11:06 Our Little World
Join us as we talk about Season 11, Episode Six "Our Little World" where we just want Amara to grow up so we stop getting creeped out, and can you beat Diana in her quiz on the band The Darkness? What band's fans spit gum in Justin Hawkins mouth? Yum.
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On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, what advice would Crowley have gotten if he had read the right book?
Speaker A:Understanding your rebellious, timeless entity.
Speaker B:Lower her curfew and let the boys visit.
Speaker A:No handshaking or snack shaming.
Speaker B:And maybe just skip puberty altogether and grow the fuck up.
Speaker B:Let's do SAP podcast cast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we're going to talk about season 11, episode 6, Our Little World.
Speaker B:Our little world.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It's a little world.
Speaker B:I know it doesn't mean the little.
Speaker A:World well, I say my God all makes me think of.
Speaker A:I want to think.
Speaker A:I want to sing like a whole new world or a part of our world and I know it's not easy.
Speaker B:It's a small world.
Speaker A:Oh, there's that one too.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what the reference is.
Speaker A:In a minute, but yeah, yeah, no, I mean, my life's, you know, excited to see some cool bands with my friend Jay.
Speaker A:Isaiah Evans and the Boss Tweed had just had their album released this week, so gonna go support them and see Low Cut Connie and get some pool time in.
Speaker A:That's about it in my world.
Speaker A:Guess what else is in your world.
Speaker A:Do you know what's happening in your world, Liz?
Speaker B:It's Jared's birthday.
Speaker A:Well, on the day we're recording.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:It is Jared.
Speaker A:And guess who else's birthday is coming by the time our episode comes out.
Speaker B:Lizzie Borden.
Speaker A:Lizzie Borden's birthday.
Speaker A:And guess who else's birthday comes.
Speaker B:Some girl I went to middle school with.
Speaker A:Sh.
Speaker A:It's gonna be your birthday.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:That thing is happening.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I was listening to a podcast about Catherine the Great today, and she was 32 by the time she had her first kid.
Speaker B:Cute.
Speaker B:And so I just feel like I'm really far behind in life, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker A:But also I feel like lifespans and monarch.
Speaker A:Monarchistic, like, situations are a little different.
Speaker B:Fair to be fair, you know, that is a thing.
Speaker B:But yeah, I am not so old that, you know, say, I. I've learned that you can still find new ways and new places to injure yourself, which I didn't know was like, you know, you just.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That never stops happening.
Speaker B:And so I was.
Speaker B:I spent like some time climbing the hellish beast that is the silk thing that was just like a rope.
Speaker B:And then I was like, okay, let's do some conditioning on my round trapeze.
Speaker B:The Lyra.
Speaker B:So I'm on my round hoop, and I was doing something, and then I heard, like, you know when you crack your knuckles and you hear kind of like.
Speaker B:And it was just kind of.
Speaker B:But, like, where I heard that and felt it was like, at my rib cage.
Speaker B:And I didn't know that you had things there that make those noises.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But then, like, I got home and realized that that area, like, all around there was very sore.
Speaker B:I think it's just a muscular pool.
Speaker A:But I hope so.
Speaker A:There's a lot of cartilage there, too, right?
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:My nurse friend was like, go get an X ray.
Speaker B:And I'm like, no, I've injured my ribs before.
Speaker B:And I also know when you injure your ribs, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:It's like, yes, your ribs are injured.
Speaker A:That's what they say.
Speaker A:Yeah, Right?
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's kind of like when you injure a toe, it's like, yes, your toe is injured.
Speaker A:Good luck.
Speaker A:Take some ibuprofen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the back of, like, my arms are really sore from hanging on that fucking rope.
Speaker B:And so, like, there's a new place to be sore.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker B:Getting older is so much fun.
Speaker B:Happy birthday to me.
Speaker A:Well, apparently Elle magazine is officially saying that 40 is the new 30 or something.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They've got some story like that going on right now.
Speaker B:Yeah, Well, I passed 40 a while ago.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, conceptually, you're closer then.
Speaker A:That's the point.
Speaker A:But either way, well, I hope you have an awesome birthday.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:So, anyway, so that.
Speaker B:Yeah, that'll happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:So whether you want it to or.
Speaker B:Not or not, that day comes.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right, so this episode, though.
Speaker B:I told you I would give you the reference.
Speaker B:So Our Little World is the title of a song from into the woods, which is a Stephen Sondheim musical and a favorite of the writer of this episode, who is Robert Barrons.
Speaker B:And we last saw him last season doing Girls, Girls, Girls.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:And then the Executioner song and the Werther Project.
Speaker B:And this song, our Little World, is sung from the perspective of Rapunzel and her mother, who is a witch, and her daughter is locked away from the world in a tower.
Speaker B:So that's kind of, you know, I guess I can see what.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker A:All right, well, we open with two teen chicks hanging out, eaten snacks at a park at night.
Speaker A:And one of them, Goldie, really hates her mom because apparently her mom's kind of a bitch and judges her when she eats potato chips.
Speaker B:But she also sounds kind of awful.
Speaker A:But she lives off menthols and diet soda.
Speaker A:And I was kind of like, I felt a little attacked, at least in my previous life.
Speaker A:But I'm just teasing.
Speaker A:I didn't judge other people.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like you may have.
Speaker A:I may have lived off of menthols and ice Coke.
Speaker B:You lived off of menthols and Diet Coke, but you weren't like, telling your teenage daughter that you shouldn't eat.
Speaker B:Eat chips.
Speaker A:No, exactly.
Speaker B:Or giving your daughter the stink guy when she ate chips to be.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's rude.
Speaker B:It's so.
Speaker B:It's so rude.
Speaker A:So the.
Speaker A:Her friend, Goldie's friend has to leave for curfew.
Speaker A:And who shows up but the bad penny, Amara.
Speaker A:And she wants to be like Goldie, so she eats her soul.
Speaker B:And I think we, you know, so I think maybe it's just this, this typical.
Speaker B:This Amara, and maybe the next one too, but like the face sucking, it's just.
Speaker B:It's just disturbing.
Speaker B:Like this the way she is.
Speaker B:The soul eating techniques are making me uncomfortable.
Speaker A:The way she grabs their faces, grabbed.
Speaker B:Your face and then, you know, there's a lot of eye rolling in the back of the head and just kind of like some moaning sounds like not.
Speaker B:Not into this.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It just makes me.
Speaker B:It just icks me out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not a fan.
Speaker A:But also, I didn't get.
Speaker A:Cause I'm like, wait, are we changing?
Speaker A:What's happening?
Speaker A:Is the lore changing?
Speaker A:Like, what's happening here?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Where she wants to be like Goldie and then that's.
Speaker A:She just wants.
Speaker A:No, she wants to be an.
Speaker B:She wanted to be a teenager, so she needed to power up more.
Speaker B:So by eating Goldie's soul, she got to skip some of her growing.
Speaker B:But I'm like, what part of puberty did you actually skip?
Speaker B:Right, because you went from like being a 12 year old to what is she now, like 16?
Speaker B:Like, I'm just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But I mean, so she's still like in the middle of some, like, cubes.
Speaker A:Yeah, she went from tween to teen.
Speaker A:That's they made clear is the change.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's.
Speaker B:I think I would have Skipped all of puberty.
