all these episodes many times.
Speaker A:I had to watch it through the commentary.
Speaker A:Like I said, I may have been drinking.
Speaker A:I may have been stoned.
Speaker A:So this is what my notes say.
Speaker A:Jake is like, like, yo, I cut through your spinal cord.
Speaker A:And Sam is like, what?
Speaker A:And everyone's like, nah, oh no.
Speaker A:Fucking.
Speaker A:Jake tells Ellen to put her gun to her head.
Speaker A:And being the bad that she is, she tells him to do it.
Speaker B:Oh, that Was very upsetting.
Speaker B:So, yeah, now Jake's got the fucking psychic shit where he tells people to do things, they do it.
Speaker B:He doesn't just have super strength now, which is a very quick learning curve.
Speaker A:I think he said he has some of it, but really like, his main thing is like, I can like lift up this humpy or whatever.
Speaker B:I thought he didn't.
Speaker B:I thought he only had the super strength.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:And then like, but, but they made a comment like Ava had talked about.
Speaker B:Like, it's amazing how fast your shit develops if you start focusing on it.
Speaker B:And that's like, oh, that's what he's like, yeah, that's what I've been doing.
Speaker B:So anyway, so yeah, they all drop their guns except for Ellen, who's got the one to her head.
Speaker B:And so he takes the cult and like, the cult is like the key to the crypt, which I thought was goofy.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, I was like, wamp, wamp, but whatever.
Speaker A:They're also very phallic.
Speaker A:We're gonna shove the cult in the hole.
Speaker A:So he jams the cult in the hole and he gets pumped full of.
Speaker B:Jams it real good.
Speaker A:Jams it.
Speaker A:Jams it real hard in there.
Speaker A:And then he gets pumped full of lead.
Speaker B:Yeah, he gets shot a lot.
Speaker B:Sam shoots the fucking shit out of him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam does not look good in this moment as he's shooting him.
Speaker A:Like it's.
Speaker A:It's not good.
Speaker B:This is very dark.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker A:But he's no longer Tantrum Sam.
Speaker A:This is Sam is there.
Speaker A:Sam is pissed, but not looking great.
Speaker A:And everyone's.
Speaker A:And everyone's also kind of concerned.
Speaker A:They're like, oh, this, this looks bad.
Speaker A:But you know, whatever.
Speaker A:We've already inserted the phallic thing into the hole and so it's going to start spinning and.
Speaker A:Oh no, it's hell.
Speaker A:It's a hell gate.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:We have hell gates.
Speaker A:Diana, you know what that talking.
Speaker B:Hellgate.
Speaker A:We're going to talk about hellgates?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Does that mean we're talking about Hellgates?
Speaker A:We're going to talk about lore.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're going to go to some lore here.
Speaker A:Woohoo.
Speaker A:And because this is, you know, our last.
Speaker A:Our last episode for season two.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:We're bringing it on back home because, you know, there's a lot of hell gates in the world.
Speaker A:I don't even knew that there's a lot of portals to hell, as I found out doing research.
Speaker A:But that's concerning.
Speaker A:Did you know there's one in Texas?
Speaker B:Well, I mean, I've heard of Hell's Gate, but that's just a pretty.
Speaker A:Well, there.
Speaker A:Well, there is Hell's Gate at Possum Kingdom Lake, right?
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's a.
Speaker A:That's a pretty place where the possums play.
Speaker A:And they're like Hell's Gate.
Speaker B:And Tony's right?
Speaker B:And Toady's, right.
Speaker B:Songs.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But no, no, no, there's actually a Gate to Hell.
Speaker A:I don't like that in Lubbock.
Speaker B:Of course it's in Lubbock.
Speaker A:It was also, like, there's nothing cool in public, guys.
Speaker A:Like, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Guns up.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah, I go to Texas Tech.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, there's.
Speaker A:There is nothing there.
Speaker A:But there is a Gate to Hell in Lubbock, Texas, so.
Speaker A:Have you been to Lubbock?
Speaker A:Your sister went there, right?
Speaker B:She did.
Speaker B:I've been once.