Speaker B:But that's just me.
Speaker A:Can I just eat, like, four souls and go straight to 20s?
Speaker A:I mean, those are bad.
Speaker B:I mean, like, you should just keep going, right?
Speaker B:Why stop there?
Speaker B:So she goes back to Mr. Crowley's, and he has been waiting up for her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's not happy.
Speaker A:And he notices that she has age.
Speaker A:She is now teenage Amara.
Speaker A:And he says he's not really that.
Speaker B:Surprised by it either.
Speaker B:He just kind of, like, takes that as, like, oh, now you are a teenager.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, like, knows that she's been sneaking out for her late night snacks, but that actions have consequences.
Speaker A:And so she's like, no, you told me I couldn't eat any more demons.
Speaker A:So now I'm going out and getting it myself because I am a growing girl.
Speaker A:Don't tell me what to do, dad.
Speaker A:And so he.
Speaker A:Crowley says it's gonna hurt him, too.
Speaker A:But he decides to ground her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he's trying to be this law and order father figure, and it's just not really working.
Speaker B:And even though he's like, I'm stronger than you are.
Speaker B:And she says it.
Speaker B:And she says, for now.
Speaker B:And if I was Crowley, I'd be like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:Maybe I'm taking the wrong approach here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we are in Fall River, Massachusetts, with Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:And they are leaving a house because they have been in.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:They're pretending to be agents.
Speaker A:They are investigating possible soulless cases to try to track down where Amara might be next.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But this is definitely where they were at.
Speaker A:Was not a case, so.
Speaker B:And why do they think it was a case?
Speaker B:They thought it was a case because they thought it's a psycho.
Speaker B:Killed a cat, but it was just a cat that took a nap in a dryer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is very sad.
Speaker A:That is very sad.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, it's time to get Cass off the bench.
Speaker A:We need his help to find Amara.
Speaker A:That's all there is to it here.
Speaker A:So Dean's like, fine, I'll call him.
Speaker A:Cassiel has taken his binge watching to another level.
Speaker A:So last time we knew, he was watching the Wire.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was watching the Wire.
Speaker B:Oranges and do the black.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Apparently now he is watching Jenny Jones show.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:It is a talk show with.
Speaker A:It's very.
Speaker A:It's very mori.
Speaker A:It is paternity test results.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Jenny Jones, infamously being the one that had, like, murder, like, spawned after her show and all sorts of fun stuff.
Speaker B:So he and Dean get into it, and Dean's just like, look, man, you need to think about, like, what you're binging on.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, you can't just, like, binge the good stuff, right?
Speaker B:And Dean's like, no, man.
Speaker B:You can't find happiness in the idiot box.
Speaker B:And I disagree, because I did have to pause Poker Face to watch this episode, but Dean is basically like, man, go touch grass.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:You need to get outside and get away from the tv.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:You didn't end up watching Righteous Stone, did you watch Righteous Gemstones?
Speaker B:I've watched most of it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:There's a.
Speaker A:In the last season, it's like, go outside, nerd.
Speaker A:That's all I could think of when.
Speaker A:Anyways, Uncle Baby Billy had a line there anyways.
Speaker A:But yes, he's like, you need to go outside, Cass.
Speaker A:You need to leave the bunker.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And in the meantime, our detective from the last episode has called Sam to let him know that Len is dead.
Speaker B:Poor Lynn.
Speaker B:Oh, nice, soulless Lynn.
Speaker B:He was handling it so well.
Speaker A:He really was.
Speaker A:So, at the bunker, Castiel is putting on his trench coat, and he is gonna leave the bunker.
Speaker A:He is ready.
Speaker A:And then as soon as he gets to the top of the stairs, he starts having flashbacks to when he was beating up Dean and he was killing Angels, and then he was getting beaten up by Dean.
Speaker A:It's all bad.
Speaker B:It felt bad.
Speaker B:And he just basically has an anxiety attack, and he's just like, nope, not going outside.
Speaker B:And I. I have had that.
Speaker B:That anxiety attack with you, Cass.
Speaker B:Like, sometimes you just turn around, you go back to the tv.
Speaker B:So now we go from there back to.
Speaker B:We're just gonna say his Crowley's for the moment.
Speaker B:And there the minion Jarvis is telling Crowley that they got one of them last night.
Speaker B:So now we know that Lynn was not just killed, he was killed by daemons.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Marco is out on a mission to kill the soulless people that Amara eats.
Speaker A:So because those he does, Crowley can't have Amara leaving empty candy wrappers around for people to track them by.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I like the idea of calling them candy wrappers, but it's a good call.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:But, you know, specifically, he's afraid that someone's gonna tell, like, a hunter who ate their stuff soul.
Speaker B:And then, like, the darkness is gonna be up, and they're gonna know.
Speaker B:Everyone's gonna know what's going on, even though, like, things are already weird.
Speaker B:So then it's like, he's like, why?
Speaker B:Crowley's like, why is it so quiet?
Speaker A:And Jarvis is like, our ranks are a little thin because Amara ate everybody.
Speaker A:That's not good.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Not good.
Speaker A:And also, while we're at it, you should also know that our soul projections aren't great right now.
Speaker A:And Crowley's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Why is there not a guard outside Amara's room?
Speaker A:That more important.
Speaker A:And hey.
Speaker A:Is like, oh, I'm sure it was just a mix up.
Speaker A:And so Crowley's like, nope, you're the guard now.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:And leaves him.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So don't open your mouth to Crowley.
Speaker B:And then we go from there to what we assume was the prison and the warden.
Speaker B:Or is that the detective?
Speaker A:This is our detective is telling them that Len's death looks like an assassination.
Speaker A:It does not have the markings of a revenge killing.
Speaker B:Yes, but demons.
Speaker B:Dean smells farts or demon sulfur.
Speaker B:And so they're like, oh, this was a demon hit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as they're standing there, who gets arrested or who's being brought in to go to be held in a cell is Goldie.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And our detective friend is like, yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:She was just.
Speaker A:Goldie was just a normal kid this morning.
Speaker A:But then she snapped and tried to kill her mom with a frying pan.
Speaker A:Sam and Dean are like, that sounds very soulless.
Speaker A:Let's find out.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That seems suspicious.
Speaker B:So Cass has found solace in one of the few things that we can find solace in.
Speaker B:And that is a video of a dog skateboarding.
Speaker B:And no matter how sad you are, you can always rely on a video of a dog skateboarding.
Speaker A:Until you realize that it's being shared on the news.
Speaker A:Because now the news is going to follow immediately.
Speaker A:And then that's not what's going to give you solace.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:But we do have an anchor, woman, broadcast lady, who is going from dog story to sad story.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Only the news does not actually show this level of footage.
Speaker A:They always edit or stop it.
Speaker A:But they full show the full footage of somebody.
Speaker B:Depends on what country you're in.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And also the time.
Speaker B:Like, there was a time when the news was like, way more graphic than it or.
Speaker B:Yeah, but you know, it's extremely graphic and sad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They show a shooting take place, somebody get killed on the news.
Speaker A:And so Castiel catches his attention partially because it's sad, but then he rewinds because he's not.
Speaker A:So he knows he saw something.
Speaker A:And what did he see?
Speaker A:Fucking Metatron booger.
Speaker B:So Mata and I. I somehow like, mistyped that to meet Tron.
Speaker B:And I'm also okay with Metron.
Speaker B:And so we see that little.
Speaker B:And then we back to the prison and to Goldie cell.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because Goldie is demanding.
Speaker A:Or not.
Speaker A:She isn't demanding.
Speaker A:She's asking nicely for the detective to order her some pizza.
Speaker B:That's not how jail works, Goldie.
Speaker A:It's really not.
Speaker B:Maybe the small town jail.
Speaker B:This might be how that works.
Speaker B:But it's not the jeopardy who answers her call.
Speaker A:No, it's Marco.
Speaker A:And he's like, well, my boss's daughter is making a mess in town, and my job's to clean it up.
Speaker A:It's not personal.
Speaker A:And so he gets in her cell and he is about to stab her.
Speaker A:Except for the fact that he is trapped by.
Speaker A:So, yeah, he.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The boys come in and tell Goldie she did some good work.
Speaker B:And now we also know they know that Crowley has Amara.
Speaker B:Way to just figure that out now, Sherlock.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they take our.
Speaker A:They're gonna take Marco because that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker A:But they're leaving soulless Goldie in jail.
Speaker A:I guess there's not really any.
Speaker B:Once again.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They've just abandoned another person because that's what they do.
Speaker B:They did not leave her a plan of action for what to do now that you have no soul.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So they've got Marco in their motel and they want to question, slash torture him.
Speaker A:But they're basically.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm not gonna talk to you.
Speaker A:Except I'm definitely gonna talk to you a bunch and tell you about how.
Speaker A:How much she's been growing and how many demon souls she's been eating.
Speaker A:And she half of my friends.
Speaker A:But then Carly put on a diet and now she's sneaking out, but Crowley's trying to put his foot down.
Speaker A:But I'm not going to tell you.
Speaker B:Any actionable intelligence, nothing else, because you're just going to kill me anyways.
Speaker B:So Dean is just like, I guess we're in a stalemate.
Speaker B:So Bazam's like, no, wait, you know, we should exercise him and save his meat suit.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because Sam's very focused on them not killing people right now.
Speaker B:Which also, I just think should be your first order of business.
Speaker A:Yes, I agree.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's see what happens.
Speaker B:But also, I do get like.
Speaker B:It's finally like something really does make sense here.
Speaker B:And I mean, I guess I knew it, but he really.
Speaker B:So if you stab they.
Speaker B:Dead.
Speaker B:Dead is what the.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:This is what our canon is now.
Speaker B:So you stab with.
Speaker B:Stick with.
Speaker B:With them.
Speaker B:With a demon.
Speaker A:Demon blade or angel blade.
Speaker B:Dead.
Speaker A:Dead.
Speaker B:And if you exercise you smoke out so you not dead.
Speaker B:You're just out of that meat suit.
Speaker A:So then it was previously killed.
Speaker B:Unless that means.
Speaker B:But if that meat suit was previously dead, just the meat suit dies.
Speaker B:But you go off as a demon, are not dead.
Speaker B:You can go off and go possess somebody else.
Speaker B:Because that's what.
Speaker B:That is what Marco was saying.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Like, you shouldn't.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:He says, I'm not gonna go tell Crowley.
Speaker B:Which is how this kind of finally, like, I was like, okay, now I can see why you would say, like, killing the.
Speaker B:The demon and the person inside might be preferential if you're a dick.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, if you're willing to sacrifice a person just for the.
Speaker B:The greater good.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, it ends up.
Speaker A:This meat suit ain't savable because it's already been shot.
Speaker A:So there's.
Speaker A:So there's no meat suit to save.
Speaker A:So Marco has no leverage.
Speaker A:And so Marco is going to get killed.
Speaker B:And Dean seems too happy to stab him and gets these, like, serious eyes and, like.
Speaker B:Did the mark leave a mark?
Speaker B:What is.
Speaker B:You're still acting pretty psychotic.
Speaker A:A little bit, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker A:A little bit.
Speaker A:So we've got.
Speaker A:Sam has now put together a pretty good little map, though, of tips and locations because he was able to hack Marco's phone.
Speaker B:Well, I don't use this pretty good little map.
Speaker B:He's got, like, this map of Fall rivers, and he's got, like, pen.
Speaker B:And it's so we can see what they say in a minute.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So one for Goldie Amara, one for Bar Sydney, and the other one says Lizzie Borden's house.
Speaker B:And these are his, like, super, like.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:Look at these locations I found.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:The ones they had no idea about before this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Dean comes back after dumping the body, and he made a joke about dumping it at a playground, then ends up he dumped it at the hospital.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this has got to be so confusing for the coroner or medical examiner.
Speaker B:Whoever gets like this.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:He was shot when?
Speaker B:And it's how.
Speaker B:But he's not decomposed.
Speaker B:So what?
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so then Sam is like, oh, I hacked his phone.
Speaker B:And so we think he thinks by looking at this GPS that Crowley has had him tailing Amara.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But he wants to know why Sam's confused as to why Amar is even allowed to be, like, up on Earth at all.
Speaker A:And means, like, what's.
Speaker A:Because Crowley prefers being up on Earth.
Speaker A:He doesn't like it down in Hell.
Speaker A:What are you talking about?
Speaker A:Because Dean knows him.
Speaker B:Because as Sam reminds him, they had their summer of love.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam does have a notation of a point of interest, though I think.
Speaker B:That was on the map.
Speaker B:I think the map had the poi.
Speaker B:So, like, Dean looks inside his circle of yarn, and the circle of yarn shows him nothing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But next to the circle of yarn.
Speaker A:Is the poi, which is a decommissioned asylum.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:And so now we cut to what we realized this whole time that we thought was hell or something else is in fact on Earth.
Speaker B:And crowd.
Speaker B:Crowley's lair is an asylum.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Which, I mean, tracks.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker B:It's cool.
Speaker B:But it's like, oh.
Speaker B:Because, like, we've been actually here for a while.
Speaker B:We've been watching this for a couple.
Speaker B:Like, it's more than one season that we've been in this place.
Speaker B:But now we know this is the asylum.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And speaking of the asylum, Crowley in Amar is in Amara's room, and she.
Speaker B:Is looking at cat memes on a website called Addicted.
Speaker B:Some of them say, don't tell me to chillax, dude.
Speaker B:Another says, generic cat food.
Speaker B:Ain't nobody got time for that.
Speaker B:Another says, if I ever see you in those pants again, I will cut you.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:Crowley, is trying to explain his leaning into discipline to her and why he's doing it.
Speaker A:So he calls for Jarvis, who bring drags in a gagged mailman as kind of an offering to Amar.
Speaker A:Etc.
Speaker B:But in this, I'm going to give you an eating disorder.
Speaker B:Because he's just like, you can't just, like, eat whatever.
Speaker B:But, like, now eat whatever you want.
Speaker B:And then here's a snack.
Speaker B:And then she's a teenager, and she's like, I'm not hungry.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so Crowley closes the door and he's like, look, I have no idea what I'm doing, but you're growing up too fast, and it's scary.
Speaker B:So, yeah, he is monologuing about his lack of parenting skills to a timeless entity of darkness.
Speaker B:He was also inside the body of a teenage.