Speaker B:I take Lemon twice, actually.
Speaker B:Actually, twice.
Speaker B:Once for her graduation and once for, like, a social outing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Did you go to the cemetery, Liz?
Speaker B:You know, I didn't go to the cemetery.
Speaker A:Buddy Holly is buried in that cemetery.
Speaker A:A lot of people go to that cemetery.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's a cemetery in Lubbock where Buddy Holly is buried.
Speaker A:And that is what everybody will tell you about that cemetery, but they're also telling.
Speaker A:Tell you that behind the cemetery is a train trestle.
Speaker A:And so this train trestle, it's got some swamps on either side of it, and it's a gate to hell.
Speaker A:Just so you know, like.
Speaker A:Yeah, gonna love it.
Speaker A:Go to hell.
Speaker A:There are a lot of burials near Ms. Trestle.
Speaker A:So if you look at the map, you'll see it's like, it's not in the cemetery, but it's right behind it.
Speaker A:There are a lot of burials that have happened near there.
Speaker A:But so Billy Fisher, the director of the Lubbock Ghost Investigation Society, he said that the train trestle symbolizes a crossroad.
Speaker A:Oh, get back.
Speaker A:Crossroads between the physical world and the spirit realm of existence.
Speaker A:So at this train trestle, they have seen figures, apparitions, spiritual orbs, and even.
Speaker A:Yes, Chupacabras.
Speaker A:Yeah, they got chupacabras.
Speaker A:I told you.
Speaker A:Counted how many times I got Chupacabra was.
Speaker A:You're like, yeah.
Speaker A:So there during the day, like, this area, if you look at.
Speaker A:It's really nice.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of people go there to fish and to bike and, like, you know, do whatever people do in.
Speaker A:In the woods.
Speaker A:But at night, the atmosphere changes to become uncomfortable and frightening.
Speaker A:Uncomfortable.
Speaker A:It's Just uncomfortable.
Speaker A:So psychics do report the impression of something dark and sinister lurking the area, not welcoming the visitors or the psychic investigators.
Speaker A:And there is a secret door or a gate that takes you straight to hell.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I honestly could not find any evidence.
Speaker A:The actual like door or gate.
Speaker A:They're at the end of the trail leading to Hell's Gate quotes.
Speaker A:There's a pretty big mound of dirt and there's two fence posts there and there said that used to be a gate.
Speaker A:And it was said that this was a trail that captured spies and the Union army were hung.
Speaker A:There's also stories that says this is a common place to hang outlaws or cattle thieves.
Speaker A:Because you know how we feel about our cattle thieves in Texas.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And everyone says like this to put this gate was the last thing they saw before going to the tree that stands beyond there died.
Speaker A:And there are also others who say that a gallows was once there where there was this tree.
Speaker A:Now, there's a lot of stories about, like what happens here at Hell's Gate in.
Speaker A:In.
Speaker A:In Lubbock.
Speaker A:So some stories, including the one that was on the Travel Channel's Ghost Loop.
Speaker A:I watched that whole episode and can't get that back.
Speaker A:You know, I love my ghost hunter shows, but I also love them because they're so fucking awful in this world is digress.
Speaker A:Okay, so in this episode of Ghost Loop.
Speaker A:So in Ghost Loop, and I don't think it's on anymore.
Speaker A:I think it was on for just like a season or two.
Speaker A:It was on the Travel Channel.
Speaker A:And so the whole premise of it was that these investigators go and they try and like, rid places of.
Speaker A:Of ghosts that are haunting it because they're caught in a ghost loop, much like we will see in Supernatural.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we'll see like the loop of like you get caught in this.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This thing that you can't leave.
Speaker A:And in this episode, there was a woman who said that she had brought home a spirit from while she was ghost hunting at the cemetery and at Hell's Gate.
Speaker A:So they go into a whole bunch of things to try.
Speaker A:And according to the show, the know this the man in Black, which is not Johnny Cash, is very disappointing.
Speaker A:Buddy Holly.
Speaker A:Yeah, like.
Speaker A:Or Buddy Holly, maybe grave Buddy Holly was haunting it.