Speaker B:Teenage girl.
Speaker B:And she's just like, yeah, I know you suck.
Speaker B:And you only want me for my power.
Speaker B:And at some point, you're not gonna need me anymore.
Speaker B:Because I'm not just a teenage girl.
Speaker B:I'm also a timeless entity that's been around since, like, you can't pull, like, you can't me over Crowley.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is scary for him.
Speaker B:Literally been around since before the beginning of time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam and Dean are discussing their plan to go well or lack of plan, I guess, to go in to kill Amara.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:Doing what is this?
Speaker A:Loading ammo.
Speaker A:Because they're gonna go into the asylum to.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I'm just ready, you know, to get back at Crowley for.
Speaker B:What he did in Cedar Rapids and.
Speaker A:When he took Amara.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But Sam's like, we don't know anything about Amara.
Speaker B:And, like, including what can kill her, whether or not she can be killed.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, she's such a big threat that we have to go in there and hit her with everything we got.
Speaker B:But I also just see putting your standard weapons inside this duff that.
Speaker B:And I'm like, you're in a bunker full of magical resources.
Speaker B:Like, why are you not.
Speaker B:Like, you keep saying, going through these books is just about tangents, but you keep going through these books and saying there's nothing on Amara.
Speaker B:But I'm pretty sure there's probably something in how to build a big bomb.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:I think, well, Crowley is like, look, Amara, you know, we've got.
Speaker A:You know, I know you're gonna have tremendous power, but I have experience.
Speaker A:I put Lucifer in a cage.
Speaker A:I rose through the ranks, and I.
Speaker A:You know, maybe I have something to teach you.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe you don't need it.
Speaker A:But I do have something to offer.
Speaker A:And I want you to give me that chance.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:I want you.
Speaker A:If you can slow down, in exchange for your patience, I will offer you protection until you don't need anymore.
Speaker A:So he's going from, like, trying to diet it up to negotiate, but still.
Speaker B:Also trying to play this high level authority figure of, like, I have all this wisdom, and like, you, you are just this poor little girl.
Speaker B:You don't know nothing.
Speaker B:Like, you have not.
Speaker B:You're not a timeless entity.
Speaker B:But she's like, okay, fine.
Speaker B:Please get the fuck out of my room.
Speaker B:So we go from that to Metatron.
Speaker B:And I had to remind Dinah, Dinah, Diana, after watching Dogma, that Alan Rickman played Metatron in Dogma.
Speaker B:And of course, he was fantastic.
Speaker B:And I loved him.
Speaker B:As I'm like, so I don't just.
Speaker A:Hate Metatron, we just hate this version.
Speaker B:We just hate this Metatron.
Speaker B:I hate this because this Metatron is very excited that this dead dude is going to earn him money, and then he robs a corpse.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's not a corpse.
Speaker A:They're still alive.
Speaker A:And then he's like, too bad.
Speaker A:So sad.
Speaker A:I used to could have say, I used to could have saved you But I still wouldn't have is what he.
Speaker B:Says, which is extra.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he still takes his money and throws a wallet on him.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And he is, like, not that guy anymore.
Speaker B:But then Batman.
Speaker B:I mean, Cass shows up as.
Speaker A:I'm gonna save you.
Speaker B:And Cass found him the same way Mata has been finding things.
Speaker B:Things.
Speaker B:That's by scanning the police scanners.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they are.
Speaker A:So that's how, I guess Metatron's making money.
Speaker A:Is listening to police scanners and recording stuff.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:So Castiel tracked Metatron down that way after seeing him film that bit on the news.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, we'll get to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, go ahead.
Speaker A:Metatron's like.
Speaker A:Look, I. Yeah, I mean, selling footage of people dying is good business.
Speaker A:And also, I'm gonna sell this footage that I'm taking right now of you, Castiel, healing this guy, because Footage of an actual angel.
Speaker A:That's gonna be real money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so Cassiel does what we want to do and throws Meadows camera to the ground and breaks it.
Speaker B:And Meta protests that he had to steal and pawn so much to get that camera.
Speaker B:Camera.
Speaker B:But the police arrive, and they skedaddle.
Speaker A:Back at the asylum, the Salmon Dean have noticed that there's no guards around the perimeter.
Speaker B:Supersess just breeze into a gate, walking, and go up to the front door.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No guards at the door.
Speaker A:There's some sigils, but the only other thing there is just, like, a really simple padlock.
Speaker B:And he picks that.
Speaker B:And one.
Speaker B:We know that Crowley has lived in modern spaces before, so you think he would have at least put a, like, safe lock on this or something.
Speaker B:Also, I'm not sure what would be dreamier walking into the front door of the bunker or to, like, fight the asylum to find it, like, full of demons.
Speaker B:And I'm not sure if I would be, like, happy or sad that they were bureaucratic demons and this is, you know, what they find inside.
Speaker A:Yeah, because where Crowley is sitting in his throne room or whatever, getting reports about soul collections, specifically, it is the domestic soul.
Speaker A:Projections are being read to him, and.
Speaker B:Numbers in the Pacific Northwest have been down for the past three years, and they think it may be an unintended consequence of legalizing marijuana.
Speaker A:Some analysts think you're just too stoned.
Speaker B:As to trade your soul.
Speaker A:But he's not even paying attention or reading that.
Speaker A:Because he is reading why she fights.
Speaker A:Understanding your rebellious teen.
Speaker B:And with the subheading of find a solution, don't add to the problem.
Speaker B:And look, I will tell you, Crowley, what I should.
Speaker B:You know, someone should have told my dad, as having been a rebellious teenage girl.
Speaker B:All your daughter wants you to do is sit down and ask her what the is going on.
Speaker B:Just talk to you damn daughter.
Speaker B:Crowley and Amara probably be like, I am a timeless entity and I want to eat the world.
Speaker B:That's what I want to do.
Speaker B:Hi, Darkness.
Speaker B:Nice to meet you.
Speaker B:But no, instead, he keeps looking in self help books.
Speaker A:Well, Castiel and Metatron have stepped away from the alley where the cops are into an industrial building.
Speaker A:And Castiel is going to throw Metatron around, and he's like, I've been hiding.
Speaker A:I don't have any money.
Speaker A:I pull myself up by my own bootstraps.
Speaker A:And Castiel's like, you're preying on human tragedy.
Speaker A:This is not cool.
Speaker B:And he profanes vultures because he's like, you're feeding like a vulture on human tragedy.
Speaker B:And I'm sorry, vultures are rad.
Speaker B:And then Meta takes a very long time to saying what he's doing is in line with the modern version of literature, which is reality tv.
Speaker A:Yeah, I am reality.
Speaker A:Gross.
Speaker A:Anyways, I'm reality's author.
Speaker A:That's what he calls himself.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B: TV, but in a very, like, rose: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Castiel's like, what?
Speaker A:This is disgusting.
Speaker A:All right, let's get down to business.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Metatron's like, oh, I'm not going to tell you where the demon tablet is, guys.
Speaker A:Is like, too bad.
Speaker A:Guess what?
Speaker A:I already got your address from your job, broke into your apartment, looked under your mattress, found the demon tablet.
Speaker A:And, btw, you have bedbugs.
Speaker B:Yeah, when I have PTSD from bedbugs.
Speaker B:And there is a cut scene here.