Speaker A:But apparently, like, so in Lubbock Cemetery, there's this giant angel.
Speaker A:And you are supposed to kiss this angel's feet before you leave.
Speaker A:Or the spirit attaches to you.
Speaker A:And so she didn't kiss angel's feet because.
Speaker A:Gross.
Speaker A:She didn't say it was gross.
Speaker A:And I'm like, yeah, that's disgusting.
Speaker A:But, but so she thinks this is why the spirit attached to her.
Speaker A:And now according to the investigators, the spirits wants to eat her children's souls also according to the investigators, the spirit also blew out their tire and like took it off the car on the way to town.
Speaker A:Not like they hit a pothole or anything anyhow.
Speaker A:So according to them, they're like, oh yeah, train robbers used to stop trains on this bridge and they would steal and murder people and throw them out of the train into, you know, know the, the river or whatever below into the gulch.
Speaker A:And there were a lot of train robberies there, but I don't know if that happened.
Speaker A:Some people also say this land was cursed by Native Americans.
Speaker A:As of course, we get back to our favorite story of.
Speaker A:Yeah, of course Native Americans curse lands.
Speaker A:That's what they do all the time.
Speaker A:They're like, this is shitty and I'm just going to curse it.
Speaker A: eory that they cursed this in: Speaker A: So In December of: Speaker A:But Black Horse really had an ulterior motive.
Speaker A:He was angry over hunters thinning out the buffalo herds and he had a plan to attack any people he saw hunted.
Speaker A:And so in that winter, buffalo hunter named Marshall Sewer comes along with a bunch of other.
Speaker A:I have skinners in here.
Speaker A:I guess it's like mule skinners.
Speaker A:I don't know the fuck that was, but I, I was kind of stoked I told you.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:And basically he runs out of rifle bullets.
Speaker A:Rifle shells can.
Speaker A:Rounds.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, we'll go with rounds.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But he's killed all these buffaloes and Black Horse saw him and it was like, oh no, motherfucker.
Speaker A:Like you just wait.
Speaker A:Oh no, you did not.
Speaker A:Oh no, you didn't.
Speaker A:And so they're like, hey, they are going, we're going to kill you.
Speaker A:So they murdered and double scalped him.
Speaker A:Which I'm not sure exactly what double scalping means.
Speaker A:I mean, you cut her microphone.
Speaker A:Oh no.
Speaker A:How do you cut somebody's hair head off more than once?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So then they Also cut open his stomach, and they place people's pieces of his rifle tripod in his wounds.
Speaker A:And later accounts also suggested that he may have been tortured.
Speaker A:But also, those accounts were for white people in the area, so.
Speaker A:So the story is that Sewell's torture ghost is said to roam the area.
Speaker A:And you'll.
Speaker A:You'll come across him, he'll be moaning.
Speaker A:He'll be bleeding.
Speaker A:And this became kind of like this teenage thing that, you know, everyone's like, go.
Speaker A:Go to hell's gate and try and find the ghost of Seoul.
Speaker A:And so also, over time, it changed.
Speaker A:Like, so the ghost would shoot you and then wrestle you to the ground and try and take your scalp in order to replace the one that he's lost.
Speaker A:I don't know if he double scalps.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:He tries to take all your scalps.
Speaker A:There's also another manifestation there known as the hunter.
Speaker A:And he is also.
Speaker A:He stalks people.
Speaker A:There's a lot of stalking that happens here.
Speaker A:So according to Fisher, he said this hunter is a very territorial spirit.
Speaker A:He doesn't seem to like people poking about in his domain.
Speaker A:He's there to ward anyone off who is up to no good.
Speaker A:So we've got the hunter.
Speaker A:We have the man in black, which is the one not Johnny Cash that they say is in the house.
Speaker A:There's also stories of that.
Speaker A:You can see a light swinging from side to side, and that can go off into the distance or come closer, depending on who's telling the story.
Speaker A:And they also refer to this guy as the rail man.
Speaker A:And the rail man is supposedly a man who works on the rails, and his wife was having an affair with the train conductor who thought it'd be nice to meet the rail man disappear, so he killed him.
Speaker A:And so he's got this light.
Speaker A:You get too close to it, it will drag you to hell.
Speaker A:So don't go to the real man's light.
Speaker A:It's not a good light.
Speaker A:So Fisher's wife, Anita, who is the president of the Lubbock Ghost Investigation Society.
Speaker A:So her husband's a director.
Speaker A:She is the president, though, so.
Speaker A:That's right, Madam President.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So she says that she's often seen spirits, including a woman who is dressed in vintage attire, and she sits on the.
Speaker A:On the trellis, and she was burned alive there.
Speaker A:And so there's also.
Speaker A:That's also unpleasant.
Speaker A:And Dita's husband said that, you know, there's black magic that could be part of this, because Lubbock does have a few Satanic groups, they used to go to Hell's Gate and do black magic rituals out there.
Speaker A:So that has kind of added to the mystery mystique.
Speaker A:And so in things I've seen where they talk about this, they always flash through these pictures of Satan murders.
Speaker A:But also like all those things were done during satanic panic.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So they're like somebody was killed.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're listening to Metallica, worshiping Satan and then, and then burned people and now they're haunting it.
Speaker A:So but clearly this is.
Speaker A:If you guys don't know, Lubbock is the, the panhandle of Texas.
Speaker A:It is very Bible belty.
Speaker A:So clearly everything that is black or evil is satanic.
Speaker A:So other ghosts in this area, they've also.
Speaker A:So there is, like I said, the man in black.
Speaker A:There's just some general moaning ghosts, some morning myrtles there.
Speaker A:People often see a red headed general in a Confederate uniform, which is a bullshit because we know redheads don't have souls.
Speaker A:So how they become ghosts.
Speaker A:They're also the ghosts of two wealthy brothers that were murdered off of Highway 287.
Speaker A:And they haunt this because they're buried in unmarked grave there.
Speaker A:Someone also said there's two young girls, one with fair hair and the other dark hair and they lurk in a foliage near an old loading dock.
Speaker A:And these girls are said to have been molested and killed nearby and they haunt the region to this day.
Speaker A:And there's also another story of another young woman who was hanged from the train trestle.
Speaker A:And she could be here crying through the night.
Speaker A:And there's.
Speaker A:If you look at the paranormal investigations, there's a lot of pictures of her like hanging from the.
Speaker A:Hanging from the trestle.
Speaker A:Trestle is a good word.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a great word.
Speaker A:So I mean there's, like I said, there is the angel, the cemetery.
Speaker A:Kiss her feet.
Speaker A:If you go, don't, because that's disgusting.
Speaker A:You're gonna kiss some bird shit.
Speaker A:But there's two recovery settings.
Speaker A: infamous UFO sightings in, in: Speaker A:It was investigated by the Air Force.
Speaker A:Like they did a whole thing and write pat about it.
Speaker A:So I think that's interesting, you know, if the idea of there's a portal.
Speaker A:And also everyone's like, we saw all these like, UFOs there.
Speaker A:I just think that's kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:And Buddy Holly's grave.
Speaker A:There's nothing else to do in Lubbock, right?
Speaker A:If I was in Lubbock, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna go look for some portals to hell.
Speaker A:And I think, is Lubbock so dry?
Speaker A:Okay, Well, you just said it, like, on a podcast.
Speaker A:You know, all our.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:All are dozen of list listeners.
Speaker A:That is epic.
Speaker A:And next time I see your mom, this will be reenacted.
Speaker A:I actually have no idea what song you're talking about.
Speaker A:No, I want to hear more.
Speaker A:Wait, how's it go?
Speaker A:No, I. I need to know.
Speaker A:I don't remember the song.
Speaker A:Diana, you have to sing more.
Speaker A:All right, all right.
Speaker A:Anyhow.
Speaker A:So that is a story of One of the.
Speaker A:One of.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:The story is of maybe one of the Hell's Gates in Texas.
Speaker A:Diana's looking at me because I said one.
Speaker A:I really want to get a Possum Kingdom Lake.
Speaker A:Even though, like, I know it's supposed to be really pretty, but also it's Possum Kingdom Lake.