Speaker B:So what Cass actually did was he stalked that broadcast woman and, like, approached her outside as she was getting into her car and creeped her out.
Speaker B:And then he fangirled on her, and he was like, you're like, I can't do what you do.
Speaker B:Like, you're tough one second, and then you're compassionate and tender the next.
Speaker B:And you move so seamlessly from one to the other.
Speaker B:And then to do that in front of millions.
Speaker B:And then the broadcaster, she's like, honey, these days, try hundreds.
Speaker B:But Cass is like, well, I think you're an artist, and you put yourself out there each and every night.
Speaker B:These days I can barely even.
Speaker B:And then he gets really emotional and then apologizes for taking her time.
Speaker B:And then she's probably like, well, he's kind of hot and he's sad and so then she goes, wait, this guy who gave us the video, he's one of our freelance stringers.
Speaker B:Showed up out of the blue a few weeks back looking like a hobo with a bum fight video he shot on his cell phone.
Speaker B:So this is how disgusting.
Speaker B:Like, he's, like, even worse than you think, right?
Speaker B:And so they.
Speaker B:They bought that.
Speaker B:And then she said that he keeps go showing up with better and better stuff, and she doesn't know how he's getting it.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God, he's listening to Police Scanner.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So Cass asks Metatron.
Speaker B:He's just like, like, what do you know about the Darkness?
Speaker B:And Meta is like, the band.
Speaker B:And now we're gonna ask Diana what she knows about the band the Darkness, because this is a pop quiz.
Speaker A:He did trick me.
Speaker B:So just some questions about the band the Darkness.
Speaker B:As we've been.
Speaker B:We've had songs stuck in our head since.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So your first question, and this is multiple choice.
Speaker B:Where are the Darkness from?
Speaker B:Are they from, A, the Jersey shore, B, the British shore, C, the Australian shore, or D, the Italian shore?
Speaker B:I think it's C. It is actually B, the British.
Speaker B:They are from Lowestoft, which is somewhere outside of Suffolk, an eastern British seaside town.
Speaker B:All right, number two, the lead singer.
Speaker B:And Justin and Dan.
Speaker B:Lead singer Justin and guitar player Dan met each other how?
Speaker B:A, Justin is Dan's older brother.
Speaker B:B, they met on a dating app, C, they met on Craigslist.
Speaker B:Or D, Dan is Justin's older brother.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with D. This.
Speaker B:A, Justin is the eldest of the brother.
Speaker B:He is older by like, a year and a half.
Speaker B:But it's Justin older than me?
Speaker B:Yes, he is someone's older than me.
Speaker B: He was born in: Speaker B:All right, so you can guess what year I was born, but it was after that.
Speaker B:So Justin would claim an advertisement for what brand helped pay for their first album.
Speaker B:Is it A, eBay, B, McDonald's, C, IKEA, or D, Abercrombie and Fitch?
Speaker B:McDonald's IKEA.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's a very weird video that he wrote the music for that's to the least better.
Speaker B:So number five, their mega hit was on which of their first albums, chronologically, their first, second, third, or fourth?
Speaker A:Second.
Speaker B:Actually, on their debut album.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker A:That's rare.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:It is rare.
Speaker B:It was the third single that was released least, and he says they don't mind playing it because they feel like, really, you know, impressed that.
Speaker B:So the last question, which will lead into a small story.
Speaker B: There was tension on their: Speaker B:Was it Corn, Slipknot, Disturbed or Ozzy Osborne?
Speaker A:Ozzy.
Speaker B:No, that would be hilarious.
Speaker B:Is that with Sharon's fans who went after Iron Maiden?
Speaker B:And if they were like.
Speaker B:They were just like Ozzy Osbourne fans running around throwing at other bands, that would be hysterical.
Speaker B:But it was actually Disturbed.
Speaker B:So the draw.
Speaker A:Weird lineup choice, though.
Speaker A:But anyways, go ahead.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: So in: Speaker B: tal Edge magazine for its May: Speaker B:And that's unfortunately what the world wants.
Speaker B:The world wants rock bands to be idiots.
Speaker B:I heard of late.
Speaker B:They have decided to start slinging shit in our direction that we are an example of.
Speaker B:What are the bands?
Speaker B:They're completely against that.
Speaker B:To them, we symbolize this whole wave of new metal, but near its death.
Speaker B:Are you kidding me?
Speaker B:The irony is that they opened up for us in London at Brixton Academy, and here they are talking about us.
Speaker B:I like the single.
Speaker B:I have nothing against the song.
Speaker B:I can't argue that it's a catchy goddamn song.
Speaker B:But it's not metal.
Speaker B:It's pop rock.
Speaker B:How dare they call themselves metal.
Speaker B:That's not metal.
Speaker B:It'll never be metal.
Speaker B:They're a great band.
Speaker B:I have nothing against them.
Speaker B:But don't claim that you're something that you're not.
Speaker B:Don't claim to be metal.
Speaker B:Don't claim authentic.
Speaker B:And we're not.
Speaker B:Fuck you.
Speaker B:Who the hell do you think you are?
Speaker B:You consider yourselves an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker A:Right now with this monologue.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker B:And you conduct yourselves like clowns.
Speaker B:And I enjoy laughing because it's funny.
Speaker B:Even though the crowd was booing them to high hell, they were ready to lynch them.
Speaker B:We're not looking to pick fights with anybody.
Speaker B:We respect everybody.
Speaker B:We don't talk about anybody.
Speaker B:Which I'd like to refer you to the previous paragraphs.
Speaker B:You just said, Mr.
Speaker A:Drink, I think I'm on a roller coaster with them.
Speaker A:I'm like, what?
Speaker A:Like, no, no offense to anybody, but those guys, but really, we really.
Speaker B:I would never talk about.
Speaker B:You're not metal.
Speaker B:I would never talk about anybody.
Speaker B:They're a great band.
Speaker B: So in: Speaker B: That was: Speaker B: ind of this back and forth in: Speaker B: So: Speaker B:Justin Hawkins, the lead singer for For Darkness, recounts the incident saying, when things like that happened, if a band is supporting my band and that our crowd is not very nice to them, I was always going to apologize.
Speaker B:And that didn't happen with Disturbed.
Speaker B:I think it actually had the opposite effect.
Speaker B:And they were angry with us, but not my problem.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So that was followed by Draymond posting on Twitter because this is.
Speaker B:So that was on Justin Hawkins YouTube.
Speaker B: on Twitter because now we're: Speaker B:So he goes, hey, at Justin Hawkins of at the Darkness.
Speaker B:Sorry you feel that way.
Speaker B:There's a lot of things I regret saying in the past, and this is one of them.
Speaker B:It's been 20 years.
Speaker B:I think we're both old enough to have a pint at some point and laugh about it.
Speaker B:A few hours later, Hawkins responded, this is awesome.
Speaker B:I don't drink anymore, but I'll take a non alcoholic beer.
Speaker B:He did famously have a lot of drug and I alcohol problems.
Speaker B:He went to rehab for cocaine and boost.
Speaker B:Then he said Thanks@David.
Speaker B:Mr. Draymond, so cool that you reached out.
Speaker B:Smiley face.
Speaker B:Then Ms. Draymond posted back, we're both survivors of this industry.