Speaker A:Like, yeah.
Speaker A:Now, there was a day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The day I discovered that Possum Canaan Lake was a thing.
Speaker A:Diana was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I used to go there.
Speaker A:I'm like, possum Kingdom Lake.
Speaker A:And there's a Hell's Gate in there.
Speaker A:There's a place called Hell's Gate in the middle of.
Speaker A:The come.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:For a weekend.
Speaker A:I am very good at drinking beer on a boat.
Speaker A:And I can.
Speaker A:I love fishing.
Speaker A:So I really.
Speaker A:You know, we'll go.
Speaker A:We'll fish.
Speaker A:We'll get a Hell's Gate and then go to Lubbock and.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:All right, so last where we left off, Hell's.
Speaker A:This is not the worst CGI in this episode.
Speaker A:Like, this is pretty bad right here.
Speaker A:But also this.
Speaker A:The smoke snakes here.
Speaker A:Like, all I could think about are, you know, the whole.
Speaker A:Remember when you were a kid and, like, some of the fireworks that you were allowed to play with, like, the little pallets of the snake.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because those.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is, I'm sure, like, some terrible toxic thing.
Speaker A:Like, that can't be good.
Speaker A:Well, I know, but there were also one of the few things that I was allowed to light.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, okay.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, play with this.
Speaker A:Until my dad was like, I'm going to shoot rolling candles at you, because that's my father.
Speaker A:But that's what all these, like, little smoke snakes remind me of it just like little tablets, like, rolling up.
Speaker B:Sa.
Speaker A:You know, he says something really.
Speaker A:He's like, I couldn't.
Speaker A:I could.
Speaker A:He's like, I couldn't have done it without your pathetic self loathing, self destructive desire to sacrifice yourself for your family.
Speaker A:That's harsh.
Speaker A:Like, damn.
Speaker A:Like, that was fucked up.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fucked up.
Speaker A:It's John.
Speaker A:Well, and we did see like while he's talking, we saw this goat.
Speaker A:Like we saw a figure run by.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know if you caught that, but there was a figure that runs by.
Speaker A:You're not sure what it is.
Speaker A:And then we're just like, oh, it's John.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Yellow ass is dead.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:He did.
Speaker A:Thank God.
Speaker A:Thank satan.
Speaker A:Leg this.
Speaker A:And this is.
Speaker A:This is the worst CGI of the episode, by the way.
Speaker A:This is really fucking bad.
Speaker A:And obviously it's because Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I don't know if he was off on Walking Dead at this point.
Speaker A:I think this may have still been Grey's Anatomy, but.
Speaker A:So he is a busy actor, so they couldn't fit his schedule into this.
Speaker A:So they film.
Speaker A:I know, Shocking Hollywood.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But it's just so bad.
Speaker A:Like, it is like the worst green screen and like CGI that has like ever been born.
Speaker A:I know there's worse, but it's terrible.
Speaker A:It is awful.
Speaker A:My notes actually say, what the fuck is happening?
Speaker A:So we've got like, Yep.
Speaker A:Sam makes a really stupid smile and he's got his man tear comes out like, he's got a man tear.
Speaker A:Dean's just like covered in blood.
Speaker A:And they're just standing over this corpse of ye and they're just like, what the fuck has happened?
Speaker A:Yeah, Get in.
Speaker A:Well, you used to know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's so bad.
Speaker A:That's for a mommy.
Speaker A:So eventually.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Oh no.
Speaker A:F. It.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Hey, guys.
Speaker A:Hey, guys.
Speaker A:What you do?
Speaker A:Did you see all the smoke snakes?
Speaker A:The smoke snakes?
Speaker A:Just like.
Speaker A:There's a bunch of like, was it like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?
Speaker A:And it kind of looks like 5 to me, but cool.
Speaker A:Like hundreds.
Speaker A:Thousands.
Speaker A:I need to get trunk.
Speaker A:Yay, Team trunk.
Speaker A:So we have work to do.
Speaker A:And that is how.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Season two ends.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So to recap.
Speaker A:All right, so Sam has died.