Speaker B:I'm sure we both have stories to tell.
Speaker B:Let's figure out we were both in the same place, same time.
Speaker B:Make it happen.
Speaker B:Hawkage applied.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker B:I'm all.
Speaker B:Just slid into DMS on Instagram.
Speaker B:Smiley face.
Speaker B:And that is how the horrific feud between Disturbed and the Darkness ended.
Speaker B:But also based on what you just said, I'm gonna ask you one last question.
Speaker B:Is Justin Hawkins a vegan?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's such a vegan.
Speaker B:You just.
Speaker A:You'll have an on.
Speaker B:Yeah, probably based on what I just said.
Speaker B:You should have known.
Speaker B:But so anyways, now.
Speaker B:Now we know more, a little bit more about the Darkness.
Speaker A:The Dark.
Speaker B:The Darkness.
Speaker B:So going back to where we were, Metatron is telling some stories about God getting drunk.
Speaker B:And I'm like, what the does God get drunk on but God getting drunk and riding late at night.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And kind of letting some things slip.
Speaker A:But Metatron doesn't have to tell cast anything because I'm a little.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, I could crush you like a bug.
Speaker B:I'm like, crush it, Crescent.
Speaker A:And Metron's like, you could, but you won't because you're a wuss.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:After he uses a gay slur.
Speaker B:And then he's like, tells.
Speaker B:Tries to tell Cass that Cass is paralyzed by trauma and fear so much that he can't even hit him.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna punch you in the face a bunch.
Speaker B:It's so satisfying.
Speaker A:It's not fair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we've got our minion Jarvis in the hall outside of Amara's room, and he hears Crowley's voice down the hallway.
Speaker A:So he is going to go investigate because he doesn't want to get in trouble.
Speaker A:Is that Crowley, though?
Speaker A:No, it is not.
Speaker A:It is Dean holding up his cell phone with a voicemail from their Summer of Love.
Speaker B:And in the voicemail, Crowley's like, I'm not.
Speaker B:Why do you think I've been paying your astronomical bar tabs for the last five weeks?
Speaker B:So you can sleep past noon with last night skank skinks?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so as Jarvis approaches Sam, tackles him and handcuffs him away because, of.
Speaker B:Course, he was hiding in the hallway.
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:And so we hear other demon voices coming.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, I got this.
Speaker A:You go get to get her.
Speaker A:So Dean goes to Amara's room, and Amara's like, I knew you would come.
Speaker A:It's like, she's very happy.
Speaker B:This is so.
Speaker B:This whole.
Speaker B:All of it is creepy, and it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:And then she's like, for what?
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, stop, stop, stop right now.
Speaker B:This is a Stop this relationship right now.
Speaker A:It's creepy, but he's got his knife.
Speaker A:And then Crowley shows up and flings Dean across the room, and he's got comments about how, like, he knew as a teenager.
Speaker B:Well, no, this is actually.
Speaker B:This line is both creepy and also really good because he says, my girls growing up should have known it wouldn't be long before the boys came sniffing around.
Speaker B:So by calling him the boys and putting the boys in this, then we had the reference.
Speaker B:So that's why it was both you and.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:Yeah, I went.
Speaker A:I went more ooh on that one.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I know, but it was the boys reference that wins.
Speaker B:That wins you back.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So Dean's like, I'm gonna try again.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he gets pinned to the wall.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And he's like, what do you.
Speaker A:What are you talking about, Carly?
Speaker A:You think you can control her?
Speaker A:Carla's like, look, I'm helping her learn her potential.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Anyways.
Speaker A:But he says Crowley's gonna monologue about how he couldn't kill Dean before he just.
Speaker A:Because many chances.
Speaker A:The bromance.
Speaker A:Bromance.
Speaker A:But today, he's gonna kill him.
Speaker A:He's ready.
Speaker A:Crowley is ready.
Speaker A:He's officially ready to kill Dean.
Speaker B:It's gonna happen.
Speaker B:Crowley's gonna kill Dean Winchester today.
Speaker A:And then Amara bonks him on the head.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then she's like, oh, by the way, so gross.
Speaker A:She breaks his arm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She uses her mind powers to twist the knife out of his hand.
Speaker B:And then she breaks his hand with her mind.
Speaker B:And then she flings him across the wall.
Speaker B:And now we really start a true, like, back and forth, and.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:What do you know is what Cass is yelling as he's flinging meta around.
Speaker B:Around.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam's fighting demons in the hall.
Speaker A:And Metatron taunts Castiel and won't answer him.
Speaker A:And Amara is telling Crowley that he was supposed to protect her.
Speaker A:That was the deal they made just hours ago.
Speaker A:But she's already been assaulted in her own room, so.
Speaker A:So she doesn't need Crowley.
Speaker B:Yes, clearly.
Speaker B:Like, look at her.
Speaker B:Like, you know, she's like.
Speaker B:She doesn't need his protection, and she is.
Speaker B:Or his captivity.
Speaker B:And she's just done.
Speaker B:She's done.
Speaker A:Sam is struggling, though, getting.
Speaker A:Trying to kill these two demons in the hall.
Speaker A:One of them, like, really has, like, him choked out.
Speaker A:It's not good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so he's having, like, this one man fight against them, but then you see him try and cuff one of them, and you're like, what are you.
Speaker B:Dude, what are you doing?
Speaker B:And then the.
Speaker B:One of the demons is like, dude.
Speaker A:What are you doing?
Speaker A:He's like, what is this no kill policy you've got going on?
Speaker A:And so we, as the viewer are realizing that, oh, the same.
Speaker A:Sam is now, like, so focused on trying not to kill, which I get.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:You know, obviously, we're in support of this.
Speaker A:However, it's at the risk of his own life.
Speaker B:And the choice that he's making is by going with handcuffs in the middle of a fight, which is just not a good strategy.
Speaker B:It's just very hard to handcuff people with when they're not.
Speaker A:When they're actively fighting you.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so also, like, I guess he is making multiple of these handcuffs now.
Speaker B:Like, I think he's just, like.
Speaker B:He came prepared, tired.
Speaker A:He's got, like, a.
Speaker A:Like, a bag.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:So can't you just do, like, put these symbols on a zip tie?
Speaker A:That's what I was wondering.
Speaker B:Because I think that would be a much more efficient way of doing it.
Speaker B:So come by our new line of demon zip ties.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We'll think of a fun name for them later.
Speaker B:So, okay, so we've got this weird fight with Sam, then.
Speaker B:Oh, this demon's also like.
Speaker B:I think my solution is I'm going to choke Sam Winchester's giant neck.
Speaker A:Neck.
Speaker B:Once I figure out how to get my hands around this giant neck, which is really hard because it's a giant neck.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's punching me while this is happening, but yes.
Speaker A:And Metatron's just still taunting Castiel, by the way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's getting to be a bit much, too.
Speaker B:Like, it's like.
Speaker A:It's a little.
Speaker B:You're taking it too far.
Speaker B:See him starting to lose consciousness from the.
Speaker B:The hands around his giant neck.
Speaker A:So he finally stabs this demon that's killing him.
Speaker A:So that's good.
Speaker B:And he's really right.
Speaker B:And so we're all like, okay, so he did have this blade.
Speaker B:The whole time, he was just choosing not to use it?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's cuffed two out of the three demons.