Speaker A:He's come back from the grave.
Speaker A:Dean sold his soul.
Speaker A:We have a bunch of demons or something that just come out of a Hell's Gate.
Speaker A:Ashes, dead.
Speaker A:Ellen's alive.
Speaker A:We don't know where Joe is.
Speaker A:She's not.
Speaker A:She's not here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:John.
Speaker A:John has escaped.
Speaker A:He saw some light shit.
Speaker A:So we're assuming in place.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that leaves us going into season three with this.
Speaker A:Also the.
Speaker A:Do we know if what's.
Speaker A:What was brought back from Sam is really sad Sam?
Speaker A:That's where we're at at the end of season two.
Speaker A:So I, I guess, like the question for you, Diana, is we could talk about this as just the, the culmination of these two episodes, but really it's, you know, this is season two.
Speaker A:So what, what was your overall take?
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I think it's maybe because they explore a little bit more of, you know, just as vulnerability that is possibly there, but he does get to be a little whiny bitch.
Speaker A:I'm not a whiny bitch.
Speaker A:I don't like it, which is why I don't like Sam, which is why I'm team Bobby and also team Alan, you know, so.
Speaker A:So team Bobby, Team Allen, Team drunk.
Speaker A:Well, Yeah, I mean, I'm never gonna complain when they're short, shirtless, doing things or, or digging graves, but.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, like, so listening to like commentary and stuff like, you know, especially when Sarah's.
Speaker A:And they're.
Speaker A:And giving her.
Speaker A:Her thoughts on this.
Speaker A:But I'm not sure if the network really knew the amount of female fans that they were going to attract with it because, you know, this is.
Speaker A:It's not a really female oriented show.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:We've got a lot of violence, there's a lot of ghosts and like scary.
Speaker A:And granted, it was cw, so CW video is typically skewed towards a female audience, but I'm not sure they really were prepared.
Speaker A:And that's why you'll see a lot of things going through about whether or not they have love interests or not.
Speaker A:Because the female fans, girls, we know, we know who you are.
Speaker A:We're basically like, every time, like they fuck somebody or had a girlfriend, they're like, you're taking away my boyfriend.
Speaker A:But which, honestly.
Speaker A:Honestly.
Speaker A:But also from just a narrative standpoint, I like that because it's not just because I want to keep them to myself.
Speaker A:It's because I don't think that romance needs to fuel every single TV show that's out there.
Speaker A:So I like that we have these other things that are driving the story along beyond just some sexual tension or what, you know, whatever is happening, happening.
Speaker A:No, I, I have lived.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, I mean, yeah, I think it's, you know, so if you think about this in terms of characters, right, we've got our two main characters who really, you know, in terms of their emotional bond is not with a member that they are attracted to opposite sex, same sex, whatever.
Speaker A:But it really is.
Speaker A:It's about this emotional bond between family.
Speaker A:And so I think we're.
Speaker A:This is really trying driving home at the end of this.
Speaker A:Like, this is still about this relationship between a family and even the family is extended.
Speaker A:We've got Alan, we've got Bobby, who are, like, coming in and you killed off my mullet.
Speaker A:My mullet, honey.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:I know it, which is just the saddest thing ever.
Speaker A:I think I told you guys last time I finally saw a mullet in person in Austin, like, a couple weeks ago.
Speaker A:And I know it's.
Speaker A:Armadillo ice cream sandwich.
Speaker A:Armadillo ice cream sandwich.
Speaker A:That is my obsession right now.
Speaker A:Diana also ate fried.
Speaker A:Diana ate fried butter, guys.
Speaker A:She ate.
Speaker A:She ate fried butter.
Speaker A:That's disgusting.
Speaker A:That's so gross.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you only do it because.
Speaker A:I know, but, like, at home, are you ever going to be like, I'm going to fry me up some butter.
Speaker A:Okay, we're really digressing now.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right, thank you guys for hanging out for all this.
Speaker A:And season three will be coming to you next week.
Speaker A:Ah, we're not taking time off this time, so.
Speaker A:Because we totally.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I think that'll close out season two.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Mature start.
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