Speaker A:He had to kill one of them, and he's happy with those numbers.
Speaker A:So he goes and tries to break into Amara's room to join Dean, but Amara is like, I don't know.
Speaker A:Amara's locked the door.
Speaker A:Amara's like, by the way, I'm gonna spare you, Crowley, if you promise me that Dean gets safe passage out of this building.
Speaker B:Like, what?
Speaker B:Okay, so she's making that choice.
Speaker B:And she's also.
Speaker B:She's been using her powers to, like, pen Dean, too.
Speaker B:And then she, like, squeezed.
Speaker B:There's more throat squeezing that's going on, but this is with her mind, so really good.
Speaker B:Acting on Shepherd's part of the.
Speaker B:I think there's been a lot of this throwing acting, but also the.
Speaker B:They're choking me.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:You're not actually, like, oh, I want pain.
Speaker A:Like, oh, something is squeezing me inside, and I don't know what.
Speaker B:I thought he did a good job of that.
Speaker B:And then she's like, I'm a teenager.
Speaker B:Get out of my room.
Speaker A:But then Dean picks up the knife, and she's like, you won't.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:Oh, but also, Sam is having hallucina backs while this is happening, so he's, like, seeing.
Speaker B:So that's going on.
Speaker B:And then Metatron is like, now he's begging Cassie up for help, but then.
Speaker A:Also wants to die.
Speaker A:It's very chaotic.
Speaker A:This is all chaotic and bouncing around.
Speaker A:Super chaotic.
Speaker A:And finally.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Metatron is complaining of being a human and how the indignities just don't stop.
Speaker B:You've got to pay your rent.
Speaker B:You've got to keep your phone charged.
Speaker B:You've got hemorrhoids.
Speaker B:Like, there's just that.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:Being a human is very embarrassing.
Speaker B:And Cass is just like, no, you won't manipulate me.
Speaker B:Tell me about the Darkness.
Speaker A:And Amara is like, what is going on between us, Dean?
Speaker B:Yeah, this is.
Speaker B:I've now turned this creepy, bad idea town.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And maybe it's because Dean was the first thing she saw when she was freed.
Speaker A:And now he will always be her first exposure of his creation.
Speaker B:So uncomfortable.
Speaker B:And so Dean is right.
Speaker B:Representing both God's triumph and folly.
Speaker B:And there's no helping it.
Speaker B:She is just disgustingly fascinated.
Speaker B:Please stop this right now.
Speaker B:And I'm like, do I want to go back to Metatron?
Speaker B:Like, I'm just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is this better?
Speaker B:I. I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're there.
Speaker A:We have to listen to him talk, which is never fun.
Speaker A:And he's going to tell us about how the Bible thumpers heads are going to explode.
Speaker A:Because where they just want God to be this, like, singular, all powerful creator.
Speaker A:But what he did took work.
Speaker A:And it took a lot of sacrifice, too, to create the world.
Speaker A:That includes giving up his sister.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:So the Darkness is God's sister?
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker B:You have now learned one of the secrets about the Darkness.
Speaker B:The Darkness is God's sister.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, what now?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Amara tells Dean.
Speaker A:She's like, by the way, I gotta go.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go explore the world now and gotta taste it all and settle the score.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Here you go.
Speaker B:What she came to do.
Speaker B:So that's why she's here.
Speaker B:She is here to settle the world's oldest score.
Speaker B:Whatever the.
Speaker A:That means he doesn't know anything of this yet.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Dean doesn't know that she's God's sister yet.
Speaker B:So he's still like, why is this teenage girl hitting on me?
Speaker B:I don't understand.
Speaker A:Why can't I kill her?
Speaker B:I can't kill her because she's.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So let me look at this knife.
Speaker B:And then she's like, I told you.
Speaker B:And then Sam burst in.
Speaker B:And then he gets flown.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as Dean tries to advance on Amara, she flings him, too.
Speaker A:And then she's out.
Speaker B:She's out.
Speaker B:So, yeah, they're back to the bunker.
Speaker A:Back to the bunker.
Speaker A:So Sam, Dean and Cass are gonna talk.
Speaker A:Dean's all mad that Castiel Like, Metatron, go.
Speaker A:But Castiel's like, no, because if he makes a single move, all the angels are gonna go after him and they'll get him.
Speaker A:But also, he's just like a sad ass human now, so he's not really a threat.
Speaker B:And I put him in traction.
Speaker B:So can't you be happy that I almost beat a man to death?
Speaker B:Is knowing to how as he was also like, you had Amara.
Speaker B:Like, why did you let her get away, Dean?
Speaker A:And Sam's like, yeah, she's in the wind.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, it's God's sister and she overpowered me.
Speaker A:It's end of story.
Speaker B:So at least like, they have decided to share this knowledge.
Speaker B:Cass has shared the knowledge about the sister.
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker B:You have shared something you learned.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Instead of like sharing intel when you all are working on the same project.
Speaker A:Seems like a good idea.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So that happens.
Speaker B:And then there's a massive face acting.
Speaker B:And Dean brings them back to the point and he was just like.
Speaker B:I don't guess, like, God's like, decided to share any wisdom on this.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, huh?
Speaker A:No, Sam's like, I'm gonna go look at the lore now.
Speaker A:I better go figure out how to take her out.
Speaker B:Wait, Nate, is that like, after last week's we learned lore was banging?
Speaker B:Is this like, what's was going to look at the lower me?
Speaker B:So Sam is like, slunk off to masturbate and.
Speaker B:But instead of.
Speaker A:Instead of masturbating, he gets visions of a cage.
Speaker B:He gets some more hallucina backs and we see what he remembers.
Speaker B:And it's not great.
Speaker A:No, it's Cage in Hell.
Speaker B:It's the box.
Speaker B:Lucifer's box.
Speaker B:We'll bring that song back.
Speaker B:And so we've got a dick in a box.
Speaker B:And so we see that and then we go from that to a street.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And we get Urge overkills.
Speaker A:Girl, you'll be a woman soon.
Speaker A:Playing And Amara, teenage Amara, is just strolling along a busy city sidewalk looking at people that she's gonna eat later.
Speaker B:You look tasty.
Speaker B:And they're like.
Speaker B:Some of them are looking at her and they're like, why?
Speaker B:And like.
Speaker B:But she's no longer a child walking around by herself.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:No, this is.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker B:Is culturally acceptable for the teenage girl to be walking by herself in this busy city.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And we cut a little quick shot of Crowley being bummed out on his throne.
Speaker A:And we get a picture of Dean drinking, sitting at the bunker map.
Speaker B:In front of a fire.
Speaker B:And it's very broody.
Speaker B:And then that we go to Amara and her serial killer eyes.
Speaker A:She does have serial killer eyes.
Speaker B:And we end on the line of that song, which always made me hate that song.
Speaker B:Soon you'll need a man.
Speaker B:And I always wanted to punch that song when it said that.
Speaker B:And I also want to punch that song when you try to tell Amara that she'll need a man.
Speaker B:Because, again, timeless entity of darkness probably doesn't meet a man.
Speaker A:No, probably not, but.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's talk about some of the people, peoples that were in this, what we say is a very hard to watch episode, because it was fine.
Speaker C:Casting couch.
Speaker C:It's the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:So Tina Mara is played by Samantha Isler Eiler.
Speaker A:Anyways, she's been episodes of Grey's Anatomy, and then she was Cassie in the movie Breakup Season.
Speaker A:Our cop that brought Goldie in was played by Warren Abbott.
Speaker A:He's in actually a few episodes of Supernatural as different things, and he's been in episodes of Flash, Zoo, Wayward Pines, Eye Zombie, the Travelers, Nancy Drew, and Superman and Lois.
Speaker A:Goldie is played by Eva Day.
Speaker A:She's been in episodes of Izombie, Bates Motel, and Murder in a Small Town.
Speaker A:Jarvis is played by Jesse Reed.
Speaker A:It's been episodes of Smallville, Continuum, the flash, Bates Motel, iZombie, Travelers, the Good Doctor in Law and Order, he was in Rise of Planet of the Apes, this Means War, Godzilla, and he was in a handful of a few episodes of the Magicians as well.
Speaker A:Our dying man, Tommy Douglas, is actually not an actor.
Speaker A:Typically.
Speaker A:He's usually behind the camera as an operator.
Speaker A:A lot of drone work.
Speaker A:But also as a camera operator for Deadpool 2 and Sonic the Hedgehog movies.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:All right, so we are.
Speaker B:We've gotten.
Speaker B:So Amara's grown.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Amara can, like you said, can get away with walking around by herself now without making people nervous.
Speaker A:I mean, they'll make nervous, but, like, not people go, like, where.
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker A:Where are your parents?
Speaker A:They don't have to necessarily ask that.
Speaker B:Out of the case.
Speaker A:Yeah, I guess that's good and bad.
Speaker B:But some of them are so, like, why is this young lady's eyes rolling into the back of her head and she's walking down the street and looking at me.
Speaker B:She kind of creeps me out.
Speaker B:Know.
Speaker B:Which is what I would be saying as I looked at Amara walking down the street.
Speaker B:Like, I see the whites of that girl's eyes.
Speaker B:That's not Normal.
Speaker A:No, not at all.
Speaker A:Yeah, not supposed to happen.
Speaker A:And then, so I guess, like, the.
Speaker B:Big reveal, though, the big reveal of this episode is that so what?
Speaker B:Because we still honestly do not know anything about Amara.
Speaker B:And, you know, going by the lore of the show, it's that she is so old.
Speaker B:There's no lore.
Speaker B:But they keep looking for stuff on this.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:And so now they revealed at least some of this, that she is in fact, the.
Speaker B:How we would say, the Abrahamic God version.
Speaker B:His sister.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But we also don't know much about God.
Speaker A:I would just like to point that out because I have, like, a little bit of an inkling, because it's hard not to.
Speaker A:Is as a fan post series, you.
Speaker B:Don'T know who God is.
Speaker B:What I was hoping it's gonna be a.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:You're not gonna be surprised when you find out who God is.
Speaker A:Maybe some cons.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Anyways, spoiler alert.
Speaker B:We're not gonna spoil that.
Speaker B:Diana's gonna pretend like I'm gonna.
Speaker A:But I also.
Speaker A:I know at some point they're gonna have to as a storyline, and I don't know when that will happen or at all.
Speaker A:But at some point in the storyline, we're gonna get a reveal as fans of.
Speaker A:Of who God is and their role in all of this, or lack thereof.
Speaker A:And so I think that part's a little bit suspenseful.
Speaker A:It's kind of cool, kind of know, because, like, if you think about it, I mean, whether you're watching it at that time or now, you have no idea if or when there's going to be an appearance of God, because the implications been.
Speaker A:The angels haven't had seen God in a long time, and nobody really knows where God's been for a long.
Speaker A:For this whole series, basically.
Speaker B:And as someone who was watching in real time, like, we, like, there was during.
Speaker B: ad message for us, and it was: Speaker B:As Amara was showing, we had memes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, you know, so there was much discussion and debate over who God was.
Speaker B:And we all had an idea, and everyone's like, I think it is.
Speaker B:But they're like, are they gonna show it?
Speaker B:And every episode, you kind of got like this, like, little.
Speaker B:And you're so.
Speaker B:Especially with this.
Speaker B:As we're moving more and more about like, where is God?
Speaker B:Where is God?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And it's just like, oh, are we?
Speaker B:And so, yeah, there is this buildup and that.
Speaker B:That was going really good during this Season.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So they were building that.
Speaker B:I thought that suspense was really good at the time.
Speaker B:But also during here.
Speaker B:Right, Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, during the rewatch as well.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Bring on God.
Speaker B:Which is, you know, something we testified, so, you know, we have that up.
Speaker B:So Rowena's been absent for a little bit.
Speaker B:So, you know, where does she go?
Speaker B:You know, what's going on with the megachurch?
Speaker B:We don't know that's going on with that.
Speaker B:And Crowley is now.
Speaker B:Has been abandoned by his prodigy, who just was his prodigy for like a day, maybe five.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not very long.
Speaker A:Just a couple days.
Speaker A:And then there's enough time to go.
Speaker B:Through hell and eat a bunch of people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now he's got to worry about his ranks being lighter.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was an.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It was just.
Speaker A:The episode was fine, but we got some major intel from it, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, it was fine.
Speaker B:And you kept telling, you know, my Internet went out yesterday some minute due to many things.
Speaker B:And then I was in the middle of watching this episode when this happened, and I was like, oh, no, I have to stop watching it.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So I kind of didn't chase why my Internet was out for a while.
Speaker B:But it.
Speaker B:And the thing is, is, like, there's nothing.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, there is me.
Speaker B:I am very uncomfortable at the teenage Amara Dean situation.
Speaker B:Just from a prude standpoint.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not approved.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's very appropriateness.
Speaker A:Implication.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:We know again, she's not a young girl.
Speaker B:She's a timeless entity.
Speaker B:But that is just in this vessel.
Speaker B:But it's still this vessel that I'm looking at.
Speaker B:And so it's really makes.
Speaker B:Just icks me out.
Speaker B:And then there's also the.
Speaker B:Just the violence in general.
Speaker B:Like, I know, like, there was a demon joke about like, pacifism never winning, but the violence, like, of even just cast, like, cast now on the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:The violence to Metatron.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because he's a human being and he can't.
Speaker B:Like, we all hate Metatron.
Speaker B:And yes, the first, like the first punch, you're like, woohoo.
Speaker B:That's satisfying.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:But then.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's kind of.
Speaker B:Of kind of good.
Speaker B:And then it's like, oh, okay, now you're just.
Speaker B:This is just awful.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker A:And I'm just like punching in the face over and over again.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:I think it's just.
Speaker B:It just.
Speaker B:There was a lot of this episode just makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, and I'm kind of.
Speaker B:I'm ready for Amara to grow up.
Speaker B:Grow the up, Amara.
Speaker A:You know, be an adult and let's.
Speaker A:Let's go to adult things.
Speaker B:I know we all, like, say, girls want to grow up too fast and.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:Grow up a little faster.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's fun.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker B:All right, so on that note, grow the up, Amara.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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Speaker A:Going up to the spirit in the sky?
Speaker A:That's where I'm gonna go when I die?
Speaker A:When I die and they lay me to rest?
Speaker A:I'm gonna go to the place that.